System Menu 4.3 - 06/21/2010

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cocacolafire - Nintendo knows this isn't going to stop piracy.  They just want to give customers a headache.  They want the uneducated masses to be afraid of using unsigned applications.  To that end, they succeed.

111 - You know all those End User License Agreements (EULA, "yoo-lah") that we like to avoid reading?  To know the truth, you'd have to carefully read that. 

From the Nintendo Wii EULA:...

Thanks for that.  However, wouldn't you still own the actual hardware?  I don't know, but it would make sense to me (in a way) that you have a license to use the software, but don't actually own it.  Would you just have a license to the hardware as well?

This is not really related to Nintendo, but what about Sony?  In case you don't know, Sony removed a feature ("OtherOS," I believe) from the PlayStation 3, and there have since been numerous brought up against them for it.  The main claim is that it was an advertised feature of the PlayStation 3.  If this applies to Sony products as well, do those people basically have no argument?

imagine nintendo puts a little "gift" in disc updates like the new zelda game which FORCES you to update and they refuse to let you play it without updating, and preloader's/priiloader's skip update option does not work.

You can just use startpatch to block the need of disk updates, this only works with menu versions 3.2 through 4.2 though.
You must get the startpatch that is made for the version of your wii or it might brick, otherwise it's fine, here is a link for all the versions of startpatch you can download: http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Startpatch#Download 

You misunderstood my point. nintendo's update is new. startpatch is older. what if nintendo disables it from working and forces a disc update? What if they bypass it? (probably not going to happen, but things to think about)

Apparently, there are already some Priiloader hacks for 4.3, along with a "safe" 4.3 updater.  I'm not linking to that site, though.

I might try the 4.3 updater on SNEEK later on, if possible.  However, I see no point.  I updated to the 4.3 System Menu on SNEEK, and there really is no positive difference at all between it and 4.2.

So how do you install the homebrew channel on 4.3e will bannerbomeb be fixed

Right now, you can't install the Homebrew Channel on an official 4.3 update.  Also, from what I've heard, Bannerbomb is likely gone for good.

[justin28]

Can you use the smash brothers exploite on a pal wii

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Can you use the smash brothers exploite on a pal wii

No, Stack Smash was attempted to be ported on PAL and NTSC-J but it won't work there!

[justin28]

Do you think they will fix bannerbomb

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Do you think they will fix bannerbomb

According to all information I have bannerbomb is indeed fixed and this time it's been done properly! So no coming back.
Pretty much like the Twilight Hack which came up with 3.2, survived 3.3, kinda survived 3.4 because of stupidity.
And bannerbomb came up with 3.4/4.0, survived 4.1 and again survived 4.2 because of stupidity. However, I do not think it will return!

[wombat_831]

Wii Menu 4.3

Unauthorized Modifications
Because unauthorized channels or firmware may impair game play or the Wii console, updating to Wii Menu version 4.3 will check for and automatically remove such unauthorized files. In addition, there are some behind the scenes enhancements that do not affect any prominently-used features or menus but will improve system performance.[/size]

can anyone tell me how this will impair game play or the wii console as ive never had any problems nintendo must think we are idiots to believe that crap

[111]

Source:  http://www.hackmii.com/2010/06/system-menu-4-3-update/

It’s been a quiet few months around here — Nintendo seems to have been neglecting the Wii. We expected to see a firmware update bundled with Super Mario Galaxy 2, but found no such thing — however, a few weeks later, we have ourselves a brand new 4.3 update. As usual, Nintendo describes the update as:

   

June 21, 2010

    Wii Menu 4.3

    Unauthorized Modifications

    Because unauthorized channels or firmware may impair game play or the Wii console, updating to Wii Menu version 4.3 will check for and automatically remove such unauthorized files. In addition, there are some behind the scenes enhancements that do not affect any prominently-used features or menus but will improve system performance.

    If you are seeing “Error:004,” please click here.

What a disappointment… this is just a rehash of, well … every update in the past 2 years, except for the 4.0 update (which actually added some features). The only thing that will drive people to install this update will be the broken Shopping channel and hypothetical future games which will come with this update on disc.

Anyway, here’s the technical changelog — much of this can be seen in the last few Wiimpersonator reports.

IOS

    * Fixes in all versions — the 2 exploits we were using in the HackMii Installer, as well as the /tmp bug that has existed forever and a half and been used by everyone else to downgrade IOS. Updated existing IOSes (9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 21, 22, 28, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 53, 55, 56, 57, 61)
    * Added two new IOSes — IOS80 and IOS58. IOS80 continues the trend of a new IOSx0 for each system menu, and IOS70 was stubbed out. IOS58 was previously only found on one disc, and is interesting because it contains an EHCI (USB2.0)
    * Added a stub IOS that will finally overwrite BootMii/IOS with a higher version number.

System Menu

    * Updated to block title IDs — HAXX, JODI, DISC, DISK
    * Updated to *really* block Bannerbomb – shows Error 004 now

So there’s nothing interesting at all in this update. Just the usual bugfixes. They do get credit this time to actually block exploits. The Bannerbomb block seems to be stable this time and they didn’t leave our privilege escalation exploit unfixed like in the last update.

We’re currently working on new exploits and a new release of the HackMii installer but we’ll spend some more time to obfuscate our exploits this time to make it harder for ninty to find and fix them. It might therefore take some more time until our next release.
Just don’t update – there’s nothing interesting in this update anyway.

[zfan121]

Sooo what they mean by impair my gameplay experiance is the occasional freezing of the game at a possibly inconveniant time? Big woop, honestly, nintendo should just give up and make homebrew channel an acceptable version of action replay for the wii lmao. Or make some action replay ish channel like that so the scardy cats dun have to mod their system to get homebrew style fun with the games at least XD

[justin28]

Does the Lego Indiana Jones hack still work

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Does the Lego Indiana Jones hack still work

Yes, Indiana Pwns and the Smash Stack both still work.

[justin28]

Trouble is smash stack doesn't work on a pal wii wish it did as i have super smash brother brawl surely someone could covert it into pal format.

[111]

Trouble is smash stack doesn't work on a pal wii wish it did as i have super smash brother brawl surely someone could covert it into pal format.

That's true with the Smash Stack.  However, Indiana Pwns works for all regions, except Korean.  Right now, I think that Indiana Pwns the only option for people on either the 4.3E or 4.3J System Menu.

[justin28]

I take it the game i need is Indiana Jones the original adventures.

[KamenRiderGumo]

So, how does one use DOP-Shop to update the Wii Shop Channel? I've got some VC/WiiWare stuff I want to download and I am NOT going to use their update service to get into the Shop Channel.

[WiiRd Gamer]

Yes it does update the wii shop channel without getting rid of the Hombrew channel, or updating your wii to 4.3. 
If you get dop-shop, install shop channel v19.
Download link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PBCLFCKV