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Title: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: dcx2 on April 26, 2011, 09:45:00 PM
I've been Sony Free since the Rootkit in 2005.  Looks like it was a wise decision...Sony's PSN has been hacked.  Personal data has been compromised.  The safety of credit card information is unknown.  There are reports of unknown charges being made to credit cards that paid for PSN.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/04/sony-admits-utter-psn-failure-your-personal-data-has-been-stolen.ars

Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: James0x57 on April 27, 2011, 12:51:52 AM
They'll just sweep it under the rug with the rest of their should-be-PR-nightmares. It'll hardly make a dent.

But in the unlikely event that they bow out of the console business, we'll all have to celebrate. =)
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: dcx2 on April 27, 2011, 02:03:21 AM
If it's just name, address, birthday...then yeah, I can see this blowing over.  If they actually lost people's credit cards, this will make a pretty big dent.  Think mom and dad would buy little Johnny any PS3 games if they found out that Sony lost their credit card info?

Oh yeah, don't forget that the PSN has been down for almost a week now.  Hope you didn't want to play your brand new Portal 2 with any of your friends...

I don't think this will be the end of Sony's console business.  But there are millions of gamers who are probably now thinking that paying for XBox Live is a good investment.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Thomas83Lin on April 27, 2011, 02:20:56 AM
hmm, Psn has my CC info, I hope someone didn't get it. I wonder what I could do though if they had.   :mad:

edit: Guess i'll report it lost\stolen, and get a new one sent.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: 777eThOd* on April 27, 2011, 02:22:52 AM
Quote from: thomas83lin on April 27, 2011, 02:20:56 AM
hmm Psn, has my CC info, I hope someone didn't get it. I wonder what I could do though if they had.   :mad:

Yeah same here. :S but since i ran the security because i knew and most of PS Hackers knew it was coming, we were told ahead to sevure our stuff, explains why im on Debug :/
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Arudo on April 27, 2011, 07:15:05 AM
And this is why I don't have a Sony console...
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: dcx2 on April 27, 2011, 11:09:41 AM
Oh yeah, since they stole passwords too, you should also change any passwords that are in common with your PSN account.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: James0x57 on April 27, 2011, 09:28:26 PM
Quote from: 777eThOd* on April 27, 2011, 02:22:52 AM
Yeah same here. :S but since i ran the security because i knew and most of PS Hackers knew it was coming, we were told ahead to sevure our stuff, explains why im on Debug :/
I know, right? It was in the hacking-related news month(s) ago. I knew it had to get worse.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: James0x57 on April 28, 2011, 01:48:07 AM
LMAO http://www.vgcats.com/comics/
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Thomas83Lin on April 28, 2011, 02:59:06 AM
Guess i should've followed the hacking news more closely, at least i am insured. In no way do i blame myself. I blame Sony.
I thought about using Fraud Alert, but I think i'll wait before going that route.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Nuke on April 28, 2011, 05:16:37 AM
Quote from: James0x57 on April 28, 2011, 01:48:07 AM
LMAO http://www.vgcats.com/comics/

Heheh
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Link on April 28, 2011, 07:06:13 AM
Let's say as much for "whiping under the carpet". I yesterday watched two big German news shows and checked BBC One news from UK. BBC One and ZDF featured it and the biggest German news show (having most watchers - figures for yesterday in Germany are revealed: 12 Million people saw it) even had it as its main topic (first topic to be talked about). And they did include that credit card data might have been whiped.

So my opinion is: if they reach the news shows on most-watched TV channels then the damage already IS major! Geohot's court stuff did not reach those levels.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: James0x57 on April 28, 2011, 07:08:17 PM
Yep yep, I've been noticing it on news and overheard people talking about it.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Deathwolf on April 28, 2011, 09:48:24 PM
Hmm maybe both have done mistakes.... Hacking the PSN is fucking bad but spying private datas out is really bad too. I've never seen any online hacker on PSN. The real reason is the so called "Dev Blind" application for mounting your flash and making it writeable and the ISO Loader but I don't see any reasons for banning people with unsigned programms like Emulators lol. Hack online and you will get banned, hmm yea that right. At the end, sony will win for sure. The servers are their own and they can do what ever they want. Yes, Anonymous was able to hack it but the PSN is also comming back for sure in a few weeks/days.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: dcx2 on April 28, 2011, 09:56:59 PM
I don't think it was Anonymous that hacked Sony.  Someone unconnected with Anonymous could easily use them as a scapegoat.

I also agree that stealing private data is bad.  I wouldn't call that thief a "hacker".  They are a cracker.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: 111 on April 29, 2011, 01:41:37 AM
I wonder if this is real...

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/psn-database-containing-2-2million-credit-cards-now-up-sale-85702/ (http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/psn-database-containing-2-2million-credit-cards-now-up-sale-85702/)
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: dcx2 on April 29, 2011, 01:52:15 AM
I have read conflicting stories.

I've heard that there was no CV2 code (Sony never asks for CV2?), and that the CC# was encrypted.  This is the official statement, I believe.

Then, I hear that there was a chat log dating back into February 16, with alleged "PS3 modders" claiming that they found plaintext CC#.

And now Sony is moving the data center somewhere totally different, implying a concern over the physical security of the data center...
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: biolizard89 on April 29, 2011, 02:17:03 AM
Quote from: dcx2 on April 28, 2011, 09:56:59 PM
I don't think it was Anonymous that hacked Sony.  Someone unconnected with Anonymous could easily use them as a scapegoat.

I also agree that stealing private data is bad.  I wouldn't call that thief a "hacker".  They are a cracker.
Agreed; I've been keeping an eye on Anonymous since they went after Visa/Mastercard/PayPal late last year, and they generally make a strong effort to not screw innocent people.  When Amazon kicked out WikiLeaks from their server farm, Anonymous decided not to take out the server farm, because it would affect private citizens too much (they decided not to take out the PayPal API for the same reason, and only brought down PayPal's PR blog).  So yeah, based on Anonymous's recent history, I would say it's highly unlikely that Anonymous was responsible for the PSN credit card cracking.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: James0x57 on April 29, 2011, 03:12:14 AM
Quote from: dcx2 on April 29, 2011, 01:52:15 AMAnd now Sony is moving the data center somewhere totally different, implying a concern over the physical security of the data center...
Yeah, are they trying to spin the public view on what actually happened or something?? Like purposely making people who don't understand think that it was a normal "physical theft"..
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Nutmeg on April 29, 2011, 03:56:50 AM
Sony... LOL... wannabe Microsoft.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: James0x57 on April 29, 2011, 10:38:06 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/4/2011/04/f7833a429168b30bfcc6604aed5c146f/340x.jpg)
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: biolizard89 on April 30, 2011, 05:58:07 AM
http://www.qj.net/pov/ps3/pov-with-the-whole-psn-debacle-is-it-time-to-switch-for-a-new-console.html

Looks like Sony might be in for some serious lost revenues....
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: James0x57 on April 30, 2011, 02:08:33 PM
I am surprised that microsoft hasn't offered gold to be free until PSN is back online. That would bring them over for sure. hahahaha
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: dcx2 on April 30, 2011, 02:11:32 PM
It will be interesting if we could ever see April and May's sales numbers for the PS3.

I don't want Sony to fail.  They give a lot of good people jobs.  I just want them to stop being idiots.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: James0x57 on April 30, 2011, 03:05:49 PM
Curse your benevolence! lol

But, yes, you're right. Undoubtedly.


..but I HIGHLY doubt they'll actually fail though... so.. TROLL ON!

(http://i.imgur.com/PoVMM.gif)


hahahaha
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Deathwolf on May 01, 2011, 02:44:48 PM
http://psgroove.com/content.php?1020-Congress-Wants-Answers-From-Sony-Over-PSN-Hack

:)
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: James0x57 on May 02, 2011, 11:27:34 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/02/sony-hit-with-second-attack-loses-12-700-credit-card-nu/

Oh my god! This is ridiculous...
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Codyk on May 03, 2011, 03:26:12 AM
Looks like some idiots will be DDosing wiird again.-sigh-
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Arudo on May 05, 2011, 06:49:31 PM
Sony has decided to blame anonymous for it for the time being.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Arudo on June 03, 2011, 09:14:42 AM
Wow. Sony can't seem to catch a break. They got hacked again.
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Patedj on June 03, 2011, 12:40:08 PM
hmmm. was it the same person you think?
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: James0x57 on June 03, 2011, 02:56:16 PM
Sony doesn't deserve a break. But Sony users don't deserve this at all =\
Title: Re: Epic Sony PSN Fail!
Post by: Skyground95 on June 03, 2011, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: Patedj on June 03, 2011, 12:40:08 PM
hmmm. was it the same person you think?
I don't know, but It seems like a team of hackers named LulzSec takes the responsibility for this one:

http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/articles/157039/20110603/sony-hacked-again-embarrassed-company-asking-for-it-sony-pictures-lulzsec.htm

Quote from: James0x57 on June 03, 2011, 02:56:16 PM
Sony doesn't deserve a break. But Sony users don't deserve this at all =\
True