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Sometimes, I can only link to another page. The update effects this time are critical, thus it is recommended NOT(!) to update at the current time.

http://wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.2

In case WiiBrew is down, the results of updating would be:

• Homebrew Channel for the first time will get uninstalled
• BootMii will get removed, it seems to rewrite boot2!
• cIOS will be overwritten!
• bannerbomb is fixed! Indiana pwns or Stack Smash (USA only) should work!
• WiiBrew says "deletes most homebrew" so I guess that also includes custom channels!

I guess that says everything. Thanks to TwilightErik!

What's to be hoped for: maybe someone (waninkoko probably won't as he left the scene) will write a system menu updater which installs the menu but leaves most homebrew on the disc. This is however based on the assumption that 4.2 removes stuff on install - if it does on every start.. then we're reaching Xbox 1 levels with modified menus!

What is the point of this upgrade by Nintendo is it just to block homebrew.They should concentrate on better games and better customer service not spending all this wasted time on trying to block homebrew.I love the homebrew channel especially living down here in Australia we get all our games last and the homebrew channel is a blessing as i can buy my games from the usa

I guess the biggest reason is to block piracy via soft loaders.. and well.. unfortunately piracy and homebrew are very close to each other on that one!

So this update actually uninstalls the homebrew channel then?.If i updated will i still be able to use my console i don't have a mod chip just the homebrew channel installed the only feature i use is gecko os on the homebrew channel.It says Please note that the removal of unauthorised content may lead to immediate or delayed inoperability of your console what do they  mean by that.

Just don't update

i have BootMii as an IOS.
will this cause a problem?

No, it will just be overwritten.. after the update, BootMii is gone.. it's gone!
The Homebrew Channel is gone.
All IOS are fixed.. so you can't install the Homebrew channel..

Just don't update if you want to use the Homebrew Channel.. that's about it!

Lazy me never updates his devices if unneccessary.
But I am shocked how much Big N fixes with one FW update  :o

In the update it says that their are new channels!

what they just did was extremely thick.

if your gonna make an update thatll kill homebrew, at least give us some upgrades e.g usb support.

whats the point of making an update that does  nothing but kill homebrew, why would that make us homebrewers be tempted to update?

oh well, their problem, not ours

I think the update's priority is to kill softmods, not homebrew.
And I think that most of the people who installed a softmod aren't "into the scene" that much, so they wont know that this update kills all homebrew.
It also makes it nearly impossible to install softmods (for now).

but i can still get the homebrew channel back if i do the 2 exploits (Indiana pwns, and Stack Smash) right?
and will Gecko 1.9.2 still work?

Thanks Romaap.
so i'll just have to wait for a HackMii installer update then?

On the Wiibrew page it mentions that the Shop Channel has been updated. Does that mean it can't be accessed without updating to 4.2?

I've been gone for awhile, but I have one question, in regard to BootMii as boot2 (don't remember exactly how it works)...

Since they update boot2 to 'boot2v4', BootMii will be overwritten for anyone who has it installed as boot2.  Since they did this, does it make it basically impossible for anyone to install BootMii as boot2 if they updated to 4.2, or does the exploit to install BootMii as boot2 exist in boot1, and therefore, Nintendo cannot patch it?

This is what I first thought of when I saw the 4.2 update log:

(http://nintendobros.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/brewtous.png?w=375&h=275)

ROFL ;D

no u can update the shop channel without up dating to 4.2 just go into the shop channel click on update ur shop channel

Hey, my friend just told me all his HomeBrew stuff disappeared when Nintendo sent the 4.2 Message... And he says he never updated to 4.2. You think they got Auto-Updates to work or maybe he updated without noticing?

Will their be a hack to get into the wii shop channel again as i can't access it without updating.Will someone be releasing an updater so you can access the wii shop channel.

What? :|
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/WiiSCU
Use WiiSCU to update the shop channel.

I have had a look on the hackmii website and this is what it says We are currently testing an updated version of the HackMii Installer, which will be able to reinstall the Homebrew Channel, DVDX and BootMii

On that same site, comex says a new Bannerbomb will also be coming out!
just wanted everyone to know that.

there are people who dont even do homebrew or have their wiis chipped who got a nice brick simply by updating thanks to nintendos new crappy boot2. nintendos just deleting them on their forums and pretending nothings happening

It's not the boot2 that is crappy, it's the used method to update it. It's far from nice if nintendo really deletes forum posts about bricks.


Anyways, Gecko OS needs an update. Gecko OS uses IOS249 if that's found, on 4.2 Wiis there's an IOS249, so Gecko OS crashes because of this. It's nothing critical, but to me it has to be fixed eventually.

Well I used that and it still shows I need to get an update to access the Shop Channel.

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Post Merge: September 30, 2009, 07:47:15 PM

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Ok, I found a solution for the Shop Channel for those interested. Go here: http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Wii_Shop_and_IOS61_installer and follow the directions under "4.2 Shop Channel."

nintendo  really dont think do they, they wanna go from A to B without even planning it properly.

mistake number 1: putting so much effort into making an update that officially kills ALL homebrew (almost, if not all) without even adding a new feature, e.g in 4.0 they added the sd menu which made lots of people turn away from homebrew and just update to get that cos they couldnt bare not having that. (most regretted it but it was clever to add that along with the homebrew killing) this time they added nothing, so erm... why update?(you cant always rely on annoying younger siblings, and even they arent that dumb [most of the time])

mistake number 2: faulty update, if their gonna rush into releasing an update asap, i bet they released this update like 2 days after the final thing was finished, they probably didnt even test or check over etc. good luck in court.

mistake number 3 is the worst: blocking people from using the shop channel if they dont update, thats just stupidity beyong belief. its basically telling everyone: sorry folks you cant buy from our shop channel without updating, but not to worry homebrewers cos if you really dont wanna update and still want vc/ww games then all you have to do is PIRATE THEM!! EASY EH!YOU DONT EVEN LOSE MONEY FOR IT, ITS COMPLETELY FREE or you could update without getting any extra features other than your homebrew channel removed while putting you nintendo wii on stake (dont worry the worst that can happen is if you brick it during the update, basically means you cant use it anymore, but its worth it cos then youll be able to buy from our shop channel) and access our shop channel. the choice is yours.

Gecko Os 1.9.2 will not load so you know

some good news and bad news(if you haven't already heard).

Good News: HackMii installerv0.5 is here

It has a new exploit to enable (un-)installation of all components on fully updated Wiis.
Also fixes hangs on some setups (they’re all related to retarded IOS patches).

also comes with the following(credit to HackMii blog and WiiBrew):

BootMii beta 4 (v1.1):

Properly write the keys to nand.bin.
This fixes the “NAND dump is from another Wii” issue on restoring beta 3 backups. If you don’t know how to fix those dumps, you have to backup the NAND again. Dumps from all other versions are not affected.

The Homebrew Channel v1.0.5:

Faster startup.

Prefer boot.elf over boot.dol when launching apps.

New shiny fonts, tweaked to the last subpixel.

Widescreen support.
If your Wii is set to 16:9 in the system menu options, HBC won’t strech the picture like it did on older versions. Unfortunately the fonts might look a little weird then, it really depends on the used display unit. Blame the lack of true widescreen support on the Wii for that.

Grid view.
Hit 2/Y while browsing applications to switch between the old and the new view. This shows 4 columns on 16:9 setups, 4:3 users only get 3.

Device hot-plugging.
You can remove and insert devices (front SD slot, USB mass storage, and SDGecko in both slots) at all times now without reloading HBC.
To change to another device, hit 1/X to bring up a simple option dialog.

Application sort order.
You can now choose how to sort the shown entries. Current options: either by the name or by the release date.
Note that for the latter sort order a valid release_date tag has to be present in the meta.xml file.
Again, hit 1/X for the options dialog to set this.

wiiload overhaul.
On-the-fly compression: Uploaded files are automatically compressed on PC side: This makes it way faster, especially on bigger files. ScummVM, anyone?
Improved USBGecko support: Faster uploads, and you don’t have to stop reading debug messages from the device while uploading files.
libftdi support: Because ftdi-sio fails, especially on OSX.
Note: Because of these improvements, older wiiload version and 3rd party upload clients are incompatible. Use the bundled v0.5, binaries and source code are included.
Basic application management.
To add apps: Just wiiload a ZIP archive, it will then get extracted to the active device. The ZIP file must be structured in a certain way, check this description for the details. To delete apps: There’s a new button on the application dialog.
To delete apps: There’s a new button on the application dialog.

DVDX 2.0:
Allow PPC side hardware access.
Also known as the magic HW_AHBPROT register.
TMD version bumped to 2, in case anyone needs to check for e.g. HW_AHBPROT.

get the installer here: http://bootmii.org/download

bad news: i still advise not to update to 4.2. (Wii Brew said so) (i'm only restating this for any non-members of this fourm who are reading this)

According to bushing, "The [boot 2 update] code [from Ninty] is so buggy that we decided to write our own for the HackMii installer." There are some people who are bricking their Wii as a result of doing a standard update, whether or not they had hacks before they updated. It is therefore highly recommended that you at the very least do not upgrade through Nintendo.

plus i learned from the Gecko fourms that Gecko 1.9.2 will not load on 4.2

so i suggest using the online update feature on your homebrew channel to upgrade to 1.0.5.

again DO NOT UPDATE YOUR WII THROUGH NINTENDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!

@ WarioMan77,

You forgot to copy and paste this from that post:


Here is the Hackmii link, if anyone is interested (http://hackmii.com/2009/09/silly_games/)

I say spread the word. Also, I love making these:

(http://nintendobros.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/lazyntd.png?w=450&h=152) (http://nintendobros.com/2009/09/30/system-menu-4-2-danger-to-unmodded-wiis/)

Image will also link you to yet another little "rodomontade" on [NB]

Does anyone think gecko os will get an update asap so that it is compatible with 4.2e

There are 1-2 bugs in Gecko OS 1.9.2 that are fixed for some time now(in the svn version), but are not released. And there seems to be one bug in the latest svn version(crashes under certain circumstances when launching a game from disc). I don't think it will be fixed soon, but i hope it will be fixed eventually. Even if that gets you nowhere, as you would not be able to use the rebooter or VC/WiiWare. (and if you reinstall an IOS249, you don't need a Gecko OS update)

Will the latest gamecube action replay work on 4.2e it worked on 4.0e would like someone to answer this cheers.

I have SD Media Launcher which has GCN Action Replay and GCN Freeloader as well
as SD Media Launcher on it and all works on my friends wii 4.2 E.
I hope that's some help for to you :)

That helps a lot now if only gecko os works on 4.2e i will update as i have already updated to the latest hombrew channel which works on 4.2e

You guys have no idea how much I appreciate seeing this warning just now. I was getting ready to finally install HomeBrew (got my SD/Reader just today in the mail) when I saw the notice. SO glad that I came here tonight and saw that, now I know not to update through Nintendo.

So just to clear things up, I should still be able to install Homebrew, then go through it to the channel and update my Wii that way, correct?

question.
will there be a bugfix for gecko Os with the new title I.D. of the homebrew channel being found?

I'll try to get into contact weith brkirch.. if it does not happen, I'll do some bugfixes of SVN r12 and release it as SVN version!

Bannerbomb exploit v2 has been made to work with Sys menu 4.2, so far there are 3 working exploits.

Source: WiiBrew (http://wiibrew.org)

Again Nintendo fail to stop hacking, even non-brewers are getting bricked because of the boot2 update, unfortunatley the Wii doesn't make a backup of the current Sys menu before you update it, so if you turn off your Wii while updating, more times than less you will have brick :-/

Sadly the Bannerbomb v2 has brung the noobs back... they were like "yuk yuk yuk, where can I get Homebrew?" then Comex comes back and... *Self-Explanitory*

nintendo really should just give up on this, the comparision between how long they take to make these updates and how quick the homebrewers fix them is a joke, they r no hopers.

HBC's ID should be the same as the Nintendo Channel :)
Is Nintendo stupid enough to block that ID? :D

You know, that'd be pretty clever, but would it be realistically possible? Ah, pipe dreams...

My wii automatically updated...Meh...

You're not lost.. Bannerbomb v2 and Hackmii INstaller 1.05 will bring back homebrew to your Wii. I do not recommend upgrading still as I do not see any improvements by this system menu other than a direct attack on homebrew. If you accidently upgraded use bannerbomb v2 and Hackmii Installer to make Homebrew return!

If I could just remember how to use the installer...And find Bannerbomb...

Bannerbomb: http://bannerbomb.qoid.us/ (according to WiiBrew, for this version you MUST use the SD Card menu and NOT the standard Data Management menu!)

WiiBrew has a tutorial on installing the homebrew channel: http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_setup

Its been awhile since ive been into the wiibrew scene, last update i checked over was really 4.0 but im just wondering about something. I have used wan...'s firmware updater to 4.1 and my wii sport resort requires me to run a wii system update when im not running it through Gecko OS. Is this game update safe to do for me?

Now if only Gecko was updated...

all we can do is wait :-[

Im no tehcnical wiz so lemme see if ive got this straight.
Im on system 4.0e with the SD card menu added.
so for now all I have to do is wait for an updater just for the shop channel and a gecko update before I upgrade to 4.2?

I personally recommend all of you: upgrade to 4.1 - there is really NO REASON to upgrade to 4.2!
4.2 only aims at killing homebrew.. no new features..

It also kills Gecko OS 1.9.2 on top of that. But my system auto-upgraded to 4.2 because of a System Error in 4.1

Here is a link to the new wii shop channel installer http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Wii_Shop_and_IOS61_installer

You know what would rock...? The ability to undo an upgrade that was added. XD

NOT!!! >:(
that would just cause a brick.

Not what I meant, hun. Just rolling back to a previous working version. Like Nintendo giving us back-up options, and rollback like a computer.

i meant not with homebrew. (ex. AnyRegionChanger)

I have updated to the latest version of the homebrew channel which is compatible with 4.2e will gecko os work because i updated the homebrew channel first.

I'M NOT UPDATING ANYWAY!!!!!
IT'S THAT STUPID BUGGY boot2v4 I'M AFRIAD OF! :mad: >:(

If some piece of crap upgrade deletes my Homebrew Channel, I'll just use Twilight Hack to reinstall the Homebrew Channel.

FAIL!!!

Sorry to say that: the Twilight Hack is impossible since System Menu 4.0 - user Bannerbomb v2!

imagine nintendo get so mad that they make 4.3 which stops you copying saves COMPLETELY and they refuse to let you connect to nintendo wifi on any game without updating (if thats possible)

Nah, they won't do that.
They just block all channels except the disc channel :)

That's not possible with current IOS based games.. the games run in a sandbox and they cannot see the system menu.. some IOS allow seeing more console details (like IOS16 for the rescue discs - or IOS30 for the system menus) just games do not use them yet.. in theory Nintendo could develop such a feature for new IOS.. even the shop channel DOES NOT know your system menu version! Nintendo just updates the shop to give non-knowing users the feeling the system would know its version!

in wich case the hackers would find another workaround and nintendo will pull their hair out. :p
yh i guess so, even if they somehow do find a way to do it i imagine fixing it will be as easy as fixing the shop channel.

I don't know if anyone has found this or not but, Gecko OS 1.07b is still on the Homebrew Browser...and it works! I haven't tested the Region Free feature yet but I will sometime...But the Codes still work like it did with 1.9.2 :)

Gecko 1.9 has introduces some new code types and fixes.. generally however, codes are compatible to each other. So as long as you have games which boot with Gecko OS 1.07b without actually getting 002 errors.. then 1.07b still works, yes!

Umm I have gecko 1.9.1 still(never updated). Would it work on the new Wii menu? I am just wondering.
Edit: Nevermind I saw Wiibrew, it says yes...

When a game connects to WFC it sends some important datas like MAC address, serial number and other and it uses some sub-routine (IOS?) to get those datas. If they could manage to edit sub-routines to send more or slightly different datas (sub-routines not written inside the game but inside the wii) and they could manage to update their WFC servers then they could block not 4.2+ wiis. Am I wrong?

What they can do: they can update ALL IOS files.. and as the games (you are correct on that) send IOS versions to WFC, WFC will be able to check if you run an old IOS.. so they could technically create updates in future and update ALL IOS files alongside updates.. then they could do some detection.

But then they would spend a lot of time and money for implementing that, and the hackers just 2 days for a bypass :)

I am afraid i have done a update to 4.2 already. Now I cannot load Gecko OS 1.9.2 which allowed me to play Pal games on my Wii. I just bought new game and without Gecko i cannot load it.

I have managed to get homebrew back via the Hackmii installer v0.5 but even then Gecko will not load, just blank screen.

Does anybody know when this will be fixed

To last post: use the gecko 1.9.1. The link is in this topic and in Wiibrew. It works just fine for me.

Gecko 1.9.2b should work on 4.2 again. The cIOS functionality of 1.9.2 is not working in 4.2, so 1.9.2b has it removed it!

i found this on the smash boards

http://rapidshare.com/files/289604800/V4.2_Safe_Firmware_Updater.rar.html

It claims to update to 4.2 without the risk of bricking your Wii.

can somebody test it to see if it works? :confused:

There are many updaters.. just I do not see the use in updating this time. Seriously, why? What actual features does 4.2 bring?

That's what i thought >:(

Same thing happened to me. I need help installing the Homebrew Channel again with HackMii. Anybody know how?

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I'm trying to install Homebrew Channel 1.0.6 using the HackMii Installer v0.6 but I don't know how! What should I do?

http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_setup

this should help.

I would recommend Bannerbomb (v2 if you have 4.2), but you can try Smash Stack (if you have Brawl) or Indiana Pwns (if you have LEGO Indiana Jones) if you can.

theres been yet another shop channel update, is there a new shop channel update available to download?

try the Wii shop and IOS 61 installer.
you'll find it at WiiBrew.

If i save the homebrew channel on my SD card, Could i still use it in the 4.2 update  :(

No! Internally the Wii will try copying over the HBC from SD card to internal memory if it isn't already installed there. During that copying the Wii will check the signature. If it is wrong (and HBC is fake-signed thus it has a wrong signature) the launching will fail!

Well that sucks :mad: oh well

i dont see the difference between waninkokos updater and this one, and like link said, no point updating

I agree. I like my hacked games and my system menu the way it is. :smileyface:

Hi guys !!!

What about the new update for the WiiShop Channel?
Is it safe after upgrading the system to the 4.2E version by Waninkoko?

From what i've heard i don't think there is any point updating like Jassim said :(

If you want to update the shop channel, use Tona's WII shop and IOS 61 installer.

Does it really work  :(

For me it does work, yet there are many people who say it would not.. for one thing: your system menu needs IOS60, the shop channel is a seperate application. If you only update IOS61 and the shop channel, your bricking chances are 0% - so you can try it!

DVDX     Removed by the System Menu upon bootup.     Use HackMii installer v0.6 to (re)install. DVDX 2.0 will not be removed by the 4.2 update.
Homebrew Channel    Removed by the System Menu upon bootup.    Use HackMii installer v0.6 to (re)install. HBC 1.0.6 will not be removed by the 4.2 update.

Aparently my hbc is 1.0.6 can I still update?

How can i get this IOS60 for my system menu  :confused:

try this wii app: http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Dop-IOS/Dop-IOS_MOD   ;)

Yes, you can.. if you have 4.1 though, there is literally NO REASON to update, unless you fail at updating the shop channel.

Thanks  ;D i wii use this app when i play my wii.

well there is a 0.1% chance that you screw up your shop chan if its a faulty ios but then youd just need to get a working one then itll be back to normal :D

I meant 0% chance of bricking ;)

That's cool ^-^

careful though, the latest hbc removes the bubble game :O

Oh noes, you're right!

On the other hand, I personally like that it's the first version with true widescreen capablilities!

You can still pop the bubbles in the background ;D

Now what if you were to delete the homebrew channel and then upgrade to 4.2. Then use bannerbomb to install the channel back.

no reason to do so whatsoever but do so if you wish

If you don't have the latest version of the Homebrew Channel installed, it will remove it when you update it to 4.2 anyway.  If you update it to 4.2, and then use the HackMii Installer to install the latest version of the Homebrew Channel, it should run without any problems.

I wouldn't recommend updating to 4.2, though.

Hey! is there an app for downgrading my system menu? if so please give me the link :smileyface:

Latest version is 0.6 correct?

I guess so :confused:

From what I can tell, that looks like it is the latest version.  Again, I wouldn't update to 4.2, as there has (or had?) been reports of completely unmodified consoles bricking from trying to update to it.  This article seems to explain things pretty well...

updates and bricking (http://www.hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/)

anyone else find it sad how they try blocking dvdx on every update cos they cant accept the fact that dvd support for the wii was so easy in the first place.

I've heard (a long time ago) Nintendo didn't add dvd support because of a lot of licensing.

I doubt it's the DVD functinality of DVDX itself.. DVD functionality and playing burnt DVDs that's very close to each other!

DVDX and playing burnt discs is not close to each other. The very 1st version of the backup launcher required DVDX, but that was years ago. Blocking DVDX only blocks DVDX and is totally pointless as you can only use it when you can run own code anyways. And that also means you can install a new version of DVDX.

True, I just try to understand Nintendo's thoughts but noone seems to be able to do that anyway ^^

Its just sad.  Nintendo has its best people to fix this. Yet just 5 people can hack the newest version!  3 words.  Nintendo needs brains.  And  O0 's

I found the stuff needed to reinstall the Homebrew Channel, but I have no idea where to put the stuff at. What folders does what go in, because it doesn't show up on my Wii.

What install method are you using (Bannerbomb, Smash Stack, Indiana Pwns)?  I'm not familiar with Smash Stack and Indiana Pwns, but with Bannerbomb, all that you  should have to do is place the 'boot.dol' or 'boot.elf' file of the HackMii Installer on the root of your SD card, and it should allow you to run the application.

I finally figured out what was wrong. I needed to re-format my sd card. I got it now. Thanks for the help though.

 :mad: My brother updated the Wii  :mad: ..... Is it possible to update back to version 4.1 or something ???

no problem.
just use the latest HackMii installer to regain your homebrew stuff.
(don't forget the latest Bannerbomb)
(downgrading from 4.2 might cause a brick!!!)

hey i updated my wii befour i found out about the home brew channel and a finally found away to  get it to work on wii versino 4.2 yey if you updated your wii email me and ill send you the files to put homebrew on 4.2

hello im new to wiird and i was wondering some things......

i've seen apps that update the wii shop channel,and im wondering which/what is the SAFEST way to do it, and does it actually work?(i read in wiibrew that it ask more than the correct cIOS or whatever it is called)....im one of those people who bought the internet channel,and im not sure what should i do since they are giving me a NES game....it also doesnt help that they are making demos to wiiware

and on another note....i am on system 4.0,and due to that i believe i can't use rebooter(wiiware/virtual console cheat/hacking,the ssbb virtual console glitch,etc) right??what is the safest thing i can do to get this back???is it safe??and should i instal bootmii first??if i update to 4.2,will it delete HBC even if it is in the latest version??and what pros & cons does it have??any other info that i might need??

any help for this is greatly appreciated,and if this post doesnt belong here sorry for the inconvenience

does gecko os plays backup games ??? no.....  HOW CAN I GET GAMMA LOADER ON MY WII SET WITHOUT GOING TO HBC . HBC BRICKSSSS WII SET , DONT GO THERE ITS DANGEROUS !!!

no

With these new menu updates what would cause the block of the Nintendo gamecube action replay working on wii.When a new system menu is released it would be very helpful if people could let us know if it gets blocked.

What blocks the action reply is the Mios, you should be able to downgrade the mios to remove the block, but its been so long since i've used the action reply i can't remember which version you would need

Yeah, I wanted to play "The new super Mario brothers wii" and got a message that said "You cannot play this software without updating your system. I guess I should have done more research but when I saw codes for this game I  just figured someone had a workaround for update 4.2. After updating I can play the game but when I try to use codes through homebrew I now get "Disc error". So, what now? do I need to uninstall my homebrew channel before I reinstall bannerbom v2?

*facepalm*
first of all, I got the same game for christmas and had the same problem.
But I still didn't update to play the game. Instead, I just ran the latest gecko os which installs the necessary files to play the game WITHOUT updating.
The latest version is on this site. If homebrew channel still works, then you do not even need to install V2 of bannerbomb. If it doesn't work, then delete it like deleting channels regularly, NOT thru wad manager. Then install bannerbomb v2, and try to see if gecko os 1.9.3 still works. If not, you will have to downgrade to 3.2 firmware. Unfortunately, attempting this will only cause a brick, so my advice would be waiting until a newer downgrading homebrew that doesn't cause the wii to brick on downgrading from 4.2 comes out. Remember, downgrading the wii is only necessary if the homebrew you want to work doesn't work.

EDIT: Thanks to brkirch for adding the feature to gecko os allowing me to play NSMBWii w/out updating. ;D

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you should downgrade. There are many tutorials on youtube for downgrading. I would check on wiibrew if downgrading from 4.0 causes a brick or not. I think it only bricks if you have 4.2. (But still check anyway). Remember, like it says on wiibrew, all downgrading has a risk of bricking the wii, especially if you don't know what you are doing. When 3.3 firmware came out, I updated, and that caused a problem with hombrew. So, I downgraded back to 3.2 and then installed flexible custom firmware 3.2. Then I used gecko os to install the necessary files to play New Super Mario Bros. Wii.

I have my firmware at 4.2 and homebrew works perfectly
I just had to install wads again, although installing one thing made it kill all of it!
Homebrew and Wad channels just didn't work.

this update is really bad for hackers. :(
soon thing will just keep getting worse with there next possible update for wii. :(

well if you have preloader you can prevent it from that(which i have installing on 4.2)

if i use gecko to play super mario bros. wii, will it update??? cause i have v4.1U and don't want to lose Homebrew/Gecko if it does?

If you play it through gecko, no... as stated about 5 times now.

Eugh. I'm so confused.  :confused:

Can I updated to 4.2 and still use GeckoOS and cheats and stuff? Some people say yes, so no.

I still got my nand file (not sure the filetype) and stuff. I could restore it and do a wii system restore too.

I just want to know if I can install homebrew on 4.2 and have it work with codes and stuff.

<==  :confused: :confused: :confused:

I'm running 4.2U, I have homebrew running, and I can use Ocarina or Gecko OS to apply cheats, the only compatibility issue that I "might" be having with it, is that I can not Hack Gamecube games with my USB Gecko. Everything else but that is fine.

did u have to do anything with homebrew before updating? (i.e remove it, or maybe restore wii to what it was before installing homebrew)

It should work, but why would you update?
It is just harder to make homebrew work again and you don't get anything from updating, it has no additional features.

thought i had to if i wanted to play newer games... the docs for the games keep saying that it will check to make sure the wii is up to date before running...

also, how else do i access the shop channel?

There are some unofficial shop channel updaters, you can find them on wiibrew.org
You can block the updates by installing Preloader or by loading them through Gecko.

how do i access wii shop channel on a pc? wiibrew says it doesnt work since 2008

Pirating Channels??

I just want HBC lol. Got my cheats and my emulators, I'm happy :)

I'm still at System Menu 3.something. What would be the best way to update if I want to have the 4.0 version's SD card upgrade functionality for more space/better card reading?

You know that the 4.0 update only provides sdhc support for the system menu? That includes VC/WiiWare from sd card, and backups of saves and channels on sd card, BUT NOT any games that use sd cards themselves(SSBB and music games). For homebrew it does not matter which system menu you have installed in order to be able to use sdhc cards, that depends on the program itself and maybe also on the IOS it's using.

I don't trust sdhc cards anyways, nothing has 100% sdhc compatibility, and there are different compatibilies for almost everything that uses them. HBC, regular homebrew, BootMii and system menu are all compatible to different sdhc cards.

Hmm... I see. I guess that doesn't matter then.

What happens if you already updated it? Any solutions?

You can use bannerbomb v2 and the new hackmii to install the homebrewchanal the gecko os works(without reboot). If you want to use the rebooter downgreat or patch ios 36.

Thank you very much.  :cool: Is there a tutorial on how the whole thing works?

http://bannerbomb.qoid.us/index.new.php (http://bannerbomb.qoid.us/index.new.php) than wait press 1 install everything you want (homebrewchanal,DVDXv2,Bootmii). Then copy the gecko os in a folder in apps and rename them to boot.dol or boot.elf .

My mom got a new wii and bannerbomb don't work :p
the wii's firmware was 4.2 when she bought it. help please. :(

thanks in advance :P

Did you download bannerbomb v2?

yeah, is the way to do load bannerbomb different

The new bannerbomb must be started at the load VCgame from sd card menü (the sd button in the main screan).

oh okay it works thanks :)

Oh thanks! Is there a way to downgrade my Wii from 4.2U to 3.2U?

They don't need to brick homebrew, they need to brick the use of game-breaking online codes.

ONLINE HACKERS ARE JUST N00BS!!!!!
I WILL NEVER USE HACKS ONLINE!!!!!! :mad:

Err, yeah, n00bs.

Nobody should, online hacks suck all the fun out of online for others.

online hacks don't really work to well because i get cut of online every time i try to play online.

Quick question, i've got system version 4.2U

When i attempted to banner bomb my wii i got neither results the guide mentions. It doesn't give me a pop up nor does it freeze. Any idea what i'm doing wrong? (i've tried changing boot.elf to boot.dol)

Are you sure you have the files on the right place?
And do you go to the SD card menu?
Make sure you follow every step from here (http://bannerbomb.qoid.us/index.new.php).

Not entirely sure i have the files in the right place, mind taking a screen shot of how the card is supposed to be readied? Also from the SD card menu i'm assuming the one when you first start up the wii, not the system management menu.

Just download the file from here (http://bannerbomb.qoid.us/index.new.php) and extract it and put the "private" folder on your SD card, if you already have an "private" folder on there rename it or  copy it to you pc.

I was already at firmware 4.2 and I was able to install both the HomeBrew Channel and the Ocarina App.

What if I get a game that requires me to update?

You can install 4.2, and it will get rid of HBC, but you can use bannerbomb to re-install HBC with the latest Hackmii installer.

If you are confident, you could try to manually update your IOS, but you could break stuff if you aren't careful.

ONE MORE THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WiiBrew says downgrading or installing patched updates is dangerous and may brick your Wii.

Yes that is correct. It happened to me twice!

use SciiFii^^

Right, that's why I warned him he could break stuff and only to do that if he's confident.  If he doesn't know what he's doing it's probably safer to just update to 4.2 and then run BannerBomb -> Hackmii Installer again. 

Fortunately RS2 doesn't make me update :D

Now if only there were working codes for it.

WORKING codes mind you, not that broken filth in the codes forum.

I hav 4.2U and I instlled IOS249 ans custom cIos and can play burnt games and restored the trucha bug to install wads no problem :)

Are you being facetious, Sharkbyte?  Or are you serious?

My guess would be that 4.3 will be released just before Mario Galaxy 2.
And maybe a nice anti-piracy thingy for Mario Galaxy 2 which would be extra hard to crack and will require you to update.

But lets hope not :)

Not true.. My kids Wii was on 4.0 for a year until I updated to Nintendo's 4.2 two days ago and the Homebrew Channel, Wiiflow and two other backup loader channels long with VC games that was install with a Wad was all still there.. All I did was run BannerBomb -> Hackmii Installer again. but I skipped the HBC because it was still on the Wii.. I remembering hearing that if you have the up to day HBC before updated to 4.2 it would not be deleted.. So I have see it first hand that it does not delete HBC or other channels..

Well, I updated to 4.2E, And then installed Bootmii, Priiloader, The HBC and Usb Loader.
Works fine for me.

You can update to 4.2u and still have the homebrew channel and gecko, just use hackmii installer v.06, or the newest one. Here is the link I used to download HBC in my 4.2u wii (just this, its a package you don't need hackmii separate it comes in the pack): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WGEFAMYU (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WGEFAMYU) ;D  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is their a system menu update in super Mario galaxy 2

You have to update to 4.2u but you can still install the homebrew channnel. Use my link above your last post to install it on 4.2u.

Silly nintendo!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

SO I downloaded homebrew channel via new hackmii installer @ bannerbomb

The chance of your Wii bricking is small.  But non-zero.

And if you ran the latest Hackmii installer, then 4.2 won't remove your HBC.  4.2 looks for HBC in a particular way and the latest HBC manages to elude the 4.2 update.

Maybe my Wii isn't the version mentioned, but my Wii is version 4.2u and I just installed the homebrew channel today! (second time I installed. lost it first time when I updated.)

If your Homebrew Channel has the TitleID of "HAXX," and you update to the 4.2 System Menu with it, then the Homebrew Channel will be deleted from your console.  The newest version of the Homebrew Channel uses the TitleID "JODI."  Because of this, the 4.2 System Menu does not delete it, as it is not looking for that TitleID.

If you have the newest Homebrew Channel, with TitleID "JODI," and you update to 4.2 from there, that version of the Homebrew Channel will not be deleted.  All older versions of the Homebrew Channel use the TitleID "HAXX," so those would be deleted when updating.

I believe that the newest version of the HackMii Installer also uses a different exploit to install the Homebrew Channel onto the newest System Menu.

Anyway, that is basically why some people have not had their Homebrew Channel deleted when updating to the 4.2 System Menu.  If you updated the System Menu to 4.2 before updating the Homebrew Channel to the latest version, it would be deleted.  If you updated the Homebrew Channel first, then it would not be deleted.

http://wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.2

It stubs a lot of older IOS's, but I think the newer versions have different IOS numbers to work around this.  But "homebrew", as in the stuff on your SD card, that's all safe.

Hehe my sentements excactly, Nintendo claims this homebrew stuff is 'illegal' when they've let stuff like action replay and gameshark (which is basically the same shit but you gotta pay for it) run for years without giving a damn. Honestly, they just don't want people messing with their consol. I have very few 'apps' myself, just the cheat manager, cheat downloader, and gecko os for meh games. Other than that screw homebrew. lol Thats really the only reason I wanted it anyway for the game hacks.

I like to give the geniouses who thought up the 'gecko' usb addition in order for the 'twilight hack to work' scam a pat on the back though. All these clever idiots probably did was modd the coding and casing of a Nintendo usb conector (and yes I know because I own one) with a new name. Super pat on the back for whoever thought up bomberman though, you guys saved me a shitload of ripoff money and the risk of heh bricking my wii XP I run my homebrewchannel perfectly without the little ripoff accessory. :D

Also, not to sound like a n00b but what the hell does 'brick' mean...just some lame adverb for break? Sheesh, who comes up with this lingo X_X lol no offence to who made it up though ^_^
Oh and btw Wiiztec, if you're watching this topic I sent u a pm for some codes, not gonna say anymore :D

Although, I wouldn't taunt Nintendo...nobody messes with a ten bilion or more industry without eventually getting screwed XP heh well at least nobody who produces the games with nintendo seems to be complaining about 'homebrew' so why should they ne? I would say pride is more an issue than homebrew in this case. it seems to go like this

Hackers: haha we can play our cheat codes w/o your aproval *chimed*
Nintendo: o noes the lawsuits are comming in! Or going to *updates wii*
Hackers: same thing again
Nintendo: repeats this again until 4.2 comes out
Hackers: *sticks tongue out* hehehe :P *pointing fingers tauntingly*
Nintendo: DAMN X_X *mario game over jingle playes in background*
XD

I didn't read 90% of that post but I saw the question:
Your system is as useful as a "brick" when it doesn't work at all anymore.

Ahh so it's square and not useful XP I get it , still kinda lame though lol well maybe nerdy XD still no offence, it' kinda clever :P but you should read the rest of tha post too X3

thank you

uhm...it's actually a pretty common phrase that existed before there was a Nintendo Wii.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricked

Oh? is that like n00b XD cause that's a lame one too, oh and wooot XD that died out FAST lol
Say, do you feel like maybe fixing up a few quick codes? :s I'd like it if the metroid trilogy codes were easier to activate and actually worked *shifty eyes*

This thread is not appropriate for the discussion of support requests.  Find the forum for your region (USA PAL or JAP), then find the Wii Code Support sub-forum.  Then search for the game and reply to that thread with your question.

will formatting my wii remove the 4.2 update?

how do i remove it?

If you are already at 4.2, then there is really no reason to remove it.  With a patched/downgraded IOS36, you can pretty much do everything on 4.2 that could be done on 4.1 and lower.

The easiest, and probably safest, way to downgrade/remove 4.2 would probably be if you had BootMii installed as boot2, and had a NAND backup of a System Menu lower than 4.2.  However, this still wouldn't downgrade your boot2 (as far as I know, boot2 cannot be downgraded).

Okay, because I tried to download stuff to my Wii, and it keeps saying this format is not supported. I tried downloading the code manager and some of the other thing in the links that some one posted in a reply to other post in the help section and it said the same thing for them all. Since I have the update, will I ever be able to use cheat codes/hacks?

If I need a cheat code device in order to use hacks, which one can I buy in stores? Will it have the infinite item/max items slot codes that I'm looking for so that I don't have to spend countless hours farming stuff?