Rebooter stopped working

Started by the_importer, January 02, 2009, 06:08:33 PM

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the_importer

Quote from: Nuke on January 08, 2009, 03:57:55 AM
What Nintendo did was patch the ability to allow coders to identify as an other title, in rebooter's case it identifies as the system menu then jumps to it. Nintendo patched up every IOS on the Wii with the online update. As IOS16 is not an IOS that is on the system or used in games, they didn't include this.

However next update, Nintendo will more than 100% likely place an IOS of 16 on your system, so even that can't be used.

Rebooter isn't needed for gecko 2.0 anyway, as i worked out the compatibility issues with the press a mode, and this doesn't depend on an exploit it just uses Nintendos own code and they can't patch it out as its needed by many retail games., so even without rebooter you will be ok if you have updated to 3.4 and want to boot games like red steel and other titles which had problems.

i would avoid updating though, as there are no benefits to it, and we can always install IOS files needed for games as they are officially signed by Nintendo.

If Nintendo could have went the way of the PS3 and made the Wii region Free, I probably wouldn't be using the Homebrew Channel in the first place.

Nuke

yes so true,

i think the 2 largest mistakes Nintendo made with the Wii are these

1. No Region Free Games
2. Not allowing Wiiware to be an open platform for Independent coders.



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Link

Quote from: Nuke on January 08, 2009, 04:40:04 AM
yes so true,

i think the 2 largest mistakes Nintendo made with the Wii are these

1. No Region Free Games
2. Not allowing Wiiware to be an open platform for Independent coders.

Seeing the DSi coming up in EU/NA things are just going worse.. DSiWare remains closed and the DSi is the first region locked handheld. And while my acceptence for region coding is limited in case of consoles (okay, okay, okay, you normally do not take your console along on vacancies), I have no acceptance for the DSi.. how will this end? I am allowed to carry my DSi to my next flight to X but if I want some games to play during my journey I can't buy any because my DSi wouldn't play them - thank you, Nintendo.

The Game Gear wasn't region locked, the Game Boys werent's, the original DS (DS Phat/DS Lite) weren't and even the PSP is not.. and now.. the first region locked handheld for mass-market.

Additionally I should say: looking on the console side.. region codes seem to get unpopular.. most PS3 games are region-free and most X360 games are at least multi region and many even region free - single region should be over - seems like Nintendo didn't recognize!

the_importer

Quote from: Link on January 08, 2009, 09:10:39 AM
Quote from: Nuke on January 08, 2009, 04:40:04 AM
yes so true,

i think the 2 largest mistakes Nintendo made with the Wii are these

1. No Region Free Games
2. Not allowing Wiiware to be an open platform for Independent coders.

Seeing the DSi coming up in EU/NA things are just going worse.. DSiWare remains closed and the DSi is the first region locked handheld. And while my acceptence for region coding is limited in case of consoles (okay, okay, okay, you normally do not take your console along on vacancies), I have no acceptance for the DSi.. how will this end? I am allowed to carry my DSi to my next flight to X but if I want some games to play during my journey I can't buy any because my DSi wouldn't play them - thank you, Nintendo.

The Game Gear wasn't region locked, the Game Boys werent's, the original DS (DS Phat/DS Lite) weren't and even the PSP is not.. and now.. the first region locked handheld for mass-market.

Additionally I should say: looking on the console side.. region codes seem to get unpopular.. most PS3 games are region-free and most X360 games are at least multi region and many even region free - single region should be over - seems like Nintendo didn't recognize!

The DSi will not have physical card games that will be compatible only with DSi and be region locked (unlike GB and GBC). The DSiWares (like Wiiwares) will be the softwares and games that will be regions locked which is kind of a stupid term since these are downloadable and will be available depending on your region.

REDSOXROX

Quote from: Nuke on January 08, 2009, 04:40:04 AM
yes so true,

i think the 2 largest mistakes Nintendo made with the Wii are these

1. No Region Free Games
2. Not allowing Wiiware to be an open platform for Independent coders.





No. 2 is one of the things I wanted most...I'm into making apps for Ipod Touch/Iphone right now, and it really hit me awhile ago...I wish I could do the same with Wii...

And, why would Nintendo not want region free? What is wrong with it?
Importing games from other countries for less money? Making you buy a region C Wii to play a region C game, when your old Wii and games are region D and can't play them, to make more profit? :confused:
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the_importer

Quote from: REDSOXROX on January 10, 2009, 09:36:49 PM
Quote from: Nuke on January 08, 2009, 04:40:04 AM
yes so true,

i think the 2 largest mistakes Nintendo made with the Wii are these

1. No Region Free Games
2. Not allowing Wiiware to be an open platform for Independent coders.





No. 2 is one of the things I wanted most...I'm into making apps for Ipod Touch/Iphone right now, and it really hit me awhile ago...I wish I could do the same with Wii...

And, why would Nintendo not want region free? What is wrong with it?
Importing games from other countries for less money? Making you buy a region C Wii to play a region C game, when your old Wii and games are region D and can't play them, to make more profit? :confused:

You DO know that regardless if you buy the European, North American or Japanese version of a game, that all the cash eventually goes to Nintendo of Japan because they're a Japanese company, right?

REDSOXROX

Quote from: the_importer on January 10, 2009, 10:01:25 PM
Quote from: REDSOXROX on January 10, 2009, 09:36:49 PM
Quote from: Nuke on January 08, 2009, 04:40:04 AM
yes so true,

i think the 2 largest mistakes Nintendo made with the Wii are these

1. No Region Free Games
2. Not allowing Wiiware to be an open platform for Independent coders.





No. 2 is one of the things I wanted most...I'm into making apps for Ipod Touch/Iphone right now, and it really hit me awhile ago...I wish I could do the same with Wii...

And, why would Nintendo not want region free? What is wrong with it?
Importing games from other countries for less money? Making you buy a region C Wii to play a region C game, when your old Wii and games are region D and can't play them, to make more profit? :confused:

You DO know that regardless if you buy the European, North American or Japanese version of a game, that all the cash eventually goes to Nintendo of Japan because they're a Japanese company, right?
Yes, but how did you think I didn't know that from what I posted (so I can clear it up)
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Red Sox: 9 Yankees: 7 Final!

Link

Quote from: the_importer on January 10, 2009, 10:01:25 PM
You DO know that regardless if you buy the European, North American or Japanese version of a game, that all the cash eventually goes to Nintendo of Japan because they're a Japanese company, right?

You do also know that Nintendo can charge differently according to regions. And in most cases Europeans and Australians for example get charged the most for the games. Ever wondered why J is Japan, E North America and P Europe? Doesn't make too much sense but if you look at it:

J = Japan
E = Extra Cash
P = Pissed off customers

Why are Europeans pissed off? Well.. multiple reasons: in most cases we have to wait longer for a game and even have to pay more. For example Brawl.. when released it was 60$ or 60€ - now most of you Americans had to pay taxes on the price so let's raise it 75$ which would be 25% taxes (in most cases it's much less). Now 1€ is about 1.4$ --> so 60€=84$ (Euro prices include taxes). So having to wait longer to get the same game and then even pay more? Yes, that truly justifies the P. And most publishers do it the same way.. one of the reasons I nowadays favor Valve's online distribution system for PC games (Steam).. Valve released Portal, the Orangebox and whatever at the exact same time worldwide. Pissed-ioff customers? Not that I know!

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the_importer

Quote from: Link on January 11, 2009, 09:22:40 AM
Quote from: the_importer on January 10, 2009, 10:01:25 PM
You DO know that regardless if you buy the European, North American or Japanese version of a game, that all the cash eventually goes to Nintendo of Japan because they're a Japanese company, right?

You do also know that Nintendo can charge differently according to regions. And in most cases Europeans and Australians for example get charged the most for the games. Ever wondered why J is Japan, E North America and P Europe? Doesn't make too much sense but if you look at it:

J = Japan
E = Extra Cash
P = Pissed off customers

Why are Europeans pissed off? Well.. multiple reasons: in most cases we have to wait longer for a game and even have to pay more. For example Brawl.. when released it was 60$ or 60€ - now most of you Americans had to pay taxes on the price so let's raise it 75$ which would be 25% taxes (in most cases it's much less). Now 1€ is about 1.4$ --> so 60€=84$ (Euro prices include taxes). So having to wait longer to get the same game and then even pay more? Yes, that truly justifies the P. And most publishers do it the same way.. one of the reasons I nowadays favor Valve's online distribution system for PC games (Steam).. Valve released Portal, the Orangebox and whatever at the exact same time worldwide. Pissed-ioff customers? Not that I know!

Or perhaps it's because they want you to pay extra for having to include a damn PAL region coding just to accommodate the fact that you wanted to have a better picture on your TVs than the rest of us >_>

It's pretty much like asking for extras on your Pizza, you pay more and it take a bit more time.

Jassim

actually ntsc is as good as 60hz mode, 50hz is just the crappest mode

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the_importer

Quote from: jassim on January 11, 2009, 12:45:41 PM
actually ntsc is as good as 60hz mode, 50hz is just the crappest mode

Regardless, they still have to program a PAL format in there, which means extra time and money. Adding the that to the fact that the EUR and GBP is of higher value than both the Yen and USD and you have your answer.

Jassim

you know i dont even understand why thy even bother with 50hz anymore, every tv made beyond about 1998 probably supports 60hz mode, ive never experienced 60hz mode not working even on a tv which is approx 10 years old min.


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the_importer

Quote from: jassim on January 11, 2009, 01:03:51 PM
you know i dont even understand why thy even bother with 50hz anymore, every tv made beyond about 1998 probably supports 60hz mode, ive never experienced 60hz mode not working even on a tv which is approx 10 years old min.


face it, ur luckier than us


You've just answered your own question. A lot of people still have older TV sets and are keeping them because they don't give a rat's ass about HD and their set still works perfectly. Also, like it or not, video games are toys and like any toys, one of it's main target must remain children. Do you know many kids with a High Def TV or even modern in their room? No, they get the old TV that the parents use to have.

Jassim

huh?? you dont need high def for 60 hz mode, seriously non compatible 60hz tvs probably dont even exist anymore trust me

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