Options missing from Gecko 1.9.3.1

Started by Shadowed State of Mind, September 02, 2010, 02:29:55 AM

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dcx2

You aren't really morphing IOS.  You're using original Nintendo IOS files, up until the patching of IOS36.

All that patching does is copy the bits from the old version of IOS36 that still had the bugs, and puts them in the newer version.  Your IOS36 is still the most recent IOS36, so everything is still okay.

Once upon a time, some people who didn't understand what they were doing thought it might be cool to go through and replace some IOS with other IOS.  For instance, IOS38 is bigger than IOS36, so why not just replace 36 with 38?  Because this can cause bricks, that's why!

The recommended process should always have all the IOS at the latest version when you're done (the exception is IOS41, because your Wii isn't Korean) 

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In my case personally I have most IOS files up to IOS36 in early versions. However, that is a risky process theoretically as every system menu update would overwrite them with new versions. Thus I use preloader (4.1E Wii) to disable disc updates. For other IOS - I install them one after one - difficult way admittedly but it works.

Yes, newer IOS revisions might be safer, however so far I only saw old games using the old IOS - so for now Brawl still works besides my IOS36 being an old trucha-enabled original Nintendo version. So far it does not cause problems. However, I also do not use IOS movings - like replace IOS36 with IOS38. It can cause problems (and it already did in the past).

Basically the only IOS I patched so far were IOS60 and IOS55 - but that was for the Conduit as that game contained a text file for configuration whcih simply caught my attention. It allowed to enable in-game debug menus and such. And well, as I modified the disc for that (my Wii is old and has a modchip so it can play burnt discs natively) I needed a patched system menu IOS (IOS60) and a patched game IOS (IOS55) so that the game would run.

After the fun was over, I modified the IOS back. Before people ask if I have a cIOS - well, yes, also a cMIOS but (except for Gecko OS Mod) they are of no real use to me. I really hope to see more use of HW_ABPROT in the near future - that switch should make many cIOS functions useless you could do them natively then (as the PowerPC has full hardware access when this flag is set). Okay, it won't help software backup loaders but well, I do not officially support them nor do I use them.

Shadowed State of Mind

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I finally mustered up the courage to start...only for an error to appear. After selecting "IOS: 36" this showed up:

Quote>> ERROR! Choose an IOS that accepts fake signing! Press A to continue.

So should I choose "Install IOS36 (v3351) w/FakeSign" after all? If so, are the instructions the same or do I need to do something different? Again, the extra IOSes I got aren't on the SD card. If I DO need them, where on the SD card should I put them? The root? Another folder?

dcx2

Okay, I did a little looking around.  If you have DOP-Mii v13, then you just need the "Install IOS36 with Fakesign" option.  Sorry to confuse you with trying to select an IOS first...

If your Wii is on the 'net, then it should automatically get the right versions of all the IOS and do all the work for you.  If you don't have v13, then you need to install IOS41 *first*, before you launch DOP-Mii.

Shadowed State of Mind

Ah, thanks. My Wii is on the 'net, so I just have to choose one thing right? Should've mentioned that I got the v13 edition.

dcx2

Yeah, do the IOS36 with fakesign and follow the prompts.

Shadowed State of Mind

And I did...sort of. Until it was telling me to download a version of IOS41 that you didn't mention. IOS41 v3348. Wasn't it supposed to be v2835 or did you really mean the former version? Its giving me a choice to either cancel, download from NUS, download from USB storage, or download from SD card. I canceled...then another prompt came, telling me to download IOS43...I don't remember the version but again that wasn't mentioned in your instructions. Were there more changes to DOP-Mii that you didn't know about or am I supposed to keep canceling until I get the prompt telling me to download the correct IOS? Thankfully, I managed to get back to the System Menu before I accidentally downloaded a conflicting IOS or something.

dcx2

Only Korean Wiis use IOS41 so you wouldn't have to worry about that.

I went looking again, and it appears that 3348 is actually correct.

Apparently DOP-Mii will go in search of a suitable IOS that can downgrade IOS15.  Since you declined IOS41, it went to 43.

Shadowed State of Mind

So I have to download that Korean IOS then? From what you say nothing strange will happen if it ends up on an American Wii. If so, I take it that the "download from NUS" option works best? If so, there might not be any need to put the IOSes I got via the NUS Downloader (the one for the PC) in the SD card.

dcx2

Correct, download IOS41 from NUS.

If you download them on the PC, I think they go in the "WAD" folder at the SD root.

Shadowed State of Mind

Whew, I went through the prompts (didn't have to reset after all!) and now its telling me to patch IOS36 v3351. I chose yes, but now it wants me to apply NAND Permissions Patch. Should I or is it unnecessary?

dcx2

The only thing you *need* is Identify.  fakesign aka trucha is a bonus.  Not really sure what NAND permission patch is for...I don't think you need the NAND permission patch, but I don't think it's bad.


Shadowed State of Mind

YES!!

IT WORKS! The Gecko OS AND the cheats!! Thank you so much!! If the app stops working due to another update to the System Menu I'm DEFINITELY coming by here. Once again, thank you for your patience!!

dcx2

You're probably thinking to yourself "man, that wasn't so hard, why is everyone so paranoid?"

BTW, you never ever have to update the System Menu.  It is an entity separate from the various IOS. 

Don't use the Disc Channel anymore, ever.  If you get a new game that requires a new IOS, use Gecko OS.  It will download only the new IOS, but not the System Menu.

Shadowed State of Mind

Wait wait, don't use the Disc Channel? As in, the channel used for Wii and Gamecube games? I DO have stuff I want to play through that as well and I rather not be a full-on pirate. I just wanted to experiment with a cheat or two. And suppose the System Menu actually updates with something useful again (though the SD Menu is arguably the only useful addition unless they add USB storage support).