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Title: How to get hacker status
Post by: Link on March 14, 2009, 10:17:27 PM
In the old forums, we announced everyone hacker who posted codes.
This time, you need to be hacker to post codes. So there is a new system to decide whether you can be hacker:

Please apply for the Hacker Checker at http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/extra/hackcheck.php (http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/extra/hackcheck.php) .

What do I get for Hacker status?
You get access to the code posting areas, you can put codes there, and all you like! Hackers also have one super secret sub forum which I do not want to talk about. So get some hacker status?

Wait, wait? Does that mean I can apply for hacker status without having any posts?
Yes but your account is gonna be removed for inactivity after 3 months! >:D

How do you test I am worthy to hack?
The check tests a few of your abilities. All hackers should have those:
Of course you're only asked questions about games YOU have. Everybody in Europe and NA has Wii Sports! Everybody who has the HBC has Zelda. If you have a modchip and installed HBC that way. Get Zelda some other way but you need it.

But but.. but
This test is not melt in iron! In case your Wii Sports disc is broken or you really do not have Zelda as you're a modchip geek. Contact me directly and we're going through some simple PM questions - tell me a little bit about your Wii knowledge and you're certainly going to get hacker status.

I found the results of X, now I can cheat
Just to note you: 15 out of 16 questions are randomly diced together. It is close to impossible you'd get the exact same questions!

Problems?
Is this system bad? Is it good? This topic is open for discussion!
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Fred on March 15, 2009, 12:53:35 PM
Even though i have already received a hacker status i will take this test, even how bad the results may be.
With a new system i believe old hackers also need to be tested, and i will do this as an example.
I know i can manage to work out solutions when working with codes i want to do for the games i want to do, but we hackers should really be up for making codes for any game. That's what ill have to say, wish me good luck.

EDIT/Add: Finished the test, i don't think i should have mistaken anything here but if not ill just re-read previous guides to avoid anymore confusion. Send my results anyways, i dumped mem dumps for both games just in case.

I agree with the new system.
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Jassim on March 15, 2009, 01:13:44 PM
i have one issue with this, someone may simpyl give their friend all the answers so they can get a hacker status without that person even making any codes
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Fred on March 15, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Jassim is correct in a way here, i think this test should be something people should pass thought. But i hope the hackers in our community can respect the situation and just link the hackers to the usbgecko.com links and tell them to read, i have nothing against the fact that we should help future hackers in the start but not purely with this test. You have to remember that with any internet test or graded homework people can help you, even work but you dont earn experience in the long run... thus you wont be able to make much useful codes anyways.
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Link on March 15, 2009, 02:30:45 PM
15 out of 16 questions are randomly generated.. so the questions cannot be answered if you just copy paste the results
the RAM addresses are also random, the test decides for an address in known static memory of Wii Sports and Zelda Twilight Princess.. as all data is random it is not too easy to actually cheat it!

@Fred: I checked your result, you're absolutely out of question with hacker status.. all base questions correct, one error on a Wii Sports related question.. but that might also mean that the random number generator in the end hit an address which wasn't as static as expected.
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Jassim on March 15, 2009, 04:56:35 PM
but then again, they can ask theyre friend to work out the answers for them, i mean its entirely up to you but in my opinion this isnt a very good system and were better off going back to the old one
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Link on March 15, 2009, 05:16:14 PM
Quote from: Jassim on March 15, 2009, 04:56:35 PM
but then again, they can ask theyre friend to work out the answers for them, i mean its entirely up to you but in my opinion this isnt a very good system and were better off going back to the old one

If you find a way to prove people did not steal codes? That was the problem.. I prefer fakers with hacker title who do not hack rather than people stealing codes to gain hacker status and in the end getting people from another forum thinking they have to hack use because of code stealing!

Besides: I am watching hacker accounts.. if you do not post any hacks then you're getting the title removed as quick as you get it.

And additionally: these "friends" need to have a USB Gecko.. so a random MSN guy "Hey can you help me" won't be able to help at all. If you find a friend with a USB Gecko who helps you cheating through that system.. then you're lucky!
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Jassim on March 15, 2009, 05:20:58 PM
ok that seems fair.

can i just add you can still post a poll in the collective, you might wanna go around and fix it if you want to.
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Link on March 15, 2009, 05:36:43 PM
Thx, yeah of course that's not the way intended!
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: hetoan2 on March 15, 2009, 11:55:11 PM
you might want to disable guests from voting in thank you's because there is some noob that is just thanking everything.

I'd do it myself but meh

it's not even in a package setting. mods could change it before.

Just letting you mods know if you guys see this post first :|

Post Merge: March 16, 2009, 12:46:07 AM

Hey... just wondering.  How do you get an account on the usbgecko.com/codes site?

And just a comment. I've never had one person give me someone elses code when asking for hacker status. I have ALWAYS made them post it in a support thread and then have moved it over. People would notice more if they saw someone steal credit in public. PLUS it's not too hard to search for the code before giving away mod status.

just my 2 cents.

BTW.... you can get EVERY value you'll ever need from the USB Gecko memdump server which BTW has it's password leaked thanks to a certain number of hacking attempts...

All someone would need is a calculator, a memdump, and a friend to give em an answer on the WiiRD About page and they're in..

You'd never know because the Test is too easy.  If I were to make a test like that I'd at least make them not obvious questions that can be figured out by reading the codetype page and a few google searches ;D

For Once I think I agree with Jassim. Personally, I don't think giving out access to a forum with server information would have been a good idea. I realize that it's now on a different server and it's not as deadly as before, but that's the kind of thing that would have been a big loophole only a month ago.

I'm sorry i'm just a bit angry.... not sure why.
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Link on March 16, 2009, 07:12:29 AM
Quote from: hetoan2 on March 15, 2009, 11:55:11 PM
you might want to disable guests from voting in thank you's because there is some noob that is just thanking everything.

I'd do it myself but meh

it's not even in a package setting. mods could change it before.

Just letting you mods know if you guys see this post first :|

Post Merge: March 16, 2009, 12:46:07 AM

Hey... just wondering.  How do you get an account on the usbgecko.com/codes site?

And just a comment. I've never had one person give me someone elses code when asking for hacker status. I have ALWAYS made them post it in a support thread and then have moved it over. People would notice more if they saw someone steal credit in public. PLUS it's not too hard to search for the code before giving away mod status.

just my 2 cents.

BTW.... you can get EVERY value you'll ever need from the USB Gecko memdump server which BTW has it's password leaked thanks to a certain number of hacking attempts...

All someone would need is a calculator, a memdump, and a friend to give em an answer on the WiiRD About page and they're in..

You'd never know because the Test is too easy.  If I were to make a test like that I'd at least make them not obvious questions that can be figured out by reading the codetype page and a few google searches ;D

For Once I think I agree with Jassim. Personally, I don't think giving out access to a forum with server information would have been a good idea. I realize that it's now on a different server and it's not as deadly as before, but that's the kind of thing that would have been a big loophole only a month ago.

I'm sorry i'm just a bit angry.... not sure why.

I wonder.. according to settings, Guest thank yous are disabled.. even the database verifies it for all users.. seems like some nasty bug in the script.. for the hacker test.. I realize memdumps allow to pass it - do I care? Not really - it is just intended to be an extra instance of checking.. yet people with ramdumps could even do codes and well.. as mentioned.. I prefer people having hacker status who cheated rather than people who stole codes and getting hacker status that way. So in the end make the hack test and steal codes unfortunately still work, however in that case we could tell people, we're sorry because we actually do a basic check. However.. if you search for the totally secure webpage.. then it does not exist.

The test indeed is supposed to be easy.. dead easy to admit the truth. However, looking at beginner codes many of them really only use 04, 02 and 00 codes.. asking a beginner "What's the code type to add assembly to [pointer address]+558" would just scare them out. Besides I already mentioned..  And before with the code system I went the same way with support thread and moving over but that didn't work before and that won't work now anymore.

For access to usbgecko.com/codes - please contact James0x57 for access.

I changed the passwords to the memory dump area.. I realize it was a hole, however, I want to continue that area.. When trying to port codes, there's nothing better than a ramdump.. in my former times of a Gamecube hacker it was often not too easy to get to them and therefore I decided to go for a central upload area. I admit.. when it was created the forums were still at usbgecko.com - when moving them to my server, I simply forgot about it.. and left it open with all accesses enabled.. including script upload.. right now, even though it's at another server, script upload works, but script execution is impossible. Which I admit, should have been done in the first place.

Why didn't I do? Who'd expect it.. I ran hundreds of forums.. and even the beloved vBulletin forum Nuke used is pretty to easy to hack, there are several known holes. And that applies to 99% of all forums in the world.. even webpages which are 100% accessible to only their administrator are hackable.. notice how often microsoft.com was hacked in the past. Just I seriously do not care on how people hacked.. what I wonder is: why? What did attract them.. was it the anti cheating club? Or as all people were telling people who felt offending for maybe stealing their codes. I ignore if the codes were stolen or not.. it was just people guessed they were - and if that's reason enough.

Personally I am fed up to even say the least.. so if it happens again.. download to database.. download to forum files.. PUBLIC.. and locked.. if people want to do lame copies.. okay! It's just that I didn't want the codes to disappear.
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: ssbbdude57 on March 16, 2009, 12:37:59 PM
Link where do code suggestions go?  ???
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Fred on March 16, 2009, 12:45:27 PM
Code suggestions are now allowed in the code discussion threads (Support), correct me if i am wrong Link.
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Link on March 16, 2009, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: Fred on March 16, 2009, 12:45:27 PM
Code suggestions are now allowed in the code discussion threads (Support), correct me if i am wrong Link.

Nothing to correct! Please check however if a game is listed there.. or well, if you know a hacker who might do it, contact him/her directly but only once!
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: sg_06 on March 20, 2009, 07:59:30 PM
I agree that a test like this is a good idea, though it was kind of intimidating for a moment. ("You want to post some codes? Sure, after you take this test.") 

My problem would be the 3 month limit. I tend to only hack when I get time off from school, (i.e. spring break right now)...
It wouldn't be fun having to take the test every time I find something worth sharing.  :\
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: hetoan2 on March 20, 2009, 08:14:23 PM
just make a spam post every 2 months and you'll be fine :D


Or you could just help someone out every once in a while.

I'm sure Link could put you on an exception list if you asked.
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Link on March 20, 2009, 10:21:50 PM
Quote from: sg_06 on March 20, 2009, 07:59:30 PM
I agree that a test like this is a good idea, though it was kind of intimidating for a moment. ("You want to post some codes? Sure, after you take this test.") 

My problem would be the 3 month limit. I tend to only hack when I get time off from school, (i.e. spring break right now)...
It wouldn't be fun having to take the test every time I find something worth sharing.  :\

Only accounts never doing any post for 3 months get deleted.. 1 post lurkers get deleted after 6 months.. 2 posts+ and you're safe!
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: hetoan2 on March 20, 2009, 10:43:45 PM
YES! I'm in the clear :D

... not that i'm saying i'll never post again :|
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Kamek on April 07, 2009, 01:35:20 AM
Is a perfect score required for hacker status?

Can the test be re-taken?
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Link on April 07, 2009, 07:35:39 AM
Quote from: Kamek on April 07, 2009, 01:35:20 AM
Is a perfect score required for hacker status?

Can the test be re-taken?

A perfect score is not needed and the test can be re-taken once it was reviewed.. I just reviewed your test, there was only one error inside:

       Question: What code would you use to write a 16 bit value to address 811BD12E?
Expected answer: 031BD12E or 131BD12E
   Given answer: 021BD12E


A very common error, as many people believe they have to change the ba to reach 81000000+ addresses. Anyway, everything else was good!
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Jassim on April 08, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
i know i havent posted a code in ages, im so sorry but ive been piled with a crap load of revision and coursework since i have exams really soon.

ill honestly start hacking  again as soon as i have time and thank you not taking away my hacker status despite the fact i havent made a code in ages
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Benedict on April 10, 2009, 08:19:58 PM
do you need an USBGecko to take this test?

Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Benedict on April 10, 2009, 08:28:25 PM
I just don't get this whole thing... I only test codes really, not make them.

If I did buy a USBGecko I proberly would not be able to use it. This is all just too complicated...  :(
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Romaap on April 10, 2009, 10:26:41 PM
You need an USBgecko if you want to be a hacker
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Jassim on April 10, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
sorry benedict but testing codes doesnt make you a hacker.
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Link on April 11, 2009, 08:17:36 AM
Seems like the usual GBATemp users who think they hack by using Ocarina...
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Benedict on April 13, 2009, 05:18:51 PM
Yes, I know. Hacking looks easy, but its not, is it? I mean, looking at the tuts it looks just so  ???
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Maniac on April 13, 2009, 06:26:30 PM
Quote from: Benedict on April 13, 2009, 05:18:51 PM
Yes, I know. Hacking looks easy, but its not, is it? I mean, looking at the tuts it looks just so  ???
Once you get used to it and know what you're doing its not hard at all but when you first start you kinda feel lost on some things.. (from what I've experienced.. :\)
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: ssbbdude on April 19, 2009, 11:05:25 AM
Link, shouldn't you change the bit where it says "Two secret areas"? too one?
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: matt123337 on April 19, 2009, 01:16:12 PM
Quote from: Maniac on April 13, 2009, 06:26:30 PM
Quote from: Benedict on April 13, 2009, 05:18:51 PM
Yes, I know. Hacking looks easy, but its not, is it? I mean, looking at the tuts it looks just so  ???
Once you get used to it and know what you're doing its not hard at all but when you first start you kinda feel lost on some things.. (from what I've experienced.. :\)
Still how I'm feeling :D
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Link on April 19, 2009, 04:37:24 PM
Quote from: ssbbdude57 on April 19, 2009, 11:05:25 AM
Link, shouldn't you change the bit where it says "Two secret areas"? too one?

True, one of them became the Gecko 1.8 forums.. thanks for pointing out!
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Jassim on April 19, 2009, 06:31:17 PM
psst, still 2
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: ssbbdude on April 19, 2009, 06:38:27 PM
yea its 2 now lol sorry
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Link on April 19, 2009, 07:34:42 PM
lol, true *gg*

I didn't modifiy it however now.. because one of those two is not supposed to stay secret, the other one is secret and will remain secret forever!
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: ssbbdude on April 19, 2009, 07:42:49 PM
o yea true lol
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: matt123337 on April 20, 2009, 12:07:18 AM
where does it say 2?
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: milw0rm on April 21, 2009, 04:41:04 PM
ok, it's a well idea with the test, link, but the "convert hex into dec" vise-versa is simply silly.... you need only to open calc.exe and nothing more. no thinking, nothing. And questions about an assembler command are useless, too. i open a book and read them ^^ It's to easy. A "time clock" plugin would be cool: you have only 30min. time to solve this test - like in school! A daily test for hackers to test and train your personal skills would be the best, of course :D
My USBGecko is destroyed now... so, i can't do anything with it. hope i can repair it soon :-)
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Maniac on April 21, 2009, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: milw0rm on April 21, 2009, 04:41:04 PM
ok, it's a well idea with the test, link, but the "convert hex into dec" vise-versa is simply silly.... you need only to open calc.exe and nothing more. no thinking, nothing. And questions about an assembler command are useless, too. i open a book and read them ^^ It's to easy. A "time clock" plugin would be cool: you have only 30min. time to solve this test - like in school! A daily test for hackers to test and train your personal skills would be the best, of course :D
My USBGecko is destroyed now... so, i can't do anything with it. hope i can repair it soon :-)
....the point is that you know how to convert it back and forth. I've seen too many idiots that call themselves hackers that don't know the differences between hexadecimal and the regular number system...
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: milw0rm on April 22, 2009, 05:07:38 PM
well, that are the very basics indead ^^
"There are people who understand binary and people who don't." -- my teacher Shub-Niggurrath (accessroot.com)
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Link on April 23, 2009, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: milw0rm on April 22, 2009, 05:07:38 PM
well, that are the very basics indead ^^
"There are people who understand binary and people who don't." -- my teacher Shub-Niggurrath (accessroot.com)

There are 10 types of people ;)
Yes, it is intended to be basic.. but even basic knowledge is enough to make basic codes.. but basic codes are often worth posting!
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: milw0rm on April 23, 2009, 03:29:45 PM
...of course. So is there any chance of a weekly exam/test? I think this would improve the tester and the guys writing the test ^^
(need a circuit diagram... gecko damaged, Link. Please help me :-))
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Romaap on April 23, 2009, 03:58:52 PM
i think making a code every week will be a better practice.
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Maniac on April 23, 2009, 06:00:38 PM
Doing something weekly would get very annoying & time consuming honestly.. not everyone has the time to go on there wii every week...
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: milw0rm on April 24, 2009, 05:39:57 PM
... or even every day :D
Naw, this usbgecko. i need a circuit diagramm. can someone draw one for me? please (i am begging lol)
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Shqip_Nick on September 09, 2009, 03:00:57 PM
Well, how do u learn to be a hacker / coder when you dont have the program so you can try.. I really want to learn this stuff :P
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Codyk on September 12, 2009, 11:24:59 PM
nvm link u rock lol i didnt know i could just give u my codes for this lol thx bye
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: _Vuze_ on September 29, 2009, 05:45:49 PM
So, I sent in more than 5 codes and did the hacker test (think everything should be right).
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: nerdy2009kid on October 05, 2009, 12:22:25 AM
Even know i don't have hacker status i want a usb gecko and not because i just want to GET codes to hack i am not a noob at hacking i have already used cheat engine and figured out what values can crash firefox so i think the test should be to hack 3 random flash games so you have infinite of something. I know the difference between between the normal number system and hexadecimal. am i a hacker because i hacked a couple of games using cheat engine.
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Codyk on October 07, 2009, 01:18:39 AM
lol this is not as easy as cheat engine alot difrent then it actually i used cheat engine for years and i get stumped with usb gecko alot so ya games for the internet and games for wii are difrent not to mention difrent coding  another thing is u have to write the code to a basic memory of access u need to know how to pointer scan make pointer adresses for most games u need to know how to write into a 32 bit ram adress and u need to know about float values and hex valuing ur searches if u dont know how to do any of this right u wont be able to hack rly anything till u watch the video tutorial
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Romaap on April 01, 2010, 02:53:22 PM
Err... I think there's a small problem, the file is not on the server...
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Radical Hacker on April 15, 2010, 10:29:12 PM
http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/extra/hackcheck.php...link appears to be broken or not working
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Bully@Wiiplaza on May 01, 2010, 03:54:28 PM
Link doesn´t work -.-
I want to see the hackerclub please :rolleyes:
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: mugwhump on May 18, 2010, 08:13:08 AM
Hacker test seems to be back up, tried it out a while ago, waitin for results. :)

Edit: Hooray!
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Skandal87 on June 30, 2010, 04:20:11 PM
Tried the test, too.

Let's see how it works out :D
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Romaap on June 30, 2010, 04:23:58 PM
Quote from: Skandal87 on June 30, 2010, 04:20:11 PM
Tried the test, too.

Let's see how it works out :D
Congratulations, you passed ;)
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Anarion on September 20, 2010, 03:54:29 AM
I accidentally clicked on "return/enter" and my unfinished score was submitted  >:(
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Bully@Wiiplaza on September 24, 2010, 10:18:55 PM
I´ll complete this test tomorrow, the questions are like jokes :cool:
Title: Re: How to get hacker status
Post by: Deathwolf on September 25, 2010, 09:17:21 PM
haha xD