System Menu 4.2 - DO NOT UPDATE!

Started by Link, September 29, 2009, 05:33:11 AM

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Videogamer555

If some piece of crap upgrade deletes my Homebrew Channel, I'll just use Twilight Hack to reinstall the Homebrew Channel.

Link

Quote from: Videogamer555 on October 04, 2009, 01:04:32 PM
If some piece of crap upgrade deletes my Homebrew Channel, I'll just use Twilight Hack to reinstall the Homebrew Channel.

FAIL!!!

Sorry to say that: the Twilight Hack is impossible since System Menu 4.0 - user Bannerbomb v2!

Jassim

imagine nintendo get so mad that they make 4.3 which stops you copying saves COMPLETELY and they refuse to let you connect to nintendo wifi on any game without updating (if thats possible)

do NOT pm me to request a code or if you have any problems with my code.
[spoiler]http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf[/spoiler]



Romaap

Quote from: Jassim on October 04, 2009, 06:36:01 PM
imagine nintendo get so mad that they make 4.3 which stops you copying saves COMPLETELY and they refuse to let you connect to nintendo wifi on any game without updating (if thats possible)
Nah, they won't do that.
They just block all channels except the disc channel :)

Link

Quote from: Jassim on October 04, 2009, 06:36:01 PM
imagine nintendo get so mad that they make 4.3 which stops you copying saves COMPLETELY and they refuse to let you connect to nintendo wifi on any game without updating (if thats possible)

That's not possible with current IOS based games.. the games run in a sandbox and they cannot see the system menu.. some IOS allow seeing more console details (like IOS16 for the rescue discs - or IOS30 for the system menus) just games do not use them yet.. in theory Nintendo could develop such a feature for new IOS.. even the shop channel DOES NOT know your system menu version! Nintendo just updates the shop to give non-knowing users the feeling the system would know its version!

Jassim

Quote from: Romaap on October 04, 2009, 07:36:35 PM
Quote from: Jassim on October 04, 2009, 06:36:01 PM
imagine nintendo get so mad that they make 4.3 which stops you copying saves COMPLETELY and they refuse to let you connect to nintendo wifi on any game without updating (if thats possible)
Nah, they won't do that.
They just block all channels except the disc channel :)

in wich case the hackers would find another workaround and nintendo will pull their hair out. :p
Quote from: Link on October 04, 2009, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: Jassim on October 04, 2009, 06:36:01 PM
imagine nintendo get so mad that they make 4.3 which stops you copying saves COMPLETELY and they refuse to let you connect to nintendo wifi on any game without updating (if thats possible)

That's not possible with current IOS based games.. the games run in a sandbox and they cannot see the system menu.. some IOS allow seeing more console details (like IOS16 for the rescue discs - or IOS30 for the system menus) just games do not use them yet.. in theory Nintendo could develop such a feature for new IOS.. even the shop channel DOES NOT know your system menu version! Nintendo just updates the shop to give non-knowing users the feeling the system would know its version!
yh i guess so, even if they somehow do find a way to do it i imagine fixing it will be as easy as fixing the shop channel.

do NOT pm me to request a code or if you have any problems with my code.
[spoiler]http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf[/spoiler]



Soul Silver Zach

I don't know if anyone has found this or not but, Gecko OS 1.07b is still on the Homebrew Browser...and it works! I haven't tested the Region Free feature yet but I will sometime...But the Codes still work like it did with 1.9.2 :)

Link

Quote from: Soul Silver Zach on October 05, 2009, 05:16:25 PM
I don't know if anyone has found this or not but, Gecko OS 1.07b is still on the Homebrew Browser...and it works! I haven't tested the Region Free feature yet but I will sometime...But the Codes still work like it did with 1.9.2 :)

Gecko 1.9 has introduces some new code types and fixes.. generally however, codes are compatible to each other. So as long as you have games which boot with Gecko OS 1.07b without actually getting 002 errors.. then 1.07b still works, yes!

h@ckR

Umm I have gecko 1.9.1 still(never updated). Would it work on the new Wii menu? I am just wondering.
Edit: Nevermind I saw Wiibrew, it says yes...

mdmwii

Quote from: Link on October 04, 2009, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: Jassim on October 04, 2009, 06:36:01 PM
imagine nintendo get so mad that they make 4.3 which stops you copying saves COMPLETELY and they refuse to let you connect to nintendo wifi on any game without updating (if thats possible)

That's not possible with current IOS based games.. the games run in a sandbox and they cannot see the system menu.. some IOS allow seeing more console details (like IOS16 for the rescue discs - or IOS30 for the system menus) just games do not use them yet.. in theory Nintendo could develop such a feature for new IOS.. even the shop channel DOES NOT know your system menu version! Nintendo just updates the shop to give non-knowing users the feeling the system would know its version!

When a game connects to WFC it sends some important datas like MAC address, serial number and other and it uses some sub-routine (IOS?) to get those datas. If they could manage to edit sub-routines to send more or slightly different datas (sub-routines not written inside the game but inside the wii) and they could manage to update their WFC servers then they could block not 4.2+ wiis. Am I wrong?

Link

Quote from: mdmwii on October 06, 2009, 05:39:36 AM
Quote from: Link on October 04, 2009, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: Jassim on October 04, 2009, 06:36:01 PM
imagine nintendo get so mad that they make 4.3 which stops you copying saves COMPLETELY and they refuse to let you connect to nintendo wifi on any game without updating (if thats possible)

That's not possible with current IOS based games.. the games run in a sandbox and they cannot see the system menu.. some IOS allow seeing more console details (like IOS16 for the rescue discs - or IOS30 for the system menus) just games do not use them yet.. in theory Nintendo could develop such a feature for new IOS.. even the shop channel DOES NOT know your system menu version! Nintendo just updates the shop to give non-knowing users the feeling the system would know its version!

When a game connects to WFC it sends some important datas like MAC address, serial number and other and it uses some sub-routine (IOS?) to get those datas. If they could manage to edit sub-routines to send more or slightly different datas (sub-routines not written inside the game but inside the wii) and they could manage to update their WFC servers then they could block not 4.2+ wiis. Am I wrong?

What they can do: they can update ALL IOS files.. and as the games (you are correct on that) send IOS versions to WFC, WFC will be able to check if you run an old IOS.. so they could technically create updates in future and update ALL IOS files alongside updates.. then they could do some detection.

Romaap

But then they would spend a lot of time and money for implementing that, and the hackers just 2 days for a bypass :)

sal

I am afraid i have done a update to 4.2 already. Now I cannot load Gecko OS 1.9.2 which allowed me to play Pal games on my Wii. I just bought new game and without Gecko i cannot load it.

I have managed to get homebrew back via the Hackmii installer v0.5 but even then Gecko will not load, just blank screen.

Does anybody know when this will be fixed

h@ckR

To last post: use the gecko 1.9.1. The link is in this topic and in Wiibrew. It works just fine for me.

Link

Gecko 1.9.2b should work on 4.2 again. The cIOS functionality of 1.9.2 is not working in 4.2, so 1.9.2b has it removed it!