3.4 Update

[Mackorony101]

something that worrys me is if nintendo could get the 3.4 update on a game disc and if you install the special features (like the update for super mario galaxy) you would install 3.4

Whats the big deal anyways?
its not like we are doing anything bad

[111]

Hopefully, GeckoOS will be able to bypass any updates without any issues.  Also, when BootMii is released, that will hopefully make it very difficult to stop.

Nintendo mostly patches holes like the Twilight Hack because they also open the door to different forms of Wii piracy.  Unfortunately, the pirates always ruin it for everyone.

[Unknown0]

111, do you know if it's possible to not update for Animal Crossing: City Folk, but still use Wi-Fi?  I don't have the game yet I'm just wondering if anyone went through this problem, so I can prepare myself for whenever I get it.

[111]

Sorry, but I don't know.  I don't see why you couldn't use Wi-Fi, but I can't say for sure.

[Unknown0]

Sorry, but I don't know.  I don't see why you couldn't use Wi-Fi, but I can't say for sure.

Well, I would assume Wi-Fi would be updated to require a certain firmware?

I guess Nintendo doesn't do that?

[111]

I would try it with my copy of Super Smash Brothers Brawl, but I don't have a Wi-Fi connection.  You might be right, though.

When you have the game, I would first just load it through GeckoOS, and see if there are any problems.  If you are running into any problems, I would then try to install just IOS38, which you can read how to do here.  That will install only IOS38, and keep IOS30 and IOS31 vulnerable to the signing bug.

[pi*c]

why cant someone just make the wii read the gecko os as its own channel so nintendo cant delete it

[Austin]

why cant someone just make the wii read the gecko os as its own channel so nintendo cant delete it

maybe because no matter what its not a real channel unless installed via wii shop... idk...

[Pete993]

111, do you know if it's possible to not update for Animal Crossing: City Folk, but still use Wi-Fi?  I don't have the game yet I'm just wondering if anyone went through this problem, so I can prepare myself for whenever I get it.

No Wi-Fi works fine. I have the game and I didn't update. I use Wi-Fi all the time and it works fine.

[pi*c]

if the channels have to be downloaded from the wii shop channel then why wasnt the mario kart wii downjoaded from there. it was downloaded from a game but it is still a real channel. maybe just play with the gecko os a little and the wii might reconize it as a real chanel

[111]

I believe that Nuke was working on a GeckoOS channel, but I don't know the current state with that.  I'm not quite sure what you are implying, but more than likely, all unofficial channels will always have to use some form of exploit in order to be installed onto a Wii console.  Therefore, Nintendo would always have the ability to detect and remove them.

[Romaap]

I don't know for sure but wasn't it because Nintendo's chanels use some sort of signature?

[pi*c]

wait if there is some signature then cant we apply it to the gecko os channel so nintendo wont detect it

[111]

No...

Public-key cryptography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
debugmo.de >> Thank you, Datel.
Keys, keys, keys.

I'm not sure on how it works, but there is a key/signature that will sign data.  The signing bug allowed you to install software onto the Wii with a (somewhat) fake signature.  This particular bug has been patched by Nintendo, which means that the whole key would now be required to sign anything.  I forget the numbers, but the chances of brute forcing the key are very slim.

Again, I don't really understand it, so some parts might be wrong.  Hopefully someone who better understands it can explain how it works.

However, even if it was "officially" signed, Nintendo would probably still have the capabilities to detect and delete it.

[Link]

wait if there is some signature then cant we apply it to the gecko os channel so nintendo wont detect it

Nintendo uses safe RSA signatures.. these cannot be forged that easily!