System Menu 4.3 - 06/21/2010

[James0x57]

Nintendo hates us game hackers too.
They sued Game Geine (a cheat device like GameShark/ActionReplay/Codebreaker) in the early 90's and lost the lawsuit.
After Game Geine won they tried to play nice and get an official license from Nintendo but Nintendo denied it.
That point in out history is significant for 2 reasons; 1: it makes it pretty clear that all Game Hacking devices will be unlicensed (and thus need to run off exploits), and 2: it makes it legal for game hacking devices to exist and be used.

[mrdefender]

If nintendo lost the lawsuit to gamegenie, wouldn't that mean that they found the GameGenie to be legal?

[zfan121]

lol now that i have homebrew channel, when I see the update thing I think this XP

*You've got mail*
Nintendo: Due to illegal operations and software exploits we've updated our firmware that does not benefet you and just stops the annoying hackers from supposidly ruining our games.


Nintendo just give up, hackers are presistant and clever little asses you won't ever be able to stop.  Besides, they should only be erasing shit like dvd players and stuff. Gecko OS more or less is basically just Action Replay isn't it? Maybe somebody should just liscenes it, pattent it and then charge money for it and call it the new action replay. Cause nintendo didn't give shit about action replay at all....

Yeah seriously Nintendo! They have no idea do they, they'll never give up. And I'm suprised Action Replay hasn't thought of such a thing like this. XP

I still think nintendo should only really be worried about the stuff that actually DOES modify the wii. Like the stuff as in the DVDX player, and the mp3 player though the mp3 player is harmless the dvd player could be used to pirate cd's etc. CODES however, jeeze, I mean god, why make games if we can't cheat at em? XD

EDIT: James, that second point kinda contradicts itself don't it? Cause Action replay and code junkies have been doing codes and stuff that are similar to the Gecko OS. The only difference is that it's licenced, paid for/sold, and packaged in a neat plastic container that adds waste to the world lol

[111]

Action Replay is not licensed by Nintendo, and from this standpoint, is no more official than GeckoOS.  If you look on the Action Replay disc and/or Action Replay packaging for the GameCube, you will not find a "Nintendo Seal of Quality" on it.  I even believe that newer GameCube systems block older versions of the GameCube Action Replay from running on them, but I can't confirm that.  GameShark was also not licensed by Nintendo, and I remember that some of the newer N64 games didn't even work on the GameShark that I had, while others required a keycode.

Also, with the 3.3 System Menu, Nintendo already blocked the Datel Wii Freeloader from being used.  This was also not licensed by Nintendo.

[justin28]

Gamecube action reply disk still works on 4.3e which is great , i have tested it and i have a newer gamecube and all the action replay disks work on the newer version of gamecube.

[James0x57]

If nintendo lost the lawsuit to gamegenie, wouldn't that mean that they found the GameGenie to be legal?

Yeah, that's exactly what I said..

@zfan121 No, it doesn't. Nintendo can choose at it's own will what gets licensed and what doesn't.

[WiiRd Gamer]

Nintendo channel needs to have the 4.3 update in order to work.  Anyone know how to fix this yet?

[Dark Chaos]

how's that and could i get a link to the vid please

[justin28]

Does anyone know if or when a new hackmii installer will be released.  I bought lego indiana jones so i can install the homebrew channel again

[WiiPower]

svpe said on #wiidev that they already have a new exploit that allows them to install stuff. I can't say if he was kidding at that moment or not. Well if it's true, i would say it will take at least another week until the new installer is released, this time TT wants to add more code to the installer that hides how their exploit works.

But you can get the HBC already, it's just not easy. At first you need to install a korean IOS(lowest possible version), then go Trucha Bug Restorer. And then install the IOS36 from 4.2.

[Skiller]

im now on 4.3 nothing much new with it .. just no asking me to update with a few things
i went from 4.0 to 4.3 using the "Safe Updater" wiird and everything works. so im happy
but incase something down the road and i need to Downgrade i do have the 4.0 Nand Dump and also a 4.3 since i was messing with it using Sneek

[biolizard89]

Nintendo hates us game hackers too.
They sued Game Geine (a cheat device like GameShark/ActionReplay/Codebreaker) in the early 90's and lost the lawsuit.
After Game Geine won they tried to play nice and get an official license from Nintendo but Nintendo denied it.
That point in out history is significant for 2 reasons; 1: it makes it pretty clear that all Game Hacking devices will be unlicensed (and thus need to run off exploits), and 2: it makes it legal for game hacking devices to exist and be used.

Forgive me if I'm mistaken (it's been quite a while since I read up on this), but while Nintendo sued Game Genie, I believe Sega was so impressed with the Game Genie for the Genesis/MegaDrive that they approached Galoob (the developers of Game Genie), offered them a license and devkit, and started encouraging the writers of official strategy guides for games to include Game Genie codes.  So while all Nintendo game hacking devices will be unlicensed, that was not the case for all console makers.  Too bad Sega left the hardware business, one of the reasons I liked them was their hacker-friendly policies.

[zfan121]

I think nintendo should say something like this on their update screen.
wii menu version 4.3 is now available for your wii console. select update at bottom of your screen.
The purpose of this update is made to delete your homebrew channel, custom channels, and screw up your Cios's and ios's. There are no new features because we can't think anything positive to add. Again, if you want "behind-the-scenes fixes, and your homebrew channel deleted, please select update at the bottom of the screen. Thank you for your cooperation, and we look forward to your Wii console back the way you had it when you bought it. Except this time no homebrew. HAHAHA!
Nintendo

No more like this in the licence agreement.

"If you choose to accept then we are allowed to update the hardware of the wii to prevent HARMLESS soft mods and Homebrew from ruining our super cool games and making them lass fun.(yeah right XP) We can say you can't use nintendo channel or shop channel as well, but you don't need those do you? Also be aware that all future updates will ONLY be wasted attempts to stop homebrew from running on our precious precious Wii. Which you bought and now have license to do with however you please."

XD

[justin28]

Does anyone know how close we are to getting a new hackmii installer that is compatible with 4.3e.  I hope it will be compatible with Lego Indiana Jones again

[Aeroclaw]

Such use may be illegal, voids any warranty, and is a breach of this agreement. Such use may also lead to injury to you or others or cause performance issues or damage to your Wii Console or the Wii Network Service.

Chapter III: Updates/Changes

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Oh. Just because we have homebrew,there gonna give us a headache. Oh im so scared. NOT!