http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZKe7iDPnyg
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZKe7iDPnyg)
Me (777eThOd*) 3 Days After Release of The game Called "The Conduit 2" Showing a Hack i made.
This Hack Is Non-Host Unpatchable and Works Offline and Online, Which i Call "Non-Host Unpatchable Region-Free Game Speed Modifier" Works In All Regions PAL and NTSC from What I have tested, Affects ONLY the person with the Code activated, Great Code to have so I'm Not sure to release.
You See What it does ?
*Rapid Fire
*Faster Reloads
*Speed Hack
*3x Increased Hp
*Faster Health Regeneration
*Faster Melee
*Faster Lock-on
*Works With Any Controller.(Wiimote&nunchuk OR Classic Controller)
*and More.
are you sure u hacked the speed hack?
Another online game ruined by hackers the week it was released...
Does it feel good to destroy other people's fun? Do you feel better knowing that folks like you will probably cost Sega money, because people won't want to buy a game with rampant multi-player cheating?
I should get in contact with them and give them tips on how to stop hackers.
you can't stop hackers
Quote from: Sharkbyte on April 24, 2011, 10:53:56 PM
Quote from: Deathwolf on April 24, 2011, 07:11:21 PM
you can't stop hackers
Sorry, but I don't like little 14 year olds who just hack online games and think they are big and bad to make non host codes and even dumb enough to just release them to everyone so that everyone who wants to play the game gets pissed off cause every other person is cheating. Example is seth@wiiplaza. How many updates were there to COD and he just gets them patched every other week. The only online codes I would consider fair would be zoom mods for guns.
I haven't even had a chance to try out this game even though i bought it new and the codes are already out.
Quote from: dcx2 on April 24, 2011, 05:42:11 PM
Another online game ruined by hackers the week it was released...
Does it feel good to destroy other people's fun? Do you feel better knowing that folks like you will probably cost Sega money, because people won't want to buy a game with rampant multi-player cheating?
I should get in contact with them and give them tips on how to stop hackers.
The way they will stop the hackers like us is stop making games completely. Or disable Wi-Fi from their games. Or even pull the metroid other M bullshit. -_-
Like i said, im not releasing my codes so don't get mad at me.
Quote from: dcx2 on April 24, 2011, 05:42:11 PM
Another online game ruined by hackers the week it was released...
Does it feel good to destroy other people's fun? Do you feel better knowing that folks like you will probably cost Sega money, because people won't want to buy a game with rampant multi-player cheating?
I should get in contact with them and give them tips on how to stop hackers.
Exactly this.
And no..he won't release the code. It will end up "leaked" and another person will end up with some extra cash in their pockets due to said "leak".
dcx2, you should contact them and give a few pointers on how to prevent this from happening. Developers are losing money, gamers are losing fun and the griefers and profiting while feeling they have the right to.
I got nothing against hacking/code creating/cheating...just keep that **** off the online side of gaming. Ruin the game for yourself and not everyone else.
I don't publicly release dangerous hacks for new games anymore :\
I didn't for tcon1 either... I was on vacation when this came out so I kinda missed it. Also the online update doesn't like SNEEK :(
Also i don't Leak, so yeah. also hetoan2 is ma homie, i might just leak it to him though :P
I was on vacation also.
It´s the first time I can play TC2 now.
HVS assured to get some good hacking protection.
However, they got one which can detect codes on WiFi login...
but this wasn´t enough to stop the hackers anyways!
@Dcx2:
You´d better help them out, it can´t continue like this!
@77ethod:
The code can´t be unpatchable except it is a C0 or F6 code and even then... <_<
To find this code or maybe other destructive codes won´t be hard anyways.
Another game is doomed, please everyone don´t release good codes I still want to enjoy the game since the first part got totally shitty with all the noobz using inf. rocket launcher + Inf. Health omg ::)
Raping all the WiFi games really gets old and should be stoped now, even if I´m an online hacker also ...
Quote from: Bully@Wiiplaza on May 01, 2011, 08:42:21 AM
please everyone don´t release good codes I still want to enjoy the game
"said the frying-pan to the kettle, get away, blackbreech"
I'm not giving it to anyone.. :eek: happy ?
Making a video and showing off what you're capable of in a short time- while never giving it out to anyone- is exactly the thing I would encourage when a hack works online.
Further, none of these codes are revolutionary ideas to fuck over online play- they're all quite basic... (so it's not giving asshole hackers any new ideas)
I personally feel there's maybe a little bit too much grief going 777eThOd*'s way on this. Especially since he said he won't give it out..
Just my 2 cents.
Quote from: Bully@Wiiplaza on May 01, 2011, 08:42:21 AM
Another game is doomed, please everyone don´t release good codes I still want to enjoy the game since the first part got totally shitty with all the noobz using inf. rocket launcher + Inf. Health omg ::)
Raping all the WiFi games really gets old and should be stoped now, even if I´m an online hacker also ...
:eek:
*rubs eyes*
Am I hallucinating?
*pinches himself*
No, this is real...wow.
Well I decided to swing by the Conduit 2's board on gamefaqs, and seeing as there are HVS staff members frequenting that board apparently, as well as a thread in regards to who is hacking in matches, they've put 777eThOd* on their 'blacklist' apparently.
Quote from: James0x57 on May 03, 2011, 01:30:30 AM
Making a video and showing off what you're capable of in a short time- while never giving it out to anyone- is exactly the thing I would encourage when a hack works online.
Further, none of these codes are revolutionary ideas to fuck over online play- they're all quite basic... (so it's not giving asshole hackers any new ideas)
I personally feel there's maybe a little bit too much grief going 777eThOd*'s way on this. Especially since he said he won't give it out..
Just my 2 cents.
I'd have to agree James, I think the subset of online hackers who make sure that the game doesn't get ruined (i.e. don't release the code) are behaving responsibly. Being clever enough to make a code work online isn't a bad thing, it's a great way to gain experience with reverse-engineering. And so long as the cheating doesn't spread and stays in a couple of YouTube videos, I'd say it's a win-win: hackers get their recognition, gamers get to play their games online, and game devs don't lose money. Is that so bad?
(Unfortunately, many online hackers don't behave responsibly... but that shouldn't be construed to mean that all online hackers are irresponsible jerks.)
Quote from: dcx2 on May 03, 2011, 01:53:35 AM
Quote from: Bully@Wiiplaza on May 01, 2011, 08:42:21 AM
Another game is doomed, please everyone don´t release good codes I still want to enjoy the game since the first part got totally shitty with all the noobz using inf. rocket launcher + Inf. Health omg ::)
Raping all the WiFi games really gets old and should be stoped now, even if I´m an online hacker also ...
:eek:
*rubs eyes*
Am I hallucinating?
*pinches himself*
No, this is real...wow.
You heard it right.
However, I took some time on Sunday to hack this game and what did I create?
Yes, on the first hacking day an "
inf. health non-host" code... (working offline too)
It wasn´t very hard either, but not very easy.
Some other stuff is also possible and their protection can be bypassed if one isn´t too dumb.
I have the feelings that this game still provides the same possible codes like the first one (non-host).
Seems like their "there won´t be any hackers" talk was hot air (FAIL HVS!)
Meth merely showed a video displaying a vulnerability of the game and also stated he will not release it. He hasn't spread the code, and he's had this for 2-3 weeks now. What is the problem?
There is no problem- these hackers are respecting the online players and the developers. Just doing it for fun to learn. And maybe to take a video and show off.
Win win IMO.
Quote from: James0x57 on May 03, 2011, 01:30:30 AM
Making a video and showing off what you're capable of in a short time- while never giving it out to anyone- is exactly the thing I would encourage when a hack works online.
Further, none of these codes are revolutionary ideas to fuck over online play- they're all quite basic... (so it's not giving asshole hackers any new ideas)
I personally feel there's maybe a little bit too much grief going 777eThOd*'s way on this. Especially since he said he won't give it out..
Just my 2 cents.
i know people dont like how i hacked the conduit 2, but just imagine how the game would be if i did ? i don't want the blame for it either, although i do have an offline one exactly the same but does not work online, so i might release the offline one only..
From what I've read, the game is complete crap...
Are you talkin' about that Joystiq review by the guy who obviously has a hardon for Microsoft? The guy who goes off about "it looks like Master Chief" and "spaceships lifted directly out of Halo"? It sounds almost like he forgot that the Nintendo Wii isn't HD.
>.>
Maybe....... o.o
Not that bad then?
No, I have absolutely no clue. I don't play online games because of cheaters.
I just wanted to demonstrate how colorful language with careful supporting evidence can create a distorted perception. Though it does sound like the guy has it out for the game from the get-go. He couldn't get used to the controls? Of course he's going to hate the game.
Frankly, I'm not a big fan of multiplayer FPS games to begin with and the only reason I even bought GoldenEye was for the the nostalgias (and to see if I had gotten better in playing FPS in the years, which... I haven't).
But the thing with FPS is people are bound to hack/cheat/grief online anyway...
Although I was considering buying Conduit 2, I looked at the screenshots on the back of the box and went 'Ugh' and got a 3DS instead... haha.
By the way, how rampant has online cheating for Conduit 2 been lately?
http://geckocodes.org/index.php?c=SC2E8P
If you have this game, please let me know if any of Seth's code cross the line.
I've told him to remove the asshat line from the database and warned that he will not post online codes there..
But like in most cases, I don't know anything about this game to say what's what.
Quote from: James0x57 on May 05, 2011, 12:53:03 AM
http://geckocodes.org/index.php?c=SC2E8P
If you have this game, please let me know if any of Seth's code cross the line.
I've told him to remove the asshat line from the database and warned that he will not post online codes there..
But like in most cases, I don't know anything about this game to say what's what.
Dude, it´s only the button activator... maybe he removed some codes?
Anyways, it´s dangerous to release ANY code for this game.
I saw Seth´s codes from a PM and 90% of them can be used online (obviously since he "only" works on online hacks xD)
Ask me, if you aren´t sure about a code working online or not, I´m probably one of the best persons to ask...
Frankly, the game IS fucked when viewing the possibilties in codes... :(
Their security is a bad joke and they even delayed the release to improve the multiplayer.
@dcx2:
It´s really not worth it to stop playing any game online, since there are so few hackers (even on games with public wifi hacks)
and they can´t even fuck you up in any way, if you quit the match!
It must be total luck/misfortune to encounter one randomly though ;D
I never saw a total hacking party without an arrangement (I had one with a lot of ppl. on MKWii in former times, that was pretty funny. But there aren´t any on other games except The Conduit 1)
Let him hacking. He can do what he want. The bought the usb gecko and "online codes are not possible" is a joke too! It's not seth... Strakn and 777 ruined the NTSC version. and what I don't understand is why you are now against online codes and still making NON-HOST Inf. Health? Something wrong? Don't tell me you were messing around with the protection. If you are against online codes then TURN OFF your usb gecko in the online mod and nobody cares. Sorry but people gets interesting if you tell everyone that you have done a NON-HOST Inf. Health with C0 or C2 and they try it themself.
The biggest fail is the F6 codetype. That's why all wifi hacks are regionfree. But it's not my problem. I just started with it on CoD BO and finally bully,strakn,777 made their own UNPATCHABLE non-host codes. However do what you want.
You think your codes are unpatchable? Remember what you said. "You can't stop hackers". And I'm a pretty good hacker.
You better hope HVS/Treyarch/other Wii developers never take me up on my offer to hacker-proof their wifi modes. I know more about the USB Gecko and the code handler than any of you wifi hackers. I could help them screw things up so badly that you'd need to write your own Gecko OS and your own WiiRDGUI/Gecko.NET to keep hacking. And I could stop the online cheaters from being able to use your codes, too.
For all you know, I could help them re-program your USB Gecko from the Wii side. Do you know enough about the USB Gecko to fix it? Think anyone who does would help a wifi hacker? You'd have to go buy a new one.
Bully@Wiiplaza: Seth put a note on his code that he removed before you saw it. The note said something like "Game destroying codes coming soon! :D"
Never said that you are a bad hacker? "re-program your USB Gecko from the Wii side" .... lol? Then you have to break more than 10 usb geckos^^ Can you stop usb loader users too? The problem... what about config. usb loader users or neogamma? Can you brick my wii system? If yes then good luck.
;D :cool: ;)
Parasyte deliberately made an Action Replay code for Metroid Prime Hunters that bricked the DS when you connected to the internet.
So it is definitely a possibility.
lol I know but I don't see any reasons to do this.
Deathwolf, I´m against ruining this game(s) by releasing the best codes.
What I´m personally doing doesn´t matter in any way, if I don´t share the codes.
When did 777 learn the F6 codestype? He talked about a regionfree speed modifier on TC2, yes.
F6 just helps yourself that you don´t need to "port" the code all the time, when there´s a new patch.
Maybe brkirch was unaware that it can be maliciously used for regionfree WiFi hacks.
Deathwolf:
Well, some people just really loathe anyone who would get online and ruin a game for others.
Save files would be much easier to corrupt than bricking the entire system though.
Bully@Wiiplaza: Yeah, Brkirch probably didn't think about that.. But if the game developers knew how, it wouldn't be that hard to break an F6 code.
I wish they would listen to dcx2.. but I also don't see the developers playing nice and only breaking it only when you connect to the internet. =(
Deathwolf, you need to grow up.
You ruin online games. When you ruin online games, the company that develops the game may stop making online games, or they may go out of business if their sales are bad enough. Activision, for instance, is known for tossing acquired companies to the side when sales start to fall. Exhibit A: Guitar Hero.
You think you're just having fun. But if a developer like HVS goes under because nobody buys their games due to online cheating, wifi hackers like you will be responsible for the lost jobs. You can ruin real people's lives, the very people who bring you the games that you are playing.
I wouldn't brick your Wii, but I would brick your USB Gecko. I hate people like you that much.
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James - I would tell them that they must restrict these techniques to wifi only. The only way any anti-hacking technique has any chance of real survival if it is wifi-only If these techniques start popping up on single player games, then me, brkirch, Y.S., kenobi, etc will come out of the woodwork and fix it.
EDIT: oh yeah, and if they started trying to use these techniques on Single Player, I would personally start raping every WiFi game on the Wii and plastering it all over the Internet. And I would recommend allowing wifi codes on the database. Trust me, they would have a great incentive to keep this wifi only.
o.O
You are talking like I've done the best online codes ever and I'm the one who hacks only wifi.
Have you ever seen any codes that ruins the game and which are from me? I was not the first who hacked the leaderboard on goldeneye but I changed my score back to 0 long time ago! It sound like you call me "Volderbeek" or "mdmwii". Take a look at mkwii codes and then tell me I'm a hacker who ruins online games... wtf man
Deathwolf: For no good reason, you continually defend online hackers... It is no surprise that dcx2 grouped you with them.
Quote from: dcx2 on May 05, 2011, 07:45:35 PM
James - I would tell them that they must restrict these techniques to wifi only. The only way any anti-hacking technique has any chance of real survival if it is wifi-only If these techniques start popping up on single player games, then me, brkirch, Y.S., kenobi, etc will come out of the woodwork and fix it.
Absolutely, that's exactly why I had the "=("
Quote from: dcx2 on May 05, 2011, 07:45:35 PM
I wouldn't brick your Wii, but I would brick your USB Gecko. I hate people like you that much.
Do it! lol That kind of code is totally allowed on the database but only if it has a really deceptive name specifically targeted to online cheaters. ^_^
Quote from: dcx2 on May 05, 2011, 07:45:35 PM
EDIT: oh yeah, and if they started trying to use these techniques on Single Player, I would personally start raping every WiFi game on the Wii and plastering it all over the Internet. And I would recommend allowing wifi codes on the database. Trust me, they would have a great incentive to keep this wifi only.
Well.. I'd be on your side but only for games by that company. ;) The dark side of the force is strong with this one. hahaha
I never said you were the best Deathwolf. You are one example of a wifi hacker, the one who is talking right now, the one who is defending other wifi hackers. I would say the same to any of them.
You and others like you don't realize the very real damage you can cause. All of you think it's just a game. Some day, when you grow up and you have to earn a paycheck and feed your family and send your children to college, you might realize the error of your ways.
I wish you could give me some examples for codes which ruins the game. Then maybe I'll realize what I've done wrong.
Was that an attempt to make me post wifi codes? :rolleyes:
I don't play wifi games, and I doubt any of your wifi hacks would be on the database. But it doesn't matter. Allow me to quote you.
Quote from: Deathwolf on May 05, 2011, 06:33:47 PM
The biggest fail is the F6 codetype. That's why all wifi hacks are regionfree. But it's not my problem. I just started with it on CoD BO and finally bully,strakn,777 made their own UNPATCHABLE non-host codes.
Of course, if you didn't hack wifi games, then you would have no reason to be afraid of my threats to help developers make their wifi mode hacker proof.
You might not have hacked game-ruining codes for wifi, Deathwolf, BUT you're defending people who do hack them.
We are strongly against it.
[spoiler]
Quote from: dcx2 on May 05, 2011, 07:45:35 PM
I wouldn't brick your Wii, but I would brick your USB Gecko. I hate people like you that much.
EDIT: oh yeah, and if they started trying to use these techniques on Single Player, I would personally start raping every WiFi game on the Wii and plastering it all over the Internet. And I would recommend allowing wifi codes on the database. Trust me, they would have a great incentive to keep this wifi only.
Quote from: dcx2 on May 05, 2011, 06:44:47 PM
You better hope HVS/Treyarch/other Wii developers never take me up on my offer to hacker-proof their wifi modes. I know more about the USB Gecko and the code handler than any of you wifi hackers. I could help them screw things up so badly that you'd need to write your own Gecko OS and your own WiiRDGUI/Gecko.NET to keep hacking. And I could stop the online cheaters from being able to use your codes, too.
For all you know, I could help them re-program your USB Gecko from the Wii side. Do you know enough about the USB Gecko to fix it? Think anyone who does would help a wifi hacker? You'd have to go buy a new one.
Quote from: Deathwolf on May 05, 2011, 06:53:24 PM
Never said that you are a bad hacker? "re-program your USB Gecko from the Wii side" .... lol? Then you have to break more than 10 usb geckos^^ Can you stop usb loader users too? The problem... what about config. usb loader users or neogamma? Can you brick my wii system? If yes then good luck.
Quote from: dcx2 on May 05, 2011, 06:54:32 PM
;D :cool: ;)
[/spoiler]
I was laughing so fuckin´hard,
never mess with dcx2 ;D
You are for sure better than every online hacker since the experienced hackers on wiird don´t mess with wifi anyways. But I am 100% sure that you can´t create every code for WiFi since it´s not always possible (example: Black Ops, nobody could make an inf. ammo non-host) That´s not a lack of skills (or is it?) Activision/Treyarch shooters have a great wifi protection.
They are about the online game developers who get hacked the less.
Seriously:
You can´t brick someones USB Gecko/reprogram his gecko os/brick s.o.´s wii or make his codes unusable for others... if ppl. don´t use your software willingly.
The only thing you could do is to help developers to keep off hackers forever, if they can´t modify their gecko os to make it work again.
There´s still bootmii which is loaded from SD. It restores ANY nand backup and installs the working state again deleting everything what you may have done to their wiis.
Quote from: dcx2 on May 05, 2011, 08:12:53 PM
Was that an attempt to make me post wifi codes? :rolleyes:
I don't play wifi games, and I doubt any of your wifi hacks would be on the database. But it doesn't matter. Allow me to quote you.
Quote from: Deathwolf on May 05, 2011, 06:33:47 PM
The biggest fail is the F6 codetype. That's why all wifi hacks are regionfree. But it's not my problem. I just started with it on CoD BO and finally bully,strakn,777 made their own UNPATCHABLE non-host codes.
Of course, if you didn't hack wifi games, then you would have no reason to be afraid of my threats to help developers make their wifi mode hacker proof.
Ok maybe you missunderstood me... I meant that I've started using the F6 codetype for HOST-CODES, the other hackers used it for the TC2 NON-Host codes. BTW I think you know that activison have a really good protection against non host codes so no chance.
And no I don't think that's the right answer of this. Just name examples and no codes.
@James: I'm not protecting online hackers!
Quote from: Deathwolf on May 05, 2011, 08:21:07 PM
@James: I'm not protecting online hackers!
Quote from: Deathwolf on May 05, 2011, 06:33:47 PM
Let him hacking. He can do what he want. The bought the usb gecko and "online codes are not possible" is a joke too!
^ uh...
that's your answer? I just don't understand why you get mad to seth.
maybe you didn't read the full post? "It's not seth... Strakn and 777 ruined the NTSC version"
Does this sounds like I'm protecting them?
No, you're right. There was a misunderstanding. I was mad at Seth because he posted on the database:
"* Game destroying codes coming soon! :D"
Oh.. then.. sorry I've never seen his post.
np, It was a note under his Button Activator code. I told him to remove it.
Sorry for accusing that you support wifi hackers based on that. I misunderstood what you meant.
dcx2 might have thought you were defending wifi hackers too because of that. I'm not sure.
idk why you mad, im glad i dont release my VIP codes, or else this game would have been gone, also seth releases online codes too, so dont pull it all out on me and strakn. also @bully, i did learn F6 O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjMrs0A5zQA
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yep nice video! As Hetoan said "He's just making online codes to show them that they should make a better protection etc" lol
ahahahahaaa their security hole is obvious and a bit ridiculous.
I made some more codes.
working perfectly on the offline mode too... but I can´t release them sry
Maybe I make offline only codes, but it´s a bit dangerous aswell :rolleyes:
Edit: No Flash blinding & inf. money released!
Quote from: dcx2 on May 05, 2011, 07:45:35 PMYou ruin online games. When you ruin online games, the company that develops the game may stop making online games, or they may go out of business if their sales are bad enough. Activision, for instance, is known for tossing acquired companies to the side when sales start to fall. Exhibit A: Guitar Hero.
You think you're just having fun. But if a developer like HVS goes under because nobody buys their games due to online cheating, wifi hackers like you will be responsible for the lost jobs. You can ruin real people's lives, the very people who bring you the games that you are playing.
Quote from: dcx2 on May 05, 2011, 07:45:35 PMoh yeah, and if they started trying to use these techniques on Single Player, I would personally start raping every WiFi game on the Wii and plastering it all over the Internet. And I would recommend allowing wifi codes on the database. Trust me, they would have a great incentive to keep this wifi only.
Wouldn't you think, that you're a bit hypocritical there? Claiming that you care about developers lives and on the other hand you would destroy their games in an instant if they try to protect their intellectual property with harsh methods? Wouldn't you be doing what you claimed you hate?
Quote from: Ruffy on July 25, 2011, 08:24:45 AM
Quote from: dcx2 on May 05, 2011, 07:45:35 PMYou ruin online games. When you ruin online games, the company that develops the game may stop making online games, or they may go out of business if their sales are bad enough. Activision, for instance, is known for tossing acquired companies to the side when sales start to fall. Exhibit A: Guitar Hero.
You think you're just having fun. But if a developer like HVS goes under because nobody buys their games due to online cheating, wifi hackers like you will be responsible for the lost jobs. You can ruin real people's lives, the very people who bring you the games that you are playing.
Quote from: dcx2 on May 05, 2011, 07:45:35 PMoh yeah, and if they started trying to use these techniques on Single Player, I would personally start raping every WiFi game on the Wii and plastering it all over the Internet. And I would recommend allowing wifi codes on the database. Trust me, they would have a great incentive to keep this wifi only.
Wouldn't you think, that you're a bit hypocritical there? Claiming that you care about developers lives and on the other hand you would destroy their games in an instant if they try to protect their intellectual property with harsh methods? Wouldn't you be doing what you claimed you hate?
Even though you appear to be trolling (this is a really old thread), I'll take your comment seriously enough to try to answer (although I don't speak for dcx2). Cheating at single-player games is a protected fair use under Nintendo v. Galoob. Go look up the court case. Among other things, it's protected as fair use because it doesn't cost the game devs any profits. Cheating at online games is not a fair use, because it devalues the game and costs devs profits. Under Sony v. Universal, technology which has legitimate uses (e.g. VCR's) may be freely marketed even though it can be used for illegitimate purposes (e.g. movie piracy). Look up that court case too. dcx2 is pointing out that the game devs have the legal right to restrict online cheating, but that they have no legal basis for restricting single-player cheating. As a result, dcx2 is saying that any assistance he might give to devs is on the contractual condition that they only restrict activity which they have the legal basis to restrict. If the devs violate this contract, then dcx2 reserves the right to take action for the purpose of protecting the ability to cheat at single-player games. This is acceptable even though it enables online cheating because the same workaround is necessary to enable offline and online cheating (as per Sony v. Universal).
(@dcx2, hope I characterized your position okay; feel free to correct me if necessary.)
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biolizard pretty much nailed it on the head.
I would be willing to provide developers with anti-cheating protections to their wifi-only games, on the basis that such protections remain for only wifi games. Should the protections that I provide be abused by the developers to protect single player games, then all bets are off. Yes, I do care about developers, but single-player cheating does not hurt anyone, and blocking single player cheating will hurt this community and myself. Caring about developers is not a suicide pact, and I will not let others exploit me in such a manner without retaliation.
Of course I would make sure any cheat protections I gave them also came with work-arounds. Such work-arounds would be an insurance policy of sorts, ensuring that if they renege on my deal, we have some form of recourse.
The only way wifi protection can work is if they leave single player alone. Otherwise, 1) we implement a work-around and they can no longer protect either wifi or single player, and 2) I will treat abuse of my IP (i.e. any anti-cheating protections I provided them with) as an attack on this community and myself, and I will respond in kind.
Also, there's no IP of theirs to protect. No action that we take is against their copyrights or patents.
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you speak as if you've already been in contact with some developers... did they contact you, or did you seek out them? or is this all purely hypothetical?
All I see is hypotheticals.
I did try to contact a few different companies in a few different ways but there was never any reply to any of them. I wrote it off as typical white-hat-rejection syndrome.
I wasn't talking about developers who abuse dcx2's security protection for single player. No developers would accept something like that from a hacker. I was talking about developers who use their own protection methodes for single player, just like Nintendo did with 3DS/3DS games. Developers have any rights of the world to implement such protection to their games. Would you destroy all 3DS wifi games?
What does 3DS have to do with anything? This is a Wii hacking forum.
I think you should review the context of the thread to make sure there isn't a misunderstanding. My willingness to attack any wifi game is entirely predicated on any hack protections that I make being used on single player games.
Some game companies have already released hack protections for single player games. These hack protections have generally been defeated in a few days. It is disappointing to see e.g. Nintendo spend money developing cheat protection for Metroid: Other M when they should have been QA testing instead (http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,6765.0.html). But I didn't help them develop those cheat protections, so I don't really care. They can try all they want, but without a man on the inside they will fail to stop cheaters.
Quote from: dcx2 on July 26, 2011, 01:47:28 AMMy willingness to attack any wifi game is entirely predicated on any hack protections that I make being used on single player games.
I see. That explains it all then. It was a misunderstanding on my part.
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2011, 12:30:30 AM »
Quote from: James0x57 on May 03, 2011, 01:30:30 AM
Making a video and showing off what you're capable of in a short time- while never giving it out to anyone- is exactly the thing I would encourage when a hack works online.
Further, none of these codes are revolutionary ideas to fuck over online play- they're all quite basic... (so it's not giving asshole hackers any new ideas)
I personally feel there's maybe a little bit too much grief going 777eThOd*'s way on this. Especially since he said he won't give it out..
Just my 2 cents.
@James, it's been this long, and you we're right the entire time, everyone was hating on me after i made it lol.. what i did do was release a offline one only. :P