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Title: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on December 26, 2008, 09:24:49 AM
Okay, I am getting kinda sick about it!

I have got quite a few messages like "I got USB Gecko how do I make codes" or "I got USB Gecko how do I use it" or even worse: "I need 100 ft USB cable because my Wii is so far away".

So general things:
  • you should be at least a little aware how to add external hardware to your PC.. like adding an external flash drive or a webcam and install the required drivers for it. It is not recommended to use the standard driver Windows Vista ships with you should know in general how to update it
  • make sure hacking and code searching is your thing.. WiiRd is a powerful tool but you simply need to be aware what to do with it. Many people just fail at it because they are simply having a hard time to get the general idea on how to use all the stuff! My personal recommendation: get yourself some PC game download Cheat Engine and if you manage to find some addresses in the game using Cheat Engine, then you're clearly ready to go the Wii way - an easier interface is ArtMoney - no matter which one you take, if you manage those tools you manage Wiird! "But me no PC gamer, PC games suxx ass, don't want buy because so shit and it's PC" - die in hell: I am giving advise.. don't buy.. get a freeware game.. hack the amount of rings in Sonic Robo Blast 2... or take whatever freeware game you like.. or get a free game trial version.. if your PC is too shitty to run a game: sorry, I cannot recommend you getting a USB Gecko! I absolutely cannot. And in worst case: even hacking the timer of Minesweeper counts!
    If you have hacked consoles or PC before.. then if you like: get a USB Gecko
  • make sure your Wii is in reach of the PC you'd like to hack it on.. there's absolutely no use in having Wii and PC in two seperated rooms - you should be able to look at your TV.. a solution by the way would also be if you get a capture card (internal or external doesn't matter) to connect your Wii to so that Wii and PC run via the same monitor.. it doesn't matter.. it is just important that you can see the Wii screen and the PC screen by just turning your head and not moving 2 kilometres through your home every time you're checking whether things worked out! Btw: if you have a notebook.. WiiRd and notebooks are absolutely no problem.. connect your USB Gecko to a USB port on a notebook and it's working fine!
  • And even if you have a shitty old notebook.. I programmed WiiRd to use absolutely old command interfaces.. so you can get a Windows 98/ME driver at ftdichip.com (outdated but it will work) and WiiRd will be able to communicate.. some WiiRd GUI features run a little limited (screenshots for example) but in general it will work.

So think about it when you're getting a USB Gecko.. stocks are running low..and it would hurt to see people buying it having no real idea that hacking is indeed tricky while others who'd really have use for it can't get theirs!
Hacking is not like "Connect USB Gecko to become invincible" - you need some basic understanding what's going on there.. in Sonic games you'd just need to set the amount of rings.. in Mario Galaxy you'll obviosly see the power level.. for Zelda.. it's a little trickier but still works (each heart is worth 4 in the memory). Trying out whether you get that idea is easily possible on the PC. It really is: it doesn't cost you money and if you feel it's funny. Great!


Title: Re: USB Gecko buying advices
Post by: Austin on December 26, 2008, 09:45:56 AM
did you make this topic just cause i asked that question? im sorry! i didnt think you'd get mad... :( or does my question have to deal with this at all?


Title: Re: USB Gecko buying advices
Post by: Romaap on December 26, 2008, 10:32:46 AM
Good post Link, that will hopefully stop those questions.

did you make this topic just cause i asked that question? im sorry! i didnt think you'd get mad... :( or does my question have to deal with this at all?
No, its not just you, its more people asking the same questions over and over.


Title: Re: USB Gecko buying advices
Post by: Austin on December 26, 2008, 10:39:39 AM
well my question was if he knew any place that sold usb geckos that were reasonably priced. then he created this so, i was confused


Title: Re: USB Gecko buying advices
Post by: paprika_killer on December 26, 2008, 11:01:12 AM
the title of this topic is confusing as it suggests where to buy an USB gecko, butu nonetheless great guide!

I use a spare windows laptop no problem for this, and the capture card is actually a pretty neat idea


Title: Re: USB Gecko buying advices
Post by: matt123337 on December 26, 2008, 03:14:19 PM
you can also hack online games with CE and AM like adventure quest and dragonfable! thats how I learde (I was 10 at the time so...)


Title: Re: USB Gecko buying advices
Post by: ricky23i on December 26, 2008, 04:59:22 PM
you can also hack online games with CE and AM like adventure quest and dragonfable! thats how I learde (I was 10 at the time so...)
or you can use it on a PSX game, also use hasted ds to make ds codes, for practice


Title: Re: USB Gecko buying advices
Post by: matt123337 on December 26, 2008, 05:11:19 PM
true.


Title: Re: USB Gecko buying advices
Post by: Garonne on December 26, 2008, 05:46:33 PM
I think it might also be useful to say that USB Gecko is not like Acton Replay for GameCube or DS.
You don't simply plug USB Gecko into the Wii and run your game and are invincible.

USB Gecko is more like ArtMoney or CheatEngine on PC (yes, I know, you already said that) not like a ready made trainer for a whole lot of games.

Action Replay is a ready made Trainer (more or less), USB Gecko definitely is not. USB Gecko is quite some work to get it running...
(This is not, because of USB Gecko anyway, it's because the Wii is so damn locked up and it's so difficult to get inside)

Short put: USB Gecko is no plug and play cheating device.


Title: Re: USB Gecko buying advices
Post by: matt123337 on December 26, 2008, 05:56:48 PM
I think it might also be useful to say that USB Gecko is not like Acton Replay for GameCube or DS.
You don't simply plug USB Gecko into the Wii and run your game and are invincible.

USB Gecko is more like ArtMoney or CheatEngine on PC (yes, I know, you already said that) not like a ready made trainer for a whole lot of games.

Action Replay is a ready made Trainer (more or less), USB Gecko definitely is not. USB Gecko is quite some work to get it running...
(This is not, because of USB Gecko anyway, it's because the Wii is so damn locked up and it's so difficult to get inside)

Short put: USB Gecko is no plug and play cheating device.
that hasw been said many times.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on December 26, 2008, 06:19:43 PM
Sorry, I was at relatives.. @Austin: no this topic was not aimed at you, I just got quite a few messages by 0-posters about how to use the USB Gecko as they got it for Christmas or some time before and have just NO IDEA what to do with it..

@ricky23i and matt123337:
Sure, every form of hacking knowledge is okay, I just propsed PC hacking as it is a free entry.. if you find a way into hacking there.. then go for it.

And about that "has been said many times" - if people would actually read it they wouldn't ask how to use it!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: matt123337 on December 26, 2008, 06:26:08 PM
And about that "has been said many times" - if people would actually read it they wouldn't ask how to use it!
good point.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Austin on December 26, 2008, 06:29:49 PM
thats the problem :P people wanna hack so they buy a usb gecko. dont know how to use it, search "usb gecko" at google find this forum make an account and pm you. they no ur the admin cause it says so at usbgecko.com so then you get spammed the same question over and over
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Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: matt123337 on December 26, 2008, 06:31:22 PM
I guess they dont know about [email protected]


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on December 26, 2008, 06:32:17 PM
Nuke's support address would tell them the same.. I just now made this post to have a quick reply ready.. so if people ask me junk on how to use the Gecko they'll first get a link to this page!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: matt123337 on December 26, 2008, 06:34:55 PM
just  question was my USB gecko supost to come with a manual or in a box? I'm asking cuz all I got was a usb cord, driver disk, and the actual USBgecko all held together by 2 elastic bands


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on December 26, 2008, 06:36:45 PM
It should've come in such a box:

(http://www.usbgecko.com/images/usbgecko_box.jpg)

Manual: no!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Austin on December 26, 2008, 06:37:56 PM
its gotta be harsh being a 'leader' of over 3000 members with like 5 ppl joining everyday! 4/5 wanting to know how to work the usb gecko :P

just  question was my USB gecko supost to come with a manual or in a box? I'm asking cuz all I got was a usb cord, driver disk, and the actual USBgecko all held together by 2 elastic bands
doesnt the disk have the manual? or does the manual even exist?


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: matt123337 on December 26, 2008, 06:41:14 PM
It should've come in such a box:

(http://www.usbgecko.com/images/usbgecko_box.jpg)

Manual: no!
It didn't but it still works so... It doesn't matter.  I was just wondering :D

its gotta be harsh being a 'leader' of over 3000 members with like 5 ppl joining everyday! 4/5 wanting to know how to work the usb gecko :P

just  question was my USB gecko supost to come with a manual or in a box? I'm asking cuz all I got was a usb cord, driver disk, and the actual USBgecko all held together by 2 elastic bands
doesnt the disk have the manual? or does the manual even exist?
Yes there is a driver installation manual on the disc but thats it.

minis the actual driver of course.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Austin on December 26, 2008, 06:45:14 PM
I didn't but it still works so... I doesn't matter.  I was just wondering :D
you didnt but it works? you dont matter?

lol


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: matt123337 on December 26, 2008, 07:08:36 PM
I didn't but it still works so... I doesn't matter.  I was just wondering :D
you didnt but it works? you dont matter?

lol
my computer wouldn't pick up t's so thanks for pointing that out (note the t's)


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Austin on December 27, 2008, 05:10:46 PM
lol!

last night i got a wii messege from a wii friend asking if i knew anything about usb gecko. i told him "i know a good bit. why? are you gettin one?" he said,"no but im planning on it. not sure though -_-" i said,"ok well if you decide to get one then find out you dont like it send it to me ill make good use of it" "what?! you dont have one?!" "no... you thought i did?" "of course i did! if you dont have one then how do you hack shit??" then i told him about gecko OS, explained the differences told him what he needed to have to get it and all that stuff. now im waiting on a reply to see if he wants gecko OS :P lol its amazing what people think! i just saved a usb gecko from being bought by someone who has no use for it! XD


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Nuke on December 27, 2008, 06:19:59 PM
Its always shipped from us with giftbox, cd-rom, 1.5m usb cable, inner tray which holds the usb gecko device. The CD rom does have the drivers for all modern windows versions and an install guide how to install the drivers. On the website there is a slightly updated windows driver, but this doesn't affect anything at all, the cd rom version is fine.

There isn't a manual, but there are some guides on the website a faq, a couple of basic hacking guides and a really great video that fox made which is a hands on how he hacks mario galaxy which is a good place to start if you have some interest in hacking games or code making.



Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Nuke on December 27, 2008, 07:18:02 PM
you cant 'hack shit' i.e remote debug / hack with out one, as its the only way to have remote functionality. Gecko OS allows you to use SD cheats, in the same way as ocarina as there the same engine. I like to think there is a difference of hacking and using cheats.

lol!

last night i got a wii messege from a wii friend asking if i knew anything about usb gecko. i told him "i know a good bit. why? are you gettin one?" he said,"no but im planning on it. not sure though -_-" i said,"ok well if you decide to get one then find out you dont like it send it to me ill make good use of it" "what?! you dont have one?!" "no... you thought i did?" "of course i did! if you dont have one then how do you hack shit??" then i told him about gecko OS, explained the differences told him what he needed to have to get it and all that stuff. now im waiting on a reply to see if he wants gecko OS :P lol its amazing what people think! i just saved a usb gecko from being bought by someone who has no use for it! XD


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Austin on December 27, 2008, 07:21:45 PM
true i only said it the way he told me. no one really knows the difference they only think that hacking and hacker means that you cheat.i have no usb gecko i use gecko OS and yet everybody on my brawl list thinks ima hacker. :P ppl r funny!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: REDSOXROX on December 29, 2008, 10:41:12 PM
Nice! :) Hopefully people will look at this...

Hehe, I actually used CE for a while before I got my USB Gecko; so I was sure I could use it!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on January 01, 2009, 09:41:37 AM
yes, as long as people have some knowledge.. it just hurts to hear that people buy it and then recognize "Oh code searching is nothing for me".. and when I recommend people to try it on their PC I hear "Pc gaming sucks".. and well.. if people are that cooperative, then I can't help - I do understand if people prefer console games over PC games (I do play both) however, a simple plain freeware game is 100% sufficient.. if you understand Cheat Engine... you'll understand WiiRd


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jassim on January 01, 2009, 05:00:23 PM
yes, as long as people have some knowledge.. it just hurts to hear that people buy it and then recognize "Oh code searching is nothing for me".. and when I recommend people to try it on their PC I hear "Pc gaming sucks".. and well.. if people are that cooperative, then I can't help - I do understand if people prefer console games over PC games (I do play both) however, a simple plain freeware game is 100% sufficient.. if you understand Cheat Engine... you'll understand WiiRd
quotes like this encouraged me to get a usb gecko
Quote
I've finally finished my guide to making a super code!

It's very detail, yet noob-friendly!

Quote
WiiRd Hacking Tutorial
Learn to hack the Nintendo Wii using WiiRd. No previous hacking experience needed


and to be fair, theyre right, i made my own codes with these guides, but the thing is, these codes are already made, people made em already, as for the super codes, i reckon i can make super codes coz i managed to do it with the NTSC-U version of brawl and now that the breakpoints and values etc. have been ported to the PAL version i THINK that i can soon start making super codes whenever i have the time to.

also some people want usb gecko for chating in gc games like myself, i just need to wait for gecko 2.0

brawl is probably the only game (i know of) with unpredictable codes, which is why I THINK there arent guides for each and every single kinds of codes, e.g theres texture hacks, super codes, camera hacks, amazing codes. etc. etc.
and come on lets face it, the codes for mario galaxy are great but predictable,in other words you can make a guide for mario galaxy hacking whih owuld help you mke codes for lots of other codes (btwim not saying the codes for mario galaxy suk, im saying that the game just isnt made for codes more than infinite starbits infinite this and that.) if you understand what i mean.

i have a usb gecko and belive it or not, as nooby as i am, ive made quite a few codes, but then go to see if theyre already made and they always are. (well for me)

i gues ill have to make super codes for PAL brawl asap.

hope i didnt bore you and i hope you understand my point.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: matt123337 on January 01, 2009, 10:54:44 PM
yes, as long as people have some knowledge.. it just hurts to hear that people buy it and then recognize "Oh code searching is nothing for me".. and when I recommend people to try it on their PC I hear "Pc gaming sucks".. and well.. if people are that cooperative, then I can't help - I do understand if people prefer console games over PC games (I do play both) however, a simple plain freeware game is 100% sufficient.. if you understand Cheat Engine... you'll understand WiiRd
quotes like this encouraged me to get a usb gecko
Quote
I've finally finished my guide to making a super code!

It's very detail, yet noob-friendly!

Quote
WiiRd Hacking Tutorial
Learn to hack the Nintendo Wii using WiiRd. No previous hacking experience needed


and to be fair, theyre right, i made my own codes with these guides, but the thing is, these codes are already made, people made em already, as for the super codes, i reckon i can make super codes coz i managed to do it with the NTSC-U version of brawl and now that the breakpoints and values etc. have been ported to the PAL version i THINK that i can soon start making super codes whenever i have the time to.

also some people want usb gecko for chating in gc games like myself, i just need to wait for gecko 2.0

brawl is probably the only game (i know of) with unpredictable codes, which is why I THINK there arent guides for each and every single kinds of codes, e.g theres texture hacks, super codes, camera hacks, amazing codes. etc. etc.
and come on lets face it, the codes for mario galaxy are great but predictable,in other words you can make a guide for mario galaxy hacking whih owuld help you mke codes for lots of other codes (btwim not saying the codes for mario galaxy suk, im saying that the game just isnt made for codes more than infinite starbits infinite this and that.) if you understand what i mean.

i have a usb gecko and belive it or not, as nooby as i am, ive made quite a few codes, but then go to see if theyre already made and they always are. (well for me)

i gues ill have to make super codes for PAL brawl asap.

hope i didnt bore you and i hope you understand my point.

how does a usbgecko allow you to chat on gamecube games??? did you mean cheat??


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jassim on January 01, 2009, 11:29:28 PM
yes, as long as people have some knowledge.. it just hurts to hear that people buy it and then recognize "Oh code searching is nothing for me".. and when I recommend people to try it on their PC I hear "Pc gaming sucks".. and well.. if people are that cooperative, then I can't help - I do understand if people prefer console games over PC games (I do play both) however, a simple plain freeware game is 100% sufficient.. if you understand Cheat Engine... you'll understand WiiRd
quotes like this encouraged me to get a usb gecko
Quote
I've finally finished my guide to making a super code!

It's very detail, yet noob-friendly!

Quote
WiiRd Hacking Tutorial
Learn to hack the Nintendo Wii using WiiRd. No previous hacking experience needed


and to be fair, theyre right, i made my own codes with these guides, but the thing is, these codes are already made, people made em already, as for the super codes, i reckon i can make super codes coz i managed to do it with the NTSC-U version of brawl and now that the breakpoints and values etc. have been ported to the PAL version i THINK that i can soon start making super codes whenever i have the time to.

also some people want usb gecko for chating in gc games like myself, i just need to wait for gecko 2.0

brawl is probably the only game (i know of) with unpredictable codes, which is why I THINK there arent guides for each and every single kinds of codes, e.g theres texture hacks, super codes, camera hacks, amazing codes. etc. etc.
and come on lets face it, the codes for mario galaxy are great but predictable,in other words you can make a guide for mario galaxy hacking whih owuld help you mke codes for lots of other codes (btwim not saying the codes for mario galaxy suk, im saying that the game just isnt made for codes more than infinite starbits infinite this and that.) if you understand what i mean.

i have a usb gecko and belive it or not, as nooby as i am, ive made quite a few codes, but then go to see if theyre already made and they always are. (well for me)

i gues ill have to make super codes for PAL brawl asap.

hope i didnt bore you and i hope you understand my point.

how does a usbgecko allow you to chat on gamecube games??? did you mean cheat??

oh yh sry, meant cheat, my bad


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: ssbbdude57 on January 01, 2009, 11:42:10 PM
i may hopefully be getting a USB Gecko soon :D


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: matt123337 on January 02, 2009, 12:16:34 AM
thats... nice...


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jumpi95 on January 03, 2009, 04:55:12 PM
Ok, I have hacked computer games and actualy created different hacks no1 has ever seen before. But=/ Its nothing like Brawl. I am still confused 100%


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on January 03, 2009, 05:36:09 PM
Brawl certainly has protections and obfuscinated memory you should try another game.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: DemonParasite on January 03, 2009, 06:12:03 PM
I registered here recently, after reading this post. I've decided to go buy a USB Gecko, as I've been looking into guides, tutorials, and such about it. I remember using Cheat Engine awhile back, to hack those stupid flash games like Stick Arena. Heh, that was back when people hacked SA by themselves, instead of downloading a trainer. Anyway, thanks for this, I decided to buy one after reading this! Heh, I also had to buy 30 ft. of extension cables, as my computer is in the same room, but ~20 feet away, and I don't want it being stretched in the air, or tripping over it.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: hetoan2 on January 03, 2009, 06:17:55 PM
30feet holy crap.

at least you didn't buy a laptop or an extra TV for it...

heh I bought a 42" flat screen to put next to my computer so i wouldn't have to use my laptop.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: DemonParasite on January 03, 2009, 06:20:56 PM
They were dirt cheap on Amazon. The cord was free(1 cent), I just paid 5 dollars for shipping. Sadly, the cord will probably arrive a lot later than the Gecko. How long does it normally take to receive shipments from the GP2X store?


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Romaap on January 03, 2009, 06:25:02 PM
I had mine in less than one week if I remember correctly.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: DemonParasite on January 03, 2009, 07:12:15 PM
According to Amazon, I should get my cords by the 9th. Hopefully they arrive at about the same time...


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Igglyboo on January 03, 2009, 07:49:26 PM
They were dirt cheap on Amazon. The cord was free(1 cent), I just paid 5 dollars for shipping. Sadly, the cord will probably arrive a lot later than the Gecko. How long does it normally take to receive shipments from the GP2X store?

GP2X? Nice choice, I got mine from there.
I received my gecko in about 3 days after placing the order.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: DemonParasite on January 03, 2009, 10:37:22 PM
Heh, that's probably going to frustrate me, getting the extension cords I need a couple days later.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: hetoan2 on January 03, 2009, 10:44:06 PM
i saw some 10ft USB extension cords for 4.99 each at RadioShack today... but I'm not sure if it was on sale...

I would have payed tax even to save time on the shipping.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: DemonParasite on January 03, 2009, 11:01:28 PM
I probably would have done that, I just didn't really want to go out hunting stores for cords. I also wanted to save money.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jassim on January 03, 2009, 11:08:11 PM
oh btw guys, be very very careful if u wanna hack super smash bros brawl its one bloody hard game to hack, after watching all guides, hacking several other games i still had one heck of a tough time hacking brawl. (maybe thats just me but i dunno, im KINDA getting used to it now)


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jumpi95 on January 04, 2009, 07:38:10 PM
oh btw guys, be very very careful if u wanna hack super smash bros brawl its one bloody hard game to hack, after watching all guides, hacking several other games i still had one heck of a tough time hacking brawl. (maybe thats just me but i dunno, im KINDA getting used to it now)
I saw what you did:D It was good hacks. the only one I could have done would probably be the 99 lives one=/ and the multi man ones but the others would be hard for me... :confused:


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jassim on January 04, 2009, 11:39:12 PM
lol, thx a lot jumpi didnt think anyone even noticed i posted them :P thank u ;)


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jumpi95 on January 05, 2009, 02:28:50 AM
XD Your welcome. I should realy use this post as a question...
So there is a video on youtube showing how easy it is to hack a # value. but thats just it. Brawl has Action. How do I change a action(Such as a player)
to a #? The codes you did are a great example of a # one. Great codes though.
Havent tried them yet :P


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: hetoan2 on January 05, 2009, 02:32:35 AM
in WiiRD there is an Unknown value search. I use it for almost everything, even if it does display numbers (not unless it's something like money).

Then you just do different than last value searches until you get one or two values, poke until you see your results.

BTW Test:

ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!

To express glory to the hypnotoad now just type "@ hypno" without space
Also type hypno flash to FORCE other's love for the hypnotoad. as long as they click the spoiler tag

http://www.j0g.com/14-Futurama-All-Hail-HypnoToad-flash-loop.swf

Also type hypno flash to FORCE other's love for the hypnotoad. as long as they click the spoiler tag


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: REDSOXROX on January 05, 2009, 04:42:29 AM
Now I am glad I have my own laptop as my main cp! :)

Hm, cool, ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!

Unknown searches always take along time though, I try known value search if there's any hint to the number, also like counting backwards

[Star Fox 64 Timer Problem caution]


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: DemonParasite on January 05, 2009, 11:47:56 PM
Did somebody say CP?

Anyway, my Gecko just arrived today! I started doing some stuff with SMG, it's a pretty neat tool. Worth the 50 dollars.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: NintendoLver on January 07, 2009, 05:36:06 AM
You should.  But be careful, some stuff might get blocked...


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: DemonParasite on January 07, 2009, 12:15:09 PM
What?


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on January 07, 2009, 04:15:30 PM
There isn't any known case where a Wii gamer has been banned for modifications.. Microsoft tends to ban users who flashed their DVD drives for their X360 but it is not yet known Nintendo banned anyone. All error messages or related so far were temporary! Meaning: reconnect some time later and it works!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jassim on January 07, 2009, 05:17:36 PM
also is it just me or does usb gecko only work in slot b


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Romaap on January 07, 2009, 05:46:09 PM
it is supposed to only work in slot b


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: ssbbdude57 on January 07, 2009, 05:51:03 PM
why only slot B?


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jassim on January 07, 2009, 06:14:29 PM
probably because most people use slot A for gamecube memory cards and like to keep it that way.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: DemonParasite on January 07, 2009, 08:50:30 PM
Because it works on Gamecubes also, most games read from slot A first, then slot B. If slot B was a Gecko, it wouldn't be able to hold data, and you wouldn't be able to load/save. You'd have to take out the gecko, put in your memory card, load, take it out, put in the Gecko, and do it again when you want to save.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Austin on January 07, 2009, 09:58:22 PM
Because it works on Gamecubes also, most games read from slot A first, then slot B. If slot B was a Gecko, it wouldn't be able to hold data, and you wouldn't be able to load/save. You'd have to take out the gecko, put in your memory card, load, take it out, put in the Gecko, and do it again when you want to save.
i think you got that backwards..... i think ou mean if slot A was Gecko, it wouldn't.....


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: REDSOXROX on January 07, 2009, 10:47:52 PM
Because it works on Gamecubes also, most games read from slot A first, then slot B. If slot B was a Gecko, it wouldn't be able to hold data, and you wouldn't be able to load/save. You'd have to take out the gecko, put in your memory card, load, take it out, put in the Gecko, and do it again when you want to save.
i think you got that backwards..... i think ou mean if slot A was Gecko, it wouldn't.....
No, he got it right.

The Slot A is read first, and if the Gecko was there... it wouldn't read the memory card, and there's a chance the console would auto-power off because of unknown device...


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Romaap on January 07, 2009, 10:51:15 PM
Because it works on Gamecubes also, most games read from slot A first, then slot B. If slot B was a Gecko, it wouldn't be able to hold data, and you wouldn't be able to load/save. You'd have to take out the gecko, put in your memory card, load, take it out, put in the Gecko, and do it again when you want to save.
i think you got that backwards..... i think ou mean if slot A was Gecko, it wouldn't.....
No, he got it right.

The Slot A is read first, and if the Gecko was there... it wouldn't read the memory card, and there's a chance the console would auto-power off because of unknown device...
Austin is right xwink


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Austin on January 07, 2009, 10:55:18 PM
Removed by Hetoan2: Don't post stupid/non sequitur posts!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: REDSOXROX on January 13, 2009, 10:27:23 PM
Removed by Hetoan2: Don't agree with other posts!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Nuke on January 15, 2009, 02:23:21 AM
It can use Slot A too, the EXI bus which the ports use has a different device ID so to speak, so if you change this device ID to slot A it will work.

I can make a config option for which slot to use in Gecko 2.0, what do you think?

The reason for Slot B, is SD Load used Slot A back in the GC times.

let me know about the A, B thing


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: ssbbdude57 on January 26, 2009, 04:32:32 PM
i found this one place to get s usb gecko from its called the game train and you can go pick up what you
ordered from this place 4 free


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jumpi95 on February 12, 2009, 02:44:09 AM
Um, guys, My USBGecko wont work on a certain game. It works on other games but not CoD5... Can someone test it for me? Or is this a bad thread to post this in... :fire:


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: hetoan2 on February 12, 2009, 11:23:24 AM
well, some games have hooking issues.

CoD3 had hooking issues so 5 might also have them...

If you're using a backup that could be why, but we don't do support for pirates.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Romaap on February 12, 2009, 01:27:36 PM
You have to change the hooktype to wiipad


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: wario on February 14, 2009, 01:36:38 PM
why doesnt usbgecko put any pal animal crossing code on there site?


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: ssbbdude57 on February 14, 2009, 01:38:15 PM
usbgecko isnt a person usbgecko is a 3rd party memory card which you put in your wii! it costs people money to hack so they port codes at there own time and own free will


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jassim on February 14, 2009, 01:41:04 PM
lol!!!

anyway , what ssbbdude said, be more appreciative when hackers make codes making a code isnt as simple as plug in usbgecko to get every single code available for this game


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jumpi95 on February 16, 2009, 07:53:09 PM
>_< I know that. Its just that the Ammo in it seemed alot easyer to hack(since it was exact) Then other games so I wanted to try it out. Please dont pick on me;_;


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: milw0rm on April 22, 2009, 04:04:35 PM
WLANUSBgecko would be great ^^ The USBGecko has a USB Interface; someone could try to solder a WLAN Interface (Gateway) and the IC needed for it (see WLAN USB Stick *victim* hehe :-))

My USB Cable is 2.10m long lol


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: REDSOXROX on May 17, 2009, 02:45:49 PM
WLANUSBgecko would be great ^^ The USBGecko has a USB Interface; someone could try to solder a WLAN Interface (Gateway) and the IC needed for it (see WLAN USB Stick *victim* hehe :-))

My USB Cable is 2.10m long lol

If I remember correctly...

it already takes a good bit of time to search through the game's coding with it connected by USB, and that's on a very fast computer...
Using WLAN would take waaay too long, it wouldn't really be worth it.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Romaap on May 17, 2009, 02:57:19 PM
WLANUSBgecko would be great ^^ The USBGecko has a USB Interface; someone could try to solder a WLAN Interface (Gateway) and the IC needed for it (see WLAN USB Stick *victim* hehe :-))

My USB Cable is 2.10m long lol

If I remember correctly...

it already takes a good bit of time to search through the game's coding with it connected by USB, and that's on a very fast computer...
Using WLAN would take waaay too long, it wouldn't really be worth it.
i thought the speed was limited by the wii-side(idk how it was called) not the USB, so i think it wouldn't make that much of a difference.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: REDSOXROX on May 17, 2009, 03:18:04 PM
WLANUSBgecko would be great ^^ The USBGecko has a USB Interface; someone could try to solder a WLAN Interface (Gateway) and the IC needed for it (see WLAN USB Stick *victim* hehe :-))

My USB Cable is 2.10m long lol

If I remember correctly...

it already takes a good bit of time to search through the game's coding with it connected by USB, and that's on a very fast computer...
Using WLAN would take waaay too long, it wouldn't really be worth it.
i thought the speed was limited by the wii-side(idk how it was called) not the USB, so i think it wouldn't make that much of a difference.
Really?
So its possible it could be added?


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on May 18, 2009, 09:15:48 AM
Well, to make it sort..

performing USB Gecko operation using a Wi-Fi protocol would be possible.. however, let me point out the obstacles:

-the internal Wi-Fi would be hard to use.. it wouldn't work in Gamecube mode and the Wi-Fi stack is huge.. fitting that in our tiny 4 KB code handler.. no way! Even GCNrd for Gamecube which used the broadband adapter required 32 KB of memory for its LAN handler
-it wouldn't work if the game uses Wi-Fi
-additionally: all Wii games reset Wi-Fi upon boot (most likely some Nintendo SDK stuff), a few even completely disable it!
-Long USB cables work.. several devices dislike long USB cables, I tested the USB Gecko with 10 metres (30 feet) it is working fine.. other devices like for example a FlatMii do not work you'd need repeater.
-Wireless USB Repeaters exist and they should work.. however they are horribly expensive!

Other options like: USB cross-over.. Ethernet.. all possible but both USB and Ethernet require big protocol stacks while the USB Gecko is simply a high speed serial port where you can directly address the output pins.

We simply do not want the code handler to be larger, we're absolutely happy that we're having a code handler which is sitting in a memory area so far NO GAME uses. Which is a great advantage over the old GCNrd (not that I criticise GCNrd, GCNrd was an absolutely perfectly designed, great application) which had to reside in the memory area 817F8000 to 81800000 and sometimes interfered with the game's file list or similar things!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: corgis4me123 on August 12, 2009, 07:14:03 PM
Okay....I have a question...and I know I am probably not even posting this in the right place but...here I go....

I am totally new to hacking...I have not even really hacked before....on ACCF all I really have is the LiteSaber...I can't walk on the water or anything...

I need someone to explain the homebrew channel or something like it so I can subscribe to it on the Wii...and tell me how to use it....would someone on here PLEASE be able to do that...I want to hack sooooo badly....

Thank you!

-Bethany


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: hetoan2 on August 12, 2009, 08:10:19 PM
@Bethany, no I don't think a USBgecko is quite right for you...

on the other hand you might want to check out some youtube videos. There are ones out there even specifically for using codes on ACCF :o

but on youtube you can find out how to get homebrew channel too. It truly is a valuable resource.... that and google.

I think you might be able to find both guides in the video section on this forum.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Erica on August 28, 2009, 07:04:50 AM
I Have someone willing to sell me their unopened USB gecko because they got it as a gift but never really wanted it so what I was wondering was... Can this still be fully taken advantage of on Wii systems updated to 4.1 or was it really only meant for the older versions?

Would I still be able to use it for EVERYTHING it's capeable of or will some functions be useless on 4.1?
I'm also using a newer PC with WinXP Pro and my Wii has HB, Gecko OS, etc....
Thanks in advance for response ;)



Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on August 28, 2009, 10:36:50 AM
I Have someone willing to sell me their unopened USB gecko because they got it as a gift but never really wanted it so what I was wondering was... Can this still be fully taken advantage of on Wii systems updated to 4.1 or was it really only meant for the older versions?

Would I still be able to use it for EVERYTHING it's capeable of or will some functions be useless on 4.1?
I'm also using a newer PC with WinXP Pro and my Wii has HB, Gecko OS, etc....
Thanks in advance for response ;)

In that case: Gecko OS is htere.. HBC is there.. WinXP.. at least WiiRd together with games will work.. USB Gecko dumping with dumpers.. will work.. so basically: yes, you can use a USB Gecko!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Erica on August 29, 2009, 05:10:26 AM
Thanx! I guess I'll put it to use then!  :)


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Videogamer555 on October 04, 2009, 12:20:51 PM
I'd like to know where I can actually buy the USB Gecko. I have a feeling GameCrazy (and most standard game stores) don't sell this device.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on October 04, 2009, 03:00:03 PM
I have never seen an "offline store" to sell USB Geckos.. you need to check online.. unfortunately the Geckos are out of production so at some places you won't get them anymore!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Shiggity on November 16, 2009, 02:20:59 AM
hey i just got a usb gecko... how do i make codes


j/k


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: magicmaker on November 24, 2009, 09:40:32 PM
Does anyone know where I can get a USB Gecko? I have searched all over the net and can't find one anywhere.

thanks.....


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on November 25, 2009, 06:03:01 AM
Does anyone know where I can get a USB Gecko? I have searched all over the net and can't find one anywhere.

thanks.....

USB Geckos are out of production.. thus.. well, while they still can be found.. it is indeed difficult.. a friend of mine frm USA was unable to find on in US now, we found one in Canada for him. Where do you live? Maybe we can't find a store in your country anymore but if you have no big problems with importing, maybe a close country still has one!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: magicmaker on November 25, 2009, 05:58:29 PM
Does anyone know where I can get a USB Gecko? I have searched all over the net and can't find one anywhere.

thanks.....

USB Geckos are out of production.. thus.. well, while they still can be found.. it is indeed difficult.. a friend of mine frm USA was unable to find on in US now, we found one in Canada for him. Where do you live? Maybe we can't find a store in your country anymore but if you have no big problems with importing, maybe a close country still has one!

I live in USA. It shouldn't be a problem to get one from Canada if I could find a site that sold them.
Thanks


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on November 26, 2009, 05:34:41 AM
http://www.gocybershop.ca/customer/product.php?productid=2031

Canada.. they claim to have them in-stock!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Troytron on December 13, 2009, 01:27:48 AM
"Connect USB Gecko to become invincible"

LOL, thats really funny, cause it actually DOES make you invincible. Just copy paste codes XD. But to make codes is hard. i just got mine yesterday and I have been searching the net for tutorials.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: biolizard89 on December 13, 2009, 11:40:25 PM
"Connect USB Gecko to become invincible"

LOL, thats really funny, cause it actually DOES make you invincible. Just copy paste codes XD. But to make codes is hard. i just got mine yesterday and I have been searching the net for tutorials.
You don't need a USB Gecko to copy/paste codes.  The whole point of a USB Gecko is to make codes.  If you have an unhacked game and want to be invincible, then it is much harder than just connecting a USB Gecko to become invincible.  Hence Link's comment to that effect.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Link on December 14, 2009, 02:26:04 PM
While you can copypasta codes.. as biolizard89 said: It's not the USB Gecko's intention.. it is there to make them.. or to be used for software development..

Still my quote was mostly intended to say: for an unhacked game.. do not expect to just insert the USB gecko and become invincible.. sure, for many games it is easy.. for some others.. invincibility cheats are dead hard!


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: loomy123 on December 25, 2009, 10:40:19 PM
You can buy a usb gecko and a whole bunch of other cool wii stuff at http://www.gp2xstore.com/


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: arnaudh on January 05, 2010, 01:00:49 AM
Hello,
I just received my usb gecko today.
Wiird is an amazing tools and I really want to thanks all the people who did that amazing job.

I tried to find a post who really give some technical tips on how to create code.
Maybe I didn't look enought.
I click on the thread how do i create code , thinking that i would have some answers.

He tooks me 10 minutes to find adresses :
Ghost Squad (EU) RGSP8P , score mission 1 is located at : 805180D0  whatever the value you put
the max value will be : 05F5E0FF if you score one more.

Ghost Squad (EU) RGSP8P , rapid fire ammo located at : 925D8D84.
Seems that the value are 32bits encoded so having 4294967296 bullets instead of 100 is not that bad.

But i think that i need some basic powerpc asm knowledge in order to prevent the value to be decremented instead.

I am using usb loader gx, and created a txt code, using usb loader gx made a gct, launched with ocarina
got a black screen, curently i only got an eee 701 wich is good for wiird , but not really to surf so maybe
i have missed something.

Your point is valid but with a link  for newbie would be better, once i got the first trainer working
i will be happy to post an how to.

You suggest to start with PC and that's what I  don't really get : why is Wii not a good platform to start to do trainer ?
I still don't have something working, it's late will probably try to continue tomorow after work, but with
ocarina embeded in loaders and launchers it seems for me that it's the opposite , Wii is a good platform to start , i probably missed something ?

Arnaud


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Romaap on January 05, 2010, 08:42:46 AM
This video tutorial (http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,508.0.html) will help you getting started.
here (http://wiird.l0nk.org/codetypes.html) is the codetype documentation.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: arnaudh on January 05, 2010, 01:58:57 PM
Thanks a lot. Will have a look at this.

I have found that document :
http://onehitgamer.com/forum/wii-guides/10109-guide-hacking-basic-pointers.html
That I found quite understandable for a newbie like I.



Post Merge: January 05, 2010, 05:15:38 PM
Even better the original posts :
http://members.cox.net/dexter0/WiiHacking/


I know that it has been submited but if some newbie follow the same path than I they have more chance using google to found that post than this site.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: loomy123 on April 17, 2010, 07:32:13 PM
I know, i bought one from there before, but i broke mine and they are out of stock O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: CosmoCortney on August 01, 2010, 09:07:51 PM
hi^^
can I use the USB Gecko, when a game is running on usb loader gx? so can i find codes when a game is loaded from an external hard drive?


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Bully@Wiiplaza on September 27, 2010, 09:57:34 PM
hi^^
can I use the USB Gecko, when a game is running on usb loader gx? so can i find codes when a game is loaded from an external hard drive?
you can, but you won´t get instructions here (no piracy support)

greets... :eek:


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: sevendust on August 31, 2011, 01:30:46 PM
now i am a nuebie and all but i do know how to edit codes and use them i several ways. i do have the homebrew channel on my wii. i was wondering on a scale of 1 to 10...how difficult would it be for me to proceed to a usb gecko?


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Bully@Wiiplaza on August 31, 2011, 05:24:46 PM
important facts are...

- how much experience do you have with codes/programming?
- how hard are you going to work to improve your hacking skills?

The beginning is the hardest part.
Once you reached a decent level, you´ll be able to create most codes you´d like to do.
(took about ~ 1 -1,5 years for me without pre-knowledges except for putting values into codes)
I was probably slow, though...

---

BTW.

100th reply and 1000. post ;D


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Jackalope on November 27, 2011, 01:02:40 AM
Well, I got the Gecko icon to appear on the homebrew channel and tried to use it once but it didn't work, so I stopped for the day. The next day, my brother, being himself, deleted the Gecko app and now I can't get it back. I tried loading the file onto a different SD card and a USB, but it didn't work. What do I do?


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: biolizard89 on November 27, 2011, 03:29:24 AM
Well, I got the Gecko icon to appear on the homebrew channel and tried to use it once but it didn't work, so I stopped for the day. The next day, my brother, being himself, deleted the Gecko app and now I can't get it back. I tried loading the file onto a different SD card and a USB, but it didn't work. What do I do?
You're not really giving much info to go on... what does the directory structure on your SD card look like?  Can your HBC see other apps?


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: WiiPower on November 27, 2011, 09:19:08 AM
And make sure you always use the same usb port for your USB Gecko, or you have to install the drivers again, "because it's another device".


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Fake Code Spammer on April 17, 2012, 04:01:16 AM
I wonder how many usb geckos are left in the world? Probably not much. :o I got mine because I got lucky ^-^


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Clay10 on April 17, 2012, 10:44:21 AM
I wonder how many usb geckos are left in the world? Probably not much. :o I got mine because I got lucky ^-^
there's still the same amount, jut less for sale.


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Segatendo on November 12, 2012, 10:16:24 AM
I wonder how many usb geckos are left in the world? Probably not much. :o I got mine because I got lucky ^-^
there's still the same amount, jut less for sale.
Un..less of course, someone wrecked/destroyed (possibly accidentally) one without mention. Though I assume that is unlikely, because (no idea on this) probably everyone who has one posts here. So how many does exist anyway?

Edit: You know what, I didn't even check the date of when that last post was posted for some reason. *facepalm*


Title: Re: Should I get a USB Gecko or not?
Post by: Bully@Wiiplaza on November 12, 2012, 10:32:12 AM
"Geckos left" is obviously meant as "how many people exist that intend to sell one if they get paid enough to be convinced selling theirs" refering to the topic since this is about getting one.