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« Reply #180 on: May 29, 2010, 01:15:36 PM »

Sometimes, I can only link to another page. The update effects this time are critical, thus it is recommended NOT(!) to update at the current time.

http://wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.2

In case WiiBrew is down, the results of updating would be:
  • Homebrew Channel for the first time will get uninstalled
  • BootMii will get removed, it seems to rewrite boot2!
  • cIOS will be overwritten!
  • bannerbomb is fixed! Indiana pwns or Stack Smash (USA only) should work!
  • WiiBrew says "deletes most homebrew" so I guess that also includes custom channels!

I guess that says everything. Thanks to TwilightErik!

What's to be hoped for: maybe someone (waninkoko probably won't as he left the scene) will write a system menu updater which installs the menu but leaves most homebrew on the disc. This is however based on the assumption that 4.2 removes stuff on install - if it does on every start.. then we're reaching Xbox 1 levels with modified menus!

SO I downloaded homebrew channel via new hackmii installer @ bannerbomb
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« Reply #181 on: May 29, 2010, 05:15:15 PM »

The chance of your Wii bricking is small.  But non-zero.

And if you ran the latest Hackmii installer, then 4.2 won't remove your HBC.  4.2 looks for HBC in a particular way and the latest HBC manages to elude the 4.2 update.
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« Reply #182 on: June 02, 2010, 06:46:20 PM »

Maybe my Wii isn't the version mentioned, but my Wii is version 4.2u and I just installed the homebrew channel today! (second time I installed. lost it first time when I updated.)
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« Reply #183 on: June 03, 2010, 12:11:45 AM »

If your Homebrew Channel has the TitleID of "HAXX," and you update to the 4.2 System Menu with it, then the Homebrew Channel will be deleted from your console.  The newest version of the Homebrew Channel uses the TitleID "JODI."  Because of this, the 4.2 System Menu does not delete it, as it is not looking for that TitleID.

If you have the newest Homebrew Channel, with TitleID "JODI," and you update to 4.2 from there, that version of the Homebrew Channel will not be deleted.  All older versions of the Homebrew Channel use the TitleID "HAXX," so those would be deleted when updating.

I believe that the newest version of the HackMii Installer also uses a different exploit to install the Homebrew Channel onto the newest System Menu.

Anyway, that is basically why some people have not had their Homebrew Channel deleted when updating to the 4.2 System Menu.  If you updated the System Menu to 4.2 before updating the Homebrew Channel to the latest version, it would be deleted.  If you updated the Homebrew Channel first, then it would not be deleted.
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« Reply #184 on: June 04, 2010, 01:48:39 PM »

http://wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.2

It stubs a lot of older IOS's, but I think the newer versions have different IOS numbers to work around this.  But "homebrew", as in the stuff on your SD card, that's all safe.
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« Reply #185 on: June 05, 2010, 03:46:20 AM »

I think Nintendo is satisfied with their 4.2 "homebrew killer" update. I am glad they are too lazy to make 4.3 which in rumors, would "remotely update your wii." Is that the best you got nintendo? You just can't win!  Grin
Hehe my sentements excactly, Nintendo claims this homebrew stuff is 'illegal' when they've let stuff like action replay and gameshark (which is basically the same shit but you gotta pay for it) run for years without giving a damn. Honestly, they just don't want people messing with their consol. I have very few 'apps' myself, just the cheat manager, cheat downloader, and gecko os for meh games. Other than that screw homebrew. lol Thats really the only reason I wanted it anyway for the game hacks.

I like to give the geniouses who thought up the 'gecko' usb addition in order for the 'twilight hack to work' scam a pat on the back though. All these clever idiots probably did was modd the coding and casing of a Nintendo usb conector (and yes I know because I own one) with a new name. Super pat on the back for whoever thought up bomberman though, you guys saved me a shitload of ripoff money and the risk of heh bricking my wii XP I run my homebrewchannel perfectly without the little ripoff accessory. Cheesy

Also, not to sound like a n00b but what the hell does 'brick' mean...just some lame adverb for break? Sheesh, who comes up with this lingo X_X lol no offence to who made it up though ^_^
Oh and btw Wiiztec, if you're watching this topic I sent u a pm for some codes, not gonna say anymore Cheesy

Although, I wouldn't taunt Nintendo...nobody messes with a ten bilion or more industry without eventually getting screwed XP heh well at least nobody who produces the games with nintendo seems to be complaining about 'homebrew' so why should they ne? I would say pride is more an issue than homebrew in this case. it seems to go like this

Hackers: haha we can play our cheat codes w/o your aproval *chimed*
Nintendo: o noes the lawsuits are comming in! Or going to *updates wii*
Hackers: same thing again
Nintendo: repeats this again until 4.2 comes out
Hackers: *sticks tongue out* hehehe Tongue *pointing fingers tauntingly*
Nintendo: DAMN X_X *mario game over jingle playes in background*
XD
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« Reply #186 on: June 05, 2010, 07:52:23 AM »

I didn't read 90% of that post but I saw the question:
Your system is as useful as a "brick" when it doesn't work at all anymore.
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« Reply #187 on: June 05, 2010, 03:10:41 PM »

I didn't read 90% of that post but I saw the question:
Your system is as useful as a "brick" when it doesn't work at all anymore.
Ahh so it's square and not useful XP I get it , still kinda lame though lol well maybe nerdy XD still no offence, it' kinda clever Tongue but you should read the rest of tha post too X3
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« Reply #188 on: June 05, 2010, 04:54:47 PM »

thank you
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« Reply #189 on: June 06, 2010, 03:00:22 AM »

Ahh so it's square and not useful XP I get it , still kinda lame though lol well maybe nerdy XD still no offence, it' kinda clever Tongue but you should read the rest of tha post too X3

uhm...it's actually a pretty common phrase that existed before there was a Nintendo Wii.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricked
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« Reply #190 on: June 06, 2010, 03:40:43 AM »

Ahh so it's square and not useful XP I get it , still kinda lame though lol well maybe nerdy XD still no offence, it' kinda clever Tongue but you should read the rest of tha post too X3

uhm...it's actually a pretty common phrase that existed before there was a Nintendo Wii.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricked
Oh? is that like n00b XD cause that's a lame one too, oh and wooot XD that died out FAST lol
Say, do you feel like maybe fixing up a few quick codes? :s I'd like it if the metroid trilogy codes were easier to activate and actually worked *shifty eyes*
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« Reply #191 on: June 06, 2010, 04:00:41 AM »

This thread is not appropriate for the discussion of support requests.  Find the forum for your region (USA PAL or JAP), then find the Wii Code Support sub-forum.  Then search for the game and reply to that thread with your question.
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« Reply #192 on: June 19, 2010, 05:02:35 PM »

will formatting my wii remove the 4.2 update?
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« Reply #193 on: June 19, 2010, 05:27:43 PM »

how do i remove it?
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« Reply #194 on: June 19, 2010, 08:11:24 PM »

If you are already at 4.2, then there is really no reason to remove it.  With a patched/downgraded IOS36, you can pretty much do everything on 4.2 that could be done on 4.1 and lower.

The easiest, and probably safest, way to downgrade/remove 4.2 would probably be if you had BootMii installed as boot2, and had a NAND backup of a System Menu lower than 4.2.  However, this still wouldn't downgrade your boot2 (as far as I know, boot2 cannot be downgraded).
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