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Title: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 09, 2011, 10:28:44 PM
See this post on GSCentral by Ralf:

http://board.gscentral.org/showthread.php/9002-Tales-of-Symphonia-%28GCN-AR-PAL-GERMAN%29?p=176621&viewfull=1#post176621

EDIT: Ralf has removed the code and put up a different one.  You can see that his post was edited.  I shall keep a copy of his old code here, for posterity.

It's a Shop Roller for Tales of Symphonia PAL.  Funny...I made a shop roller for Tales of Symphonia NTSC.  It had the same button activator, too.  But you wouldn't know that from Ralf's post.

Here's his AR Code
[spoiler]Shop Roller (Press Z + DPad Up/Down) ["Ralf"]
1BFK-W15K-3QBY2
8UDX-FMMQ-PTQU5
QEC1-PQG7-G2MX7
496K-5M4J-0PDEY
9H0W-G2NX-5047F
083X-1701-TP0V0
AJ84-TGE8-9Z51Y
56ZK-6MVZ-1E689
U586-NY7T-A1K4J
E7HF-PT3X-0X0KD
4Y8F-YK3C-0AGUG
X09M-RVDC-PFMA9
DPMA-6CNQ-KBQWF
C2WD-DE1H-RT29Y
F4KA-WH3J-62VZN
6PR6-18J6-XERVR
GYDY-H60G-H442M
QBDQ-DTZ8-GGZP0
TY2E-BF42-1XM2R
KX4N-5VRZ-UD5P4
6MFJ-34C3-W3K76
KW70-AVXF-EXZC2[/spoiler]

Run his AR code through a decrypter and you get

[spoiler]0A1435A5 18000000
04002F00 A9430016
04002F04 3D80802D
04002F08 A16C48A8
04002F0C 716B000C
04002F10 41820034
04002F14 A16C4878
04002F18 2C0B0018
04002F1C 40820014
04002F20 394A0001
04002F24 2C0A0033
04002F28 40810008
04002F2C 39400000
04002F30 2C0B0014
04002F34 40820010
04002F38 354AFFFF
04002F3C 40800008
04002F40 39400033
04002F44 B1430016
04002F48 7D405378
04002F4C 480C38C8
040C6810 4BF3C6F0
[/spoiler]

It's a hand-coded C2 hook.  Strip out the ASM from the RAM writes...

[spoiler]A9430016 3D80802D
A16C48A8 716B000C
41820034 A16C4878
2C0B0018 40820014
394A0001 2C0A0033
40810008 39400000
2C0B0014 40820010
354AFFFF 40800008
39400033 B1430016
7D405378 480C38C8[/spoiler]

Compare that to my code's ASM http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,8455.msg70489.html#msg70489

[spoiler]A9430016 3D80802D
A16CAF08 716B000C
41820034 A16CAED8
2C0B0018 40820014
394A0001 2C0A0033
40810008 39400000
2C0B0014 40820010
354AFFFF 40800008
39400033 B1430016
7D405378 00000000[/spoiler]

In case there's any doubt, let me put them side-by-side.

My ASM                  "Ralf's" ASM
A9430016                A9430016
3D80802D                3D80802D
A16CAF08                A16C48A8
716B000C                716B000C
41820034                41820034
A16CAED8                A16C4878
2C0B0018                2C0B0018
40820014                40820014
394A0001                394A0001
2C0A0033                2C0A0033
40810008                40810008
39400000                39400000
2C0B0014                2C0B0014
40820010                40820010
354AFFFF                354AFFFF
40800008                40800008
39400033                39400033
B1430016                B1430016
7D405378                7D405378

My ASM                  "Ralf's" ASM
lha r10,22(r3)          lha r10,22(r3)
lis r12,-32723          lis r12,-32723
lhz r11,-20728(r12)     lhz r11,18600(r12)
andi. r11,r11,12        andi. r11,r11,12
beq- 0x0034             beq- 0x0034
lhz r11,-20776(r12)     lhz r11,18552(r12)
cmpwi r11,24            cmpwi r11,24
bne- 0x0014             bne- 0x0014
addi r10,r10,1          addi r10,r10,1
cmpwi r10,51            cmpwi r10,51
ble- 0x0008             ble- 0x0008
li r10,0                li r10,0
cmpwi r11,20            cmpwi r11,20
bne- 0x0010             bne- 0x0010
subic. r10,r10,1        subic. r10,r10,1
bge- 0x0008             bge- 0x0008
li r10,51               li r10,51
sth r10,22(r3)          sth r10,22(r3)
mr r0,r10               mr r0,r10


Looks exactly the same, except for the button activator addresses.  Gee, thanks for the credit, Ralf.  >.<

The addresses that changed are button activators.  Here's my original ASM in source form

[spoiler]hook  800C70D8:  A8030016   lha   r0,22(r3)

z up or z down to roll shop

limits are 0 to 51

shop roller



# =========================================

.set BTN_ADDR,0x802CAED8

.set BTN_Z,0x0010
.set BTN_DUP,0x0008
.set BTN_DDOWN,0x0004


lha r10,22(r3)         # original instruction

lis r12,BTN_ADDR@ha      # r12 = button pointer
lhz r11,BTN_ADDR@l+0x30(r12)   # r11 = deltas
andi. r11,r11,BTN_DUP|BTN_DDOWN   # check for up or down changing
beq- _END

lhz r11,BTN_ADDR@l(r12)      # r11 = buttons

cmpwi r11,BTN_Z|BTN_DUP      # z dup incs
bne- 0f

addi r10,r10,1         # inc
cmpwi r10,51         # wrap
ble- 0f

li r10,0         # from 52 to 0

0:

cmpwi r11,BTN_Z|BTN_DDOWN   # z ddown decs
bne- 0f

subic. r10,r10,1      # dec
bge- 0f

li r10,51         # from 0 to 52

0:

_END:

sth r10, 22(r3)         # store rolled value
mr r0,r10         # finish original instruction[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: hetoan2 on July 09, 2011, 11:56:52 PM
their boards are down, so i can't witness the act, but I feel for you man.

There's no reason for stealing credit on codes. :( it's a shame it happened to you :\
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: goemon_guy on July 10, 2011, 12:02:17 AM
Yeah, I'd have a say in this too, but their boards are down.

dcx2 is one of the better hackers (definately among the best!) here,
so it's definately a shame that his code has been stolen.

I wouldn't be very happy if someone stole my codes, so hopefully this is resolved!
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 10, 2011, 12:04:22 AM
Don't get me wrong, I think it's awesome that the code gets ported to PAL.  I posted because I have no way to get a hold of Ralf without making an account there, and I'm too lazy for that.  Credit would be cool, but asking for credit after-the-fact is not quite as cool...

I imagine other GC code makers should be on the lookout.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: goemon_guy on July 10, 2011, 12:11:26 AM
Yeah, I'd feel the same. As long as I'm credited, I could care less.

And are there really that many people who make GC codes anymore? (Using WiiRd, that is) and actually submits them?

Either way, I agree completely.

I wonder if Ralf has done this to anyone else already...?
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 19, 2011, 02:12:26 PM
I don't believe it.  A re-hack doesn't use the exact same assembly instructions.  A re-hack means you found the hook all on your own, and you wrote the ASM all on your own.  And even if it WAS a re-hack, I should have gotten some credit anyway for all of my original work.

Using my ASM and my hook is not a rehack, no matter how non-trivial it is to transform a C2 code into 04 codes.  It's not your typical "change one address and it's ported".  But he didn't write any of the ASM himself.  The only hard thing he had to do was place the code in memory with 04 writes, and that process is the same once you've done it a few times.  Seriously, look at the first post and compare the ASM for my code and his code.  That's my work that he's taking credit for.

How completely disrespectful.  I expect better from hackers.  I guess there's nothing you can do, though.  In the end, it's okay; Ralf could never have hacked that code in the first place.  I should feel flattered that some guy wants to steal my codes and pass them off as his own to make up for his inabilities.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Deathwolf on July 19, 2011, 02:29:41 PM
Now you know he's a noob hacker. He used your code because it's an awesome hack. Some codes which I've done for CoD BO got leaked too and I got no credits for it. Who cares? You know that YOU have done this code and ralf can't assembly anything because of this. I think your codes are already on the database with your credit.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 19, 2011, 03:02:53 PM
I don't see how my codes could be on GSCentral's database.  And I haven't added them to geckocodes yet.

Sharkbyte, you said Ralf stole some RE4 codes from us, too.  Could you find them and link to them here?  I'm going to make an account at GSCentral so I can call Ralf out on his thievery.  When you place the ASM instructions side-by-side, it's pretty obvious he didn't write the code himself.  And I'm willing to bet he used my hook to find his, instead of finding his on his own.

EDIT:

lol, I'll make an account once their registration works again...

EDIT2:

I just saw you edited your post with a link to Ralf's ports.  I'll make sure to bring them up.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Deathwolf on July 19, 2011, 03:05:31 PM
AR doesn't support the C2 codetype?
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 19, 2011, 03:10:34 PM
No.  That's why he had to hand-code the C2.

The 04 codes at the beginning write the ASM to an unused portion of memory.  Then the last 04 code writes the branch at the hook instruction.

Apparently, converting a C2 code into a series of 04 codes counts as "re-hacking", and "re-hacking" means you don't have to give credit to the guy who did all the work.  Even though the resulting ASM is identical.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Deathwolf on July 19, 2011, 03:13:40 PM
Yeah actually he just wrote a branch from 800C6810 to 80002F00 and 80002F4C to 800C6814  ???
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 19, 2011, 03:17:49 PM
Yes.  He wrote those branches, and then used a series of 04 codes to write my ASM to 80002F00-20002F4C.  And he also changed the button activator addresses.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Deathwolf on July 19, 2011, 03:22:29 PM
lol 802D48A8 to 802DAF08
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 19, 2011, 04:29:59 PM
There was another button activator.  Here, let me put them side-by-side so that it's really easy to see exactly how much of my code was "re-hacked".

My ASM                  "Ralf's" ASM
A9430016                A9430016
3D80802D                3D80802D
A16CAF08                A16C48A8
716B000C                716B000C
41820034                41820034
A16CAED8                A16C4878
2C0B0018                2C0B0018
40820014                40820014
394A0001                394A0001
2C0A0033                2C0A0033
40810008                40810008
39400000                39400000
2C0B0014                2C0B0014
40820010                40820010
354AFFFF                354AFFFF
40800008                40800008
39400033                39400033
B1430016                B1430016
7D405378                7D405378

My ASM                  "Ralf's" ASM
lha r10,22(r3)          lha r10,22(r3)
lis r12,-32723          lis r12,-32723
lhz r11,-20728(r12)     lhz r11,18600(r12)
andi. r11,r11,12        andi. r11,r11,12
beq- 0x0034             beq- 0x0034
lhz r11,-20776(r12)     lhz r11,18552(r12)
cmpwi r11,24            cmpwi r11,24
bne- 0x0014             bne- 0x0014
addi r10,r10,1          addi r10,r10,1
cmpwi r10,51            cmpwi r10,51
ble- 0x0008             ble- 0x0008
li r10,0                li r10,0
cmpwi r11,20            cmpwi r11,20
bne- 0x0010             bne- 0x0010
subic. r10,r10,1        subic. r10,r10,1
bge- 0x0008             bge- 0x0008
li r10,51               li r10,51
sth r10,22(r3)          sth r10,22(r3)
mr r0,r10               mr r0,r10
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: James0x57 on July 19, 2011, 04:44:26 PM
Ralf has been posting tons of new GCN codes to ARC for many months... You might want to sign up and look... http://forum.arcentral.net/viewforum.php?f=3

He seems to actually know what he's doing... but yeah... that specific code is totally ripped off.. If it's on ARC, I can remove it there.

The only thing that /had/ to be rehacked to get it to gcn was calculating the branches manually and finding empty memory to hold the asm. It's hardly more than a normal port and, indisputably, you should have credit.



also: can you add yours to the database whenever you get the chance, please? :)
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 19, 2011, 05:01:43 PM
At least they give credit for the Wii codes.

The scope code at least looks different.  Personally, I give credit when I use other people's codes as a starting point - like I did with this Party Mod code (http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,8455.msg71537.html#msg71537) - but at least he did some original work there.

I think I saw a Walk Through Walls Code there.  Didn't try to decrypt it and compare to yours yet.  But there was nothing original about the Shop Roller.  You can plug the branches into an assembler and it calculates them for you.  It's the same process I used to install the latest debugger patches without using C2 codes.

I'll post my ToS codes to the DB when I get a chance.  One of them was potentially buggy so I was waiting a bit to see which one.

EDIT:

lol, I should port his codes and not give him credit.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Arudo on July 19, 2011, 06:08:43 PM
What goes around, comes around? Might as well see if you can elicit a reaction that way.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 20, 2011, 02:44:19 AM
Okay, now that venting is over, I'd like to re-state something I said earlier...

I like that my code is being made more accessible.  I think that's a  good thing and I'm glad Ralf did it.  In fact, analyzing it has shed light on how I might port some of my codes to AR for the ToS GameCube folks, so this event is probably positive overall.

However, I still think poorly of him for so obviously stealing my code without a whiff of credit.  I still suspect him of having stolen some other codes, though I expect in many instances they will be more like the scope rehack.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 20, 2011, 11:41:40 PM
And the saga continues...

Since the GSCentral web site's registration is broken, I can't register.  However, GMO already had an account, and he kindly posted the side-by-side ASM comparison to the ToS thread over there.

Ralf still won't confess to stealing my code, even when confronted with indisputable evidence.  He even tried to post an "alternate" shop roller to "prove" that he "re-hacked" it - though I wonder why he didn't post his actual re-hack the first time.  I imagine that he didn't expect a US Wii hacker to decrypt PAL AR codes on some other forum, and thus felt like he was safe plagiarizing my work.

What's worse, Rune doesn't seem to care that one of his moderators is a code thief.  Instead, he attacks GMO for pointing it out.  And this is just after the admin made some comment about "no hostile, barbaric language" to some other guy who pointed out that the code was stolen.  Talk about double standards.

It's also funny to read their front page (http://gscentral.org/).  "GS Central was created in 1998 to ensure code creators everywhere would have a haven for proper code credit."  "We are GSCentral, the only reliable source for the latest codes and we guarantee that you will receive 100% code credit for ALL of your code creations!"
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: goemon_guy on July 21, 2011, 12:08:23 AM
That guy, who he called "barbaric" was me!
I've never really liked GSCentral, to be honest, and now I have even more reason to. :)
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Deathwolf on July 21, 2011, 12:48:17 AM
lol he made 3 different versions..... just changed the button combination and converted them.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 21, 2011, 01:11:48 AM
His alternate version is actually quite different.  Here's the decrypted and converted "alternate shop roller".

[spoiler]281469EC 18000000
282D4878 00000018
02002F00 0000BABE
E2000001 80008000
2A2D4878 00000018
28002F00 0000BABE
No WiiRD CodeType for GCN AR CodeType- Increment.
02002F00 00000000
E2000001 80008000
E0000000 80008000
282D4878 00000014
02002F04 0000BABE
E2000001 80008000
2A2D4878 00000014
28002F04 0000BABE
No WiiRD CodeType for GCN AR CodeType- Increment.
02002F04 00000000
E2000001 80008000
E0000000 80008000
2C23A49A FF00007F
0023A49B 00000033
E2000001 80008000
2C23A49A FF000033
0023A49B 00000000
E2000001 80008000[/spoiler]

But the original is definitely 100% ripped off of me.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: goemon_guy on July 21, 2011, 01:29:48 AM
Quote from: Ralf @ GSCentral(this code doesn't work well due to sync probs)

Think, it would've all been fine if he had've just given you credit in the first place, though!
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Bully@Wiiplaza on July 21, 2011, 08:56:03 AM
Leakers are everywhere.
I sometimes tell people to not share my codes.
What happened some days later?

The code can be found with various different credits on the internet like this:

[Bully@Wiiplaza/*some idiot that thinks he gets half credit for inputting a hexadecimal value into the XXX variables of the code*]

I could easily rewrite any code and silently don´t mention the original hacker and almost nobody will notice.
Such behaviour is just poor and is mostly a sign of inferiority or noobishness.

If pointer was used, I rewrite the code with breakpoint read or write. Maybe using another possible pointer address?
If BP Read was used, I rewrite it with BP Write (if possible) or maybe Pointer. If the address stays the same, why not using a direct RAM Write for the stolen code. If BP Write was used, I rewrite with BP Read. If a button activated code was made, I find another button activator and replace instructions with others that do the same.

E.g.

lis r12, 0x8012
lhz r12, 0x4E56 (r12)
cmpwi r12, 0xYYYY
bne- _END
li r11, 0
stw r11, 0 (r3)
_END:
lwz r0, 0 (r3)

instead of

lis r11, 0x8012
ori r11, r11, 0x3056
lhz r11, 0 (r11)
andi. r11, r11, 0xYYYY
beq- _END
li r0, 0
stw r0, 0 (r3)
_END:
lwz r0, 0 (r3)

Possibilities for stealing codes are pretty much endless.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 21, 2011, 03:40:20 PM
Quote from: SharkbyteThis is ridiculous. Guys, we shouldn't be arguing over a little piece of text that has our name over it. Its nice to give the orignal hacker a mention, but if it was a rehack then it was. Now if someone took the 300+ codes I made straight from the geckocodes database and posted the exact same codes then I would be mad.

I'm sorry, but I disagree.  If Ralf did something like this for an assignment at a university, he would be expelled for plagiarism.

He did not "rehack" my code.  He may have tried to rehack it, but the code he posted a month ago is indisputably my ASM.

That he feels no shame in stealing my code, even after being caught red-handed, just makes it worse.

---

Bully, he didn't even try to take "half-credit".  I would have accepted a note at the bottom, "based off dcx2's Shop Roller for NTSC".  The way it's posted, Ralf is trying to pass it off as 100% his code.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: James0x57 on July 21, 2011, 05:25:42 PM
Yeah, you're on your own with that thought, Sharkbyte. It's dcx2's work and he should be credited for what he did. Hands down.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Thomas83Lin on July 21, 2011, 07:41:47 PM
After reading the responses between GMO and the mods on GSCentral, I've lost respect for the Mods over there. its getting ugly
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Deathwolf on July 21, 2011, 09:36:16 PM
"See? He knows his stuff. Now fuck off you useless cunts. "

This guy is retarded.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 21, 2011, 11:00:58 PM
If you feel that way, Sharkbyte, that's your call.  Personally, I don't see what there is to argue.  Ralf stole my code and didn't give me credit.  That's just a proven fact.  The evidence is in the first post; anyone can independently verify that I wrote my code first, and that Ralf's code uses my ASM.  Ralf may know what he's doing, but competence does not justify theft.

It's pretty sad that despite being caught red-handed, he still won't admit he was wrong.  I don't see how compromise is possible with someone like that.  Anyway, why should *I* compromise when *he* was the thief?  Is it my fault that my code was ported without giving me credit?

I might not be able to stop people from stealing my codes, but I certainly don't have to give thieves any respect, and I don't see why you think I or anyone else should.  Of course it will get ugly; most people do not enjoy being called out when they do something wrong.

Getting ugly is not GMO's fault, though.  All he did was post the evidence.  Rune was the one who started the ad-hominem attacks.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Thomas83Lin on July 21, 2011, 11:04:21 PM
Quote from: dcx2 on July 21, 2011, 11:00:58 PM
Getting ugly is not GMO's fault, though.  All he did was post the evidence.  Rune was the one who started the ad-hominem attacks.
Not at all, Rune is making it a personal attack on Gmo.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Deathwolf on July 21, 2011, 11:06:43 PM
make your codes regionfree and nobody trys to "re-hacking" or "porting" them.
Ralf is german.... so I wrote something to explain it.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: James0x57 on July 22, 2011, 01:45:44 AM
Multi-line asm hacks have to be re-implemented to gcn games. Same hack, same asm, but GCN AR has much more cumbersome codetypes to get the same result.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: GMO on July 22, 2011, 02:02:32 AM
I am done with GScentral, stuff like this has happen before. The result was a BS Free Code Database (http://thegshi.org/?s=bsfree2). Rune Rune Rune, he cracks me up especially using info from my profile on gscentral that hasn't been update since 2009... I love it! BTW I am 29 not in my 30s, I actually have a job as a Security Officer for the past 2 years, and I think I am pretty damn sexy, at least I am enough that am I married. As he claims he goes out to his GF house at 1230am (didn't know his hand had a time frame) but that is just mean. I am sure his 1st cousin is a handsome 11 year old zhe. Now that my childishness is out of the system.

I would quote them both but their forum is down as usual. Ralf as admitted to using some of dcx2's codes but never did credit them and idiotically stated the process of porting codes and the reason why original credit doesn't apply since it's a different region. I am having a flashback to Ace1 and Codejunkies/ Datel debate about porting. If the site does come backup I will quote the unreasonable stupidity.

Quote from: Ralf;176971Oh man, what a kindergarden here.
1. When you port a code to a region that didn't have it, you'll get the credit for this port and not the
original author! So, it doesn't really matter if the code was ported or re-hacked. In both cases you'll
get the credit for it. Naturally, it's polite to credit the original hacker as well, but this is not a
must.

dcx2's GeckoOS Roller Code is for the US-NTSC version, and my AR codes are for the German PAL version!
Unethical and shady. It's just a slap in the face and an open omission to taking the code.

Quote from: Rune;176972See? He knows his stuff. Now fuck off you useless cunts.
Funny, we are all useless, but it all of our codes that promotes his website, it's all our codes that he posts on his database yet I don't remember him asking me for permission to post my codes... did he ask you? Being a site affiliate doesn't give you a right to post this sites information without proper permission.

Quote from: Rune;176982In other words:
You're on my website. I don't need to treat you with any respect on my turf.
Generally an asshole all the time, and doesn't care. Openly admitting it.

Quote from: Rune;176982If you don't like GSCentral, no one is forcing you to be apart of the #1 code source on the Internet today.
I thought that was GameFAQs.com ?

Quote from: Rune;176982dcx2 can post here and defend himself. He does not need your help to fight his own fights. This isn't a TV show from the 1980's like Thundercats or Transformers or G.I.Joe.
FUnny, it's what he is doing with Ralf here?
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 22, 2011, 02:04:38 AM
Yeah, AR doesn't support F6 codes.  All it would do is make it a little harder for him to find the hook I used.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: James0x57 on July 22, 2011, 03:09:42 AM
-- removed --


@dcx2- you can contact Ralf directly on arcentral.net. (linked previously)
He doesn't sign onto those boards as often, but he definitely does.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 22, 2011, 02:42:42 PM
Quote from: GMO on July 22, 2011, 02:02:32 AM
Quote from: Rune;176982dcx2 can post here and defend himself. He does not need your help to fight his own fights. This isn't a TV show from the 1980's like Thundercats or Transformers or G.I.Joe.
Uhh...no I can't post there.  lol, their registration link is broken.  See?  http://board.gscentral.org/register.php  Otherwise, I would make an account.

I tried looking for their forum rules, to see if there's a rule about noting the original author of a port.  Unfortunately, it looks like they have no rule over there about that.  Although from the thread, you would be lead to believe that a "port" requires credit but a "re-hack" does not.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: GMO on July 27, 2011, 09:44:26 PM
All I am getting is excuses not to remove my codes
http://board.gscentral.org/showthread.php/51575-Code-Database-Section-Upgrade-Thread?p=177116&viewfull=1#post177116

Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Thomas83Lin on July 28, 2011, 12:51:09 AM
Quote from: GMO on July 27, 2011, 09:44:26 PM
All I am getting is excuses not to remove my codes
http://board.gscentral.org/showthread.php/51575-Code-Database-Section-Upgrade-Thread?p=177116&viewfull=1#post177116


noob question what does GH stand for in Rune's post
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: GMO on July 28, 2011, 02:26:28 AM
GameHacking.org previously known as The GSHI. Rune has beef with them and is using them as an excuse not to remove my codes.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Nutmeg on July 30, 2011, 03:25:18 AM
@dcx2 Is there a date that you made the code?  Just show them the date, and then it doesn't matter if he "re-hacked" the code.  If you made it first, it doesn't matter how he made the code.  He still had information readily available to steal your code (information here on wiird).  2 people cannot both have credit for the same code.  If that's what he asks for... then there's not much anyone can do about him or GSCentral.

Edit: « Last Edit: June 15, 2011, 06:34:59 am by dcx2 »  for your code.  What's the date for his code?
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Thomas83Lin on July 30, 2011, 03:43:56 AM
Quote from: Nutmeg on July 30, 2011, 03:25:18 AM
@dcx2 Is there a date that you made the code?  Just show them the date, and then it doesn't matter if he "re-hacked" the code.  If you made it first, it doesn't matter how he made the code.  He still had information readily available to steal your code (information here on wiird).  2 people cannot both have credit for the same code.  If that's what he asks for... then there's not much anyone can do about him or GSCentral.

Edit: « Last Edit: June 15, 2011, 06:34:59 am by dcx2 »  for your code.  What's the date for his code?
looks like Ralf already removed Dcx2's version of the code from that thread anyways.

edited
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on July 30, 2011, 01:50:04 PM
Quote from: Nutmeg on July 30, 2011, 03:25:18 AM
@dcx2 Is there a date that you made the code?  Just show them the date, and then it doesn't matter if he "re-hacked" the code.  If you made it first, it doesn't matter how he made the code.  He still had information readily available to steal your code (information here on wiird).  2 people cannot both have credit for the same code.  If that's what he asks for... then there's not much anyone can do about him or GSCentral.

Edit: « Last Edit: June 15, 2011, 06:34:59 am by dcx2 »  for your code.  What's the date for his code?

My last edit was June 15, but that was when I struck the Summon Without Overlimit code.  Shop Roller was posted before that.

Even though Ralf removed the plagiarized code, his post still has the date above it: June 20.  Good thing I copied the code before he tried to delete the evidence.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Skiller on August 05, 2011, 12:43:03 AM
ya that site has been like that forevery im kinda Suprised there affiliated to the Database ..
the only person rune cares about is Rune him self .. he dont care how he treats the users on his forum or how he treats the ppl from the other sites that he takes his Database from .. GSC would do alot better with a diffrent Admin/owner..

How can u respect a site that has no respect for anyone elts .. LMAO ..
All his ps3 codes that he posted credits to are all wrong as well . He just posted what was posted on another code thiefs site ..LMAO ..

iv been fighting that porting/Converting codes does not = you as credit for hacking the code only as porting/Converting the code .. iv Seem to get it working over on the CMP and its also seem others have thought the same way .. Like here ..
but rune all he cares is getting things in his database .. he dont care if the code works as long as its in his Database lol .
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: biolizard89 on August 05, 2011, 02:17:30 AM
Quote from: Skiller on August 05, 2011, 12:43:03 AM
ya that site has been like that forevery im kinda Suprised there affiliated to the Database ..
the only person rune cares about is Rune him self .. he dont care how he treats the users on his forum or how he treats the ppl from the other sites that he takes his Database from .. GSC would do alot better with a diffrent Admin/owner..

How can u respect a site that has no respect for anyone elts .. LMAO ..
All his ps3 codes that he posted credits to are all wrong as well . He just posted what was posted on another code thiefs site ..LMAO ..

iv been fighting that porting/Converting codes does not = you as credit for hacking the code only as porting/Converting the code .. iv Seem to get it working over on the CMP and its also seem others have thought the same way .. Like here ..
but rune all he cares is getting things in his database .. he dont care if the code works as long as its in his Database lol .
Ugh... I remember when I posted a help question on GSCentral regarding GameCube hacking.  In my post, I included a code I was trying to make, and asked why it wasn't working.  Next thing I knew, the code was in the GSCentral database.  Rune never bothered to notify me, nor check with me if the code was working, and of course never helped me make it work.  He just stuck it on the database, so that if someone tried it and it didn't work, my name would be attached to it and people would think I was a crappy hacker.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: goemon_guy on August 05, 2011, 03:30:59 AM
I was just looking through their codes - looking for codes they uploaded as mine - There're two that I don't recall hacking for Pokemon Rumble.

On top of that, they don't even appear to work... >_>
Go GSCentral :D
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Mander Pander on August 17, 2011, 06:41:58 PM
Theft is idiocy. Idiocy is how the world gets around. It's a cycle.

But seriously...I don't condone theft of anything, especially codes that have been painstakingly made.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: GMO on September 07, 2011, 06:01:20 PM
Interesting and not a complete shocker, they are still posting my codes and I am banned from the site. lol
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: goemon_guy on September 07, 2011, 07:53:53 PM
They call themselves the number one code source, but then post codes of a member who, "Has yet to hack anything noteworthy."
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Patedj on September 08, 2011, 05:11:26 AM
Anyway to shut them down?
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: dcx2 on September 08, 2011, 06:10:51 AM
It's not worth it.  I just wanted this thread to help make people aware of potential code theft, that's all.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: GMO on September 10, 2011, 02:01:54 PM
If I was smart or an idiot, would I continue to post codes by someone who told me not to post their codes or someone recently banned from the forums. If the answer is yes then you would see this

http://gscentral.org/codelist.php?sys=50&dev=83&game=11403623
It's straight copy and paste, LOL

(http://i55.tinypic.com/2utp3qr.jpg)
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: XeR on September 11, 2011, 08:08:27 PM
Quote from: Patedj on September 08, 2011, 05:11:26 AM
Anyway to shut them down?
http://s3.noelshack.com/uploads/images/6873633017955_owned.png
I expected a better security from peoples calling themselves 'hackers'.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: Deathwolf on September 11, 2011, 08:44:40 PM
xD
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: pichu04 on September 19, 2011, 07:07:31 AM
Quote from: GMO on September 10, 2011, 02:01:54 PM
If I was smart or an idiot, would I continue to post codes by someone who told me not to post their codes or someone recently banned from the forums. If the answer is yes then you would see this

http://gscentral.org/codelist.php?sys=50&dev=83&game=11403623
It's straight copy and paste, LOL

(http://i55.tinypic.com/2utp3qr.jpg)

Sorry you were banned GMO. Rune can be a pain. Was it the DS or the Wii you hacked there i can't remember. You've probably seen me there a time or too.
Title: Re: Ralf from GSCentral stole my code without giving me credit
Post by: GMO on January 28, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
sorry for the resurrection but I got an email saying Rune is posting my codes on the forum as his own?
http://board.gscentral.org/nintendo-wii/53749.htm

I thought I did nothing note worthy on the Wii?

I am sorry but something has to be up because I see no one else codes posted in any other threads
http://board.gscentral.org/nintendo-wii/

Last time posts a code there for the Wii was...
[PAL] James Bond GoldenEye 007 [SJBP52]
Started by Nikra, 02-07-2011