3.4 Update

[DemonParasite]

I don't understand why people in the homebrew scene complain about updates. As a company, wouldn't it be logical for Nintendo to make their system more secure? They're usually not specifically targeting harmless homebrew, but the the bugs and exploits that people use to install homebrew and such. It's not good if your system will allow anything to be installed on it, so they're just trying to fix it. If you're in the homebrew community, you shouldn't be updating in the first place, and should get used to it...

[Jassim]

theres no way u can see 3.4 wasnt targetting homebrew, 3.4 almost killed homebrew, and lets see what you get from 3.4.

removes twilight hack
removes dvdx
stops downgrading.

oh heres one part people withou homebrew MIGHT NOTICE, you actually get to use a usb keyboard in the mii channel, thats right a keyboard in the mii channel, now you dont ave to waste 5 seconds of your life typing someones name coz u know it like takes forever to type someones name.




and yh, people with homebrew ust need to get used to not updating and watingfor wiibrew to help them update the safe way

[powerofthebeast]

I don't understand why people in the homebrew scene complain about updates. As a company, wouldn't it be logical for Nintendo to make their system more secure? They're usually not specifically targeting harmless homebrew, but the the bugs and exploits that people use to install homebrew and such. It's not good if your system will allow anything to be installed on it, so they're just trying to fix it. If you're in the homebrew community, you shouldn't be updating in the first place, and should get used to it...

So your saying that we should stay in 3.3 until they find out a safe way of updating the wii to 3.4? :confused:

[DemonParasite]

I don't understand why people in the homebrew scene complain about updates. As a company, wouldn't it be logical for Nintendo to make their system more secure? They're usually not specifically targeting harmless homebrew, but the the bugs and exploits that people use to install homebrew and such. It's not good if your system will allow anything to be installed on it, so they're just trying to fix it. If you're in the homebrew community, you shouldn't be updating in the first place, and should get used to it...

So your saying that we should stay in 3.3 until they find out a safe way of updating the wii to 3.4? :confused:

No, we should stay in 3.2 for pretty much the whole time. That's how the PSP works.

Also, jassim, you're acting immature. Nintendo added the USB Keyboard into the Mii channel as a small add-on. It wasn't "bait" to get us to update, that's just stupid. It's a dull feature, but it's not the focus of the updated. A company will always improve the security of their system. Also, they're targeting homebrew because of the piracy it allows. It's hard to only block the pirated things, without destroying homebrew completely. If they don't, it would come back, obviously. Honestly, stop complaining about updated. Nintendo will never bait you with stupid things like a keyboard in the Mii channel, and you shouldn't be updating in the first place if you have homebrew.

P.S. The 3.4 or 3.3 update added in GREATLY improved SD reading and writing. WiiWare/VC games copy like 80% faster on the newer one.

[hetoan2]

Faster SD writing was not a ploy to get people to update. 3.4 however was. There is no way you can say that an update that small actually deserves its own update. nintendo just said that it updated the mii channel for noobs. Nintendo thought it would prevent homebrew for ever and one mistake was enough. they were wrong, but still the mii channel USB keyboard is not a reason to throw in 30 some IOS's modified without trucha bug... It was a ploy for 3.4 and 3.3v2. added SD support is good, but just like nintnedos other updates you can get it without risking your homebrew.

[Link]

I personally did try 3.4.. and I did try to copy large savegames with stop watches.. and frankly spoken.. the speed increase in statistic middle was about 5%.. that means one nip less of coffee if you copy a Brawl savegame.. oh wait you can't copy a Brawl savegame in 3.4!

So all in all.. they seemed to have optimized some of their SD code but it's still wondering why they aren't using public domain code which is allowed to be used and would already max out the speed.. it's a little threatening to see the current libfat can read SDHC and transfers files faster than the Wii menu.

Same goes for the problem child: AES.. if they would have taken the official public domain source code which may be used by everyone, the Trucha Bug wouldn't exist!

[DemonParasite]

Have you tried copying a VC/WiiWare game? Also, the main work was probably behind stopping homebrew, but they didn't want to release it, without a reason for updating to the non-homebrew enabled people. They made something quick, so that anyone without homebrew would know what the update was. It was just so they could make an update that people would recognize. I doubt Nintendo thought we would get rid of homebrew in exchange for a USB Keyboard in the Mii Channel. That's just a plain stupid idea.

[Jassim]

I don't understand why people in the homebrew scene complain about updates. As a company, wouldn't it be logical for Nintendo to make their system more secure? They're usually not specifically targeting harmless homebrew, but the the bugs and exploits that people use to install homebrew and such. It's not good if your system will allow anything to be installed on it, so they're just trying to fix it. If you're in the homebrew community, you shouldn't be updating in the first place, and should get used to it...

So your saying that we should stay in 3.3 until they find out a safe way of updating the wii to 3.4? :confused:

No, we should stay in 3.2 for pretty much the whole time. That's how the PSP works.

Also, jassim, you're acting immature. Nintendo added the USB Keyboard into the Mii channel as a small add-on. It wasn't "bait" to get us to update, that's just stupid. It's a dull feature, but it's not the focus of the updated. A company will always improve the security of their system. Also, they're targeting homebrew because of the piracy it allows. It's hard to only block the pirated things, without destroying homebrew completely. If they don't, it would come back, obviously. Honestly, stop complaining about updated. Nintendo will never bait you with stupid things like a keyboard in the Mii channel, and you shouldn't be updating in the first place if you have homebrew.

P.S. The 3.4 or 3.3 update added in GREATLY improved SD reading and writing. WiiWare/VC games copy like 80% faster on the newer one.

oh come on you know that 95% of the 3.4 update was purely to destroy homebrew

[hetoan2]

it was to destroy homebrew. no questions asked. the extra thing they threw in was a way for them to actually market it as an update without saying. Download this unneeded Update to destroy something you know nothing about.

Otherwise nobody would do it.

[Romaap]

I installed Wiibrew's shop channel updater but the mii channel update isn't even worth those 2 minutes of downloading and installing

[REDSOXROX]

I don't understand why people in the homebrew scene complain about updates. As a company, wouldn't it be logical for Nintendo to make their system more secure? They're usually not specifically targeting harmless homebrew, but the the bugs and exploits that people use to install homebrew and such. It's not good if your system will allow anything to be installed on it, so they're just trying to fix it. If you're in the homebrew community, you shouldn't be updating in the first place, and should get used to it...

So your saying that we should stay in 3.3 until they find out a safe way of updating the wii to 3.4? :confused:

No, we should stay in 3.2 for pretty much the whole time. That's how the PSP works.

Also, jassim, you're acting immature. Nintendo added the USB Keyboard into the Mii channel as a small add-on. It wasn't "bait" to get us to update, that's just stupid. It's a dull feature, but it's not the focus of the updated. A company will always improve the security of their system. Also, they're targeting homebrew because of the piracy it allows. It's hard to only block the pirated things, without destroying homebrew completely. If they don't, it would come back, obviously. Honestly, stop complaining about updated. Nintendo will never bait you with stupid things like a keyboard in the Mii channel, and you shouldn't be updating in the first place if you have homebrew.

P.S. The 3.4 or 3.3 update added in GREATLY improved SD reading and writing. WiiWare/VC games copy like 80% faster on the newer one.

@ SD card speed improved

is it really good?

I have several VC games and have to copy over all the time to make Wii memory space >.<

There anyway you can add fast SD and stay at 3.2?

I'll check myself later

[Jassim]

the dvdx thing is just ridikulous... its basically their denial of not adding a dvd player to the wii when they could have,

[hetoan2]

nintendo probably wants to sell their patch through the shop channel. so by deleting the free ones it increases the number of people that will buy nintendos

[DemonParasite]

Nintendo didn't add DVD support for a good reason. Just ask yourself if you have a DVD player. Almost everyone these days has one, and they're starting to die out in favor of Blue-Ray/HD-DVDs. It would be a pointless addition to the Wii, that would only make it cost more money to buy. If I want to watch a DVD, I put it in a DVD player and press "play". I don't switch my input hooks to the Wii, load it up, find the Wii Remote, click on a channel, after that loads, then watch it. Watching DVDs on the Wii is kind of pointless. Also, with DVDx, I've heard that the fan doesn't run while it's playing the DVDs.

[Jassim]

Nintendo didn't add DVD support for a good reason. Just ask yourself if you have a DVD player. Almost everyone these days has one, and they're starting to die out in favor of Blue-Ray/HD-DVDs. It would be a pointless addition to the Wii, that would only make it cost more money to buy. If I want to watch a DVD, I put it in a DVD player and press "play". I don't switch my input hooks to the Wii, load it up, find the Wii Remote, click on a channel, after that loads, then watch it. Watching DVDs on the Wii is kind of pointless. Also, with DVDx, I've heard that the fan doesn't run while it's playing the DVDs.

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wait wait...wth...lol...

wats it to nintendo if we wanna watch dvds on our wii?  ok they didnt add a dvd player we forgive them, but wth is their problem trying to stop us watching dvds?

also some people (like me) have their dvd players downstairs and often prefer watching a movie in their own room cuddled up in their bed.