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The following two tweets were posted on the Twitter of the hacking group fail0verflow.  For anyone who might not know, fail0verflow is pretty much the same group that originally hacked the Wii...


Source:  https://twitter.com/fail0verflow (https://twitter.com/fail0verflow)
Main Site:  http://fail0verflow.com/ (http://fail0verflow.com/)

Nice, let´s all watch Fail0verflowTV on the WiiU tablet. :)

I have to laugh at this because of the fact that there's a program out that will let you watch videos from your PC to your WiiU/WiiU Tablet.  It's not really a hack.  LOL

that's not what this is. it's not a youtube video streamed

fail0verflow is Team Twiizers with more members. Do you think they'd fake something like using premade video?

Well, YouTube is working on the WiiU as well and what I was talking about can be found here - http://www.gamingvlog.net/2012/12/13/how-to-stream-videos-from-your-computer-to-your-wii-u-for-free/ -
No offense, but what's posted in the first post isn't proof of it being hacked - 2 Tweeted posts, a shared picture, their website (which doesn't have much of anything on it) and according to their Tweets, they have a YouTube page! - So, how is this hacking a WiiU?

I do know that the Wii side of the WiiU has been hacked to a point and they're still working on it!

I agree with megazig, fail0verflow doesn't have a history of posting fake news.  I give it at least an 85% chance this is what it claims to be.

I agree with megazig and biolizard.  If fail0verflow says they hacked the Wii U, I believe them.

Anyone else, and I would be right there with Warlock, "show us the exploits or GTFO".  But I believe fail0verflow on their word alone.

EDIT:

I got nostalgic and found the talk Marcan and Bushing gave at 25C3.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyVuY_S5VcI

Interesting thing to note...29C3 is next week.  I so totally hope they give another talk.

Quote from: Warlock on December 19, 2012, 08:32:51 PM
I have to laugh at this because of the fact that there's a program out that will let you watch videos from your PC to your WiiU/WiiU Tablet.  It's not really a hack.  LOL

Quotefail0verflow @fail0verflow
And just to make it clear, this is from a WiiU, not a PC

For what it's worth, normally I wouldn't post tweets and a picture from a Twitter account, and provide that as evidence that a console has been hacked.  However, fail0verflow has a very good reputation with console hacking, such as their work with the Wii (Team Twiizers) and PS3, that I am certainly willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

However, I do agree that I would be interested to hear more about exactly what it is that they have accomplished, if they are willing to share that information, since the tweets do not provide a whole lot of information (hence why I put the question mark at the end of the topic title).  29C3 is coming up, but I don't know if they are scheduled to speak at it or not.

Quote from: Warlock on December 19, 2012, 10:18:13 PMI do know that the Wii side of the WiiU has been hacked to a point and they're still working on it!

As far as I know, the fail0verflow blog was the first site to announce that they had the Homebrew Channel working on a Wii U in Wii Mode...

http://fail0verflow.com/blog/2012/wiiu-teaser.html (http://fail0verflow.com/blog/2012/wiiu-teaser.html)

About a week later, it was announced on the HackMii blog...

http://hackmii.com/2012/12/hbc-release-for-a-new-wii-u/ (http://hackmii.com/2012/12/hbc-release-for-a-new-wii-u/)

They announced yesterday that they´ll be taking a break from Wii U hacking.
www.fail0verflow.com/blog/2013/megafail.html

May be a sign of having failed.
Their last image showed a trollface after all if you made it transparent using a picture editing program.

no, that says marcan took a break to write that blog post

Some news.
http://fail0verflow.com/blog/2013/espresso.html

That was interesting... although kind of depressing for some reason.

It's depressing that he's still calling the PS4 an orbis

this might be interesting:

http://gbatemp.net/threads/shadow-lags-wiiu-hacking-and-development-thread.351575/

it's not. he can't bruteforce a collision on the key with what he's doing. and the ugly condition of the hardware station does not bode well. that and some private info I've read from him looks terrible from an engineering standpoint

"the ugly condition of the hardware station" - cut him some slack, he's still a kid.  It's not like he has a clean room or a hot air rework station.

"some private info" - since when does anyone's private life matter at all in the hacking scene?

"Terrible from an engineering standpoint" - Microsoft really screwed up the XBox 360 with the industry transition to lead-free solder, which cost them a lot of money because of the RROD.  I'd say that's "terrible from an engineering standpoint".

At least the kid is trying.  The worst that happens - he discovers nothing, and there's no harm in him learning on his own.  The best that happens?  We get one or more steps closer to opening the Wii U.  Forgive me if I fail to see what problem you have with him.

At least something. Nobody else seems to care taking action currently anyways.
He may find a way to backup nand which becomes even more useful when there are risky exploits or similar.

Honestly, I've come to agree with marcan.  Living room PCs have made console hacking pretty much irrelevant.  There's so much effort involved in hacking consoles, and that effort could be much more effective if it targeted a platform that isn't fighting you tooth and nail.

I do miss the days of reading PPC ASM, though.  x86 ASM makes my eyes bleed.  But it's so much less stressful when you don't have crap from vendors like M:OM's missile CRC and reboot timers, or Smurfs and that one porno game with their code-handler-killers and deadloops.

he's bricked his wiiu. about what I expected

EDIT: he still claims to have a method to decrypt. this "kid" will be rich as the first person to break AES.
he's not a kid, he's 22

EDIT2: the private info I didn't mean about him personally. but messages he's sent that told his theories and methods. it's not pretty

For the most part, I've come to agree with Marcan as well.  There really aren't any homebrew applications that could be made for the Wii U that couldn't also be made on, say, an Android or iOS device.  That includes programs like emulators for past systems, and media players.  Plus, as he said, it is a constant cat and mouse game with the console manufacturer as they try and prevent unauthorized code from running on the system.  In addition, at this point in time, the vast majority of people would likely use any exploit mostly for piracy purposes (I feel pretty safe in saying that that's all the majority of GBAtemp users care about).

That being said, I still hope the Wii U eventually gets hacked, because I would like the possibility of using cheat codes on games.  Plus, using Wii homebrew as an example, programs like Devolution (GameCube USB loader that runs in Wii Mode) are pretty cool, because they allow you to do things that even official Nintendo software doesn't allow you to do, like playing the Phantasy Star games online through the Wii Wi-Fi connection.  Perhaps similar programs could be created that would run in Wii U mode.  I don't know if any Wii U homebrew scene would ever be as popular as the Wii homebrew scene though.

Quote from: CosmoCortney on July 22, 2013, 06:33:36 AM
this might be interesting:

http://gbatemp.net/threads/shadow-lags-wiiu-hacking-and-development-thread.351575/

Looks like that thread got derailed...


Anyway, the thread below could be interesting as well.  They are working with the information that fail0verflow released on their blog awhile back, with regard to the three cores on a Wii U in Wii Mode.

http://gbatemp.net/threads/vwii-tri-core-linux.351024/ (http://gbatemp.net/threads/vwii-tri-core-linux.351024/)

I'd care mostly about cheat codes and a bit about piracy.

Since I still have the regular Wii, no need for GCN support or whatever for me personally.

Homebrew apps like media players? No, I have Wii homebrew and no need in general since other devices can do that, too.
Anyways, these homebrew apps usually are flawed way more than what comes with laptops or smartphones.
E. g. media player crashes randomly on playing movies *cough*.

In case anyone is interested, here is a 30C3 talk on the Wii U by fail0verflow members Sven, Marcan, and Comex...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwKeVF-x3Og (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwKeVF-x3Og)

This talk on hacking the Wii U gamepad is pretty interesting too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8YgVVtNRjg