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Title: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: patz on January 06, 2011, 06:27:31 PM
Like how you made Ocarina for Wii. That would be wonderful.  ;D
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: James0x57 on January 06, 2011, 06:36:34 PM
*would provide PS3rd Database*
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Deathwolf on January 06, 2011, 07:14:41 PM
there was an plugin for PSP. it's called CW cheat.
this will be possible soon for PS3 but there is just one thing...
PS3 haven't a Custom Recovery menu for installing prx plugins. maybe it's possible
to write a pkg file and flashing it via CFW Update into the NAND.
would be nice if someone can do that^^
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: James0x57 on January 06, 2011, 07:17:21 PM
@Deathwolf: I think someone did do that... and I thought I saw a link to it on these boards somewhere....
If I see it again, I will quote it here
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Deathwolf on January 06, 2011, 07:28:59 PM
Quote from: James0x57 on January 06, 2011, 07:17:21 PM
@Deathwolf: I think someone did do that... and I thought I saw a link to it on these boards somewhere....
If I see it again, I will quote it here

sounds nice ^^ Custom Firmware is out yet so all these things are possible  :)
btw it's possible to play PS2 games again on PS3. maybe it's possible to emulate wii games on PS3 like Dolphin for PC? haha this would be great xDD
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: James0x57 on January 06, 2011, 08:38:31 PM
That would be quite the hack. haha



I hope that when codes happen on PS3 that they'll be similar to Gecko CodeTypes.
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: patz on January 07, 2011, 05:43:25 AM
Oh, I can't wait.  ;D
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Panda On Smack on January 07, 2011, 05:35:34 PM
vid posted today of linux booting on slim model

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gItOpt81UnI
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: hetoan2 on January 08, 2011, 01:48:29 AM
aww my overly harsh and offensive comment was removed :(

seriously though linux opens so many doors.
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Link on January 08, 2011, 02:06:39 PM
Fact is: PS3 cheating should be possible with the jailbroken PS3s and it will definetely be much easier than on JTAG Xbox 360s (while there are cheating applications, the X360 has encrypted and hashed memory so editing in-game memory is a MAJOR challenge)
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Panda On Smack on January 08, 2011, 03:18:47 PM
If a Gecko.NET equivalent app was made for the PS3 I think I would buy the console.

Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: James0x57 on January 08, 2011, 06:24:27 PM
Quote from: Panda On Smack on January 08, 2011, 03:18:47 PM
If a Gecko.NET equivalent app was made for the PS3 I think I would buy the console.
Exactly the same thing I was thinking.
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Link on January 08, 2011, 09:14:19 PM
Quote from: James0x57 on January 08, 2011, 06:24:27 PM
Quote from: Panda On Smack on January 08, 2011, 03:18:47 PM
If a Gecko.NET equivalent app was made for the PS3 I think I would buy the console.
Exactly the same thing I was thinking.

On an honest note.. Gecko .NET has been developed to keep compatible with new Nintendo consoles but I think it could be rewritten in the future for everything. All communication is done using a class, memory ranges are defined using classes - replacing the classes with PS3 ranged and replacing the communication interface with an interface communicating with a PS3 - or any other console SHOULD THEORETICALLY work.. that's essentially how I concepted it as the Wii move of GCNrd to WiiRd had multiple oddities, thus Gecko .NET was always concepted to be a bit more independent - Gecko .NET does not even expect the hack platform to be Big Endian that's also done by the communication interface.
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: James0x57 on January 08, 2011, 09:31:56 PM
Awesome
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Skiller on January 12, 2011, 11:26:23 PM
just incase .. some ppl want to read some nice info ..

http://www.codemasters-project.net/vb/cmps_index.php

Note there is a membership needed to read past what is posted on that page ..
its something we are starting to do .. we just dont know how far it will go.. but u never know :)
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Thomas83Lin on January 13, 2011, 01:28:27 AM
Quote from: Skiller on January 12, 2011, 11:26:23 PM
just incase .. some ppl want to read some nice info ..

http://www.codemasters-project.net/vb/cmps_index.php

Note there is a membership needed to read past what is posted on that page ..
its something we are starting to do .. we just dont know how far it will go.. but u never know :)

very cool, I may try this later. :) thanks, it is a great step forward.

edit: I've just read everything required seems like gruesome work, i think i'll wait but still a sign of good times ahead.
I tried the cheat works good kicked in after i purchased something.
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Skiller on January 14, 2011, 05:52:00 AM
ya the hacks are not easy to do . its not like Wii and we have a live debugger .. were just using Max Value right now..
and then go from there testing . :P

like i said over on the CMP to find the CP u could set all the values that are 999999 to 100 if u find more then 1 at that value then so something like this 100, 200,300 and what ever one u max out at is the one u need .. So say address 00000008 was 300 and your CP maxed out at 300 then u know 00000008 controlls your max amount u can have .. so ud go from there and fallow the ASM in that area to find the Compare to current value .. :) o joy an ddo more testing :P
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Thomas83Lin on January 14, 2011, 07:54:58 AM
ok so i've decrypted the eboot, I'm trying to follow how he came about the max value, I see two instructions

3D003B9A [lis r8,15258]  and two instructions later i see the 6108C9FF [ori r8,r8,51711] which is loading 3B9AC9FF into r8 for the cmpw check . so i'm guessing when or if i look for the CP
which you say is 999999 i'll need to search for F423F which i'll need to look at from a instruction point of view before searching. So probably best to just search for 423F and leave the F off
and then look for the compare check. and branch over it. something like that.

EDIT:
Well i've seen the hack is already done on CM but i just found the same exact address, so at least i know i'm on the right track, now i'm curious what would be another good game to try this on.
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: James0x57 on January 14, 2011, 04:04:08 PM
So cool! ^^
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Link on January 22, 2011, 08:30:31 PM
Well, fortunately it seems easier than on the Xbox 360 already.. I have a JTAG Xbox and I can do memory dumps and pokes on it LIVE! Now you'd think, hey, great but no. The Xbox 360 hypervisor causes a game to use a real-time encryption with a random key.. in fact only MINIMAL amount of memory is decrypted and readable.. most memory dumps I have are basically worthless.. now most people would think that our application (XeSearch) running on X360 would also get decrypted memory - as it runs in the background and does the memory reading - nope it does not: the hypervisor assigns the encryption key to the game thread if an external thread (our application) tries to access it, no decryption is being done.

It's admittedly extremely tough, people currently try to develop a way to disable the hypervisor to encrypt/decrypt or maybe spoof it to use the same key all the time - but currently.. it's essentially blocking everything. The PS3 is known that it definitely does not have encrypted memory so you should be better off there!
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: patz on January 23, 2011, 04:24:59 AM
^ Cool, and now with custom firmware already released, I hope we will get the cheat app in the next few months.
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Deathwolf on January 23, 2011, 11:54:43 AM
I don't know how it does work without a plugin installer
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Romaap on January 23, 2011, 01:43:14 PM
Maybe with the peek/poke of the payload.
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Link on January 25, 2011, 05:19:19 AM
Just as a minor note: expect Sony to start with something like PSN banning like Microsoft bans modified Xboxes.. We were lucky that Nintendo was super fair and basically ignored hackers and cheaters so far - Microsoft is known to be less fair, I'd be sure Sony is also taking a similar approach!
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Link on January 26, 2011, 05:15:16 AM
I do not talk about online cheating.. I mean the general effect: if you join PlayStation Network or Xbox Live you need to agree to an EULA (End-user license agreement). This EULA for both consoles includes that you only go online with an unmodified console! By using custom firmwares on PS3, JTAG hacks or DVD drive hacks on Xbox 360 you essentially break this EULA and thus Microsoft reacts to this as a breach of contract and they ban your console from Xbox Live immediately! For Sony it is yet unclear on how they react - just agree with the fact: if your PS3 uses a custom firmware, you do break the PSN EULA so technically you break YOUR SIDE of a contract and thus Sony is allowed to cancel the contract even if you do not cheat online.

I am not trying to discourage everyone from doing what you do: personally, I have a JTAGged Xbox which is Xbox Live banned, I have a second one which is not - simply because I accepted the fact that Microsoft says: Breach of contract = ban! For Nintendo, you essentially also break the EULA just Nintendo is (as I said) fair and ignores it.. seeing how Sony threatens USERS(!) (and not just developers) with the DMCA and stuff like that I imagine they are taking the Microsoft approach - in worst case they do not even ban your console, they might even ban your PSN account (for Microsoft your console is banned but you can use your own account on any other console).
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: patz on February 15, 2011, 12:12:57 PM
PS3 Codefreak Blog
http://haroturbo.blog70.fc2.com/blog-category-14.html

I hope this help somebody here come up with the solution.  ;D
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Deathwolf on February 15, 2011, 09:41:17 PM
WTF is that!??? looks nice
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Skiller on February 17, 2011, 03:40:56 AM
that blog is something me and Him are working on Since i know the base of all the code types ..

the ones thats unposted and goin to be the hardest to test is goin to be the is the $E

Master Code
VVVV GGGGGGGG NNNNNUUU

V = Version Number
G = Letter Half of Game ID (In Hex)
N = Number part of Game ID (In Dec)
U = ??? Always seems to be 018 or 008

Example of Master Code
$0104 424C4A4D 67005018
--------------------------
8BIT Write
$0T00 XXXXXXXX PPPP00YY
--------------------------
16BIT Write
$1T00 XXXXXXXX PPPPYYYY
--------------------------
32BIT write
$2T00 XXXXXXXX YYYYYYYY

T = BitWize
0 = No Extra Options =
1 = Set only Y Bites |
2 = Only Set Matching Parts &
3 = Only Set non Matching Parts ^

X = Address
P = offset (If set X will act as a Pointer)
Y = Value

--------------------------
Copy bytes
$5T00 XXXXXXXX YYYYYYYY
$5000 000000nn 00000000

T = Byte type 0 = 32bits, 1 = 16bits, 2 = 8Bits
X = Write Copyed Bytes to Starting from Address Put here
Y = Copy Values Starting from the Address
N = Tells Y the amount to be Copyed ..
--------------------------
Serial code
$4000 XXXXXXXX VVVVVVVV
$40zz 0000WWWW IIIIIIII

X = Address
V = Starting Value
Z = How Much To Skip By
W = How many to write ..
I = Incrament Value (increase Value by V each Write)
Note W might use the full 32bits and Z might use the 0 as well ..

Example:
GALLERY å...¨é–‹
$4000 00937428 01010101
$4028 00000004 00000000
$1000 009374C8 00000101

Is the same as:

GALLERY å...¨é–‹
$2000 00937428 01010101
$2000 00937450 01010101
$2000 00937478 01010101
$2000 009374A0 01010101
$1000 009374C8 00000101
--------------------------
JOKER
$C0nn 0000PPPP DDDDDDDD
Note: there is something that Sets what controller we are looking for this
Note 2: there will be another one for the type of skip to

N = Amount of Skips
0 = Unknown (Type of skip Greater then = to and also there should be contoller) right now we know 0 is Equal to
D = Button Activation
P = Controller (1 threw 6)

00000001 = L2TRIGGER
00000002 = R2TRIGGER
00000004 = L1TRIGGER
00000008 = R1TRIGGER
00000010 = Triangle
00000020 = O
00000040 = X
00000080 = Square
00010000 = SELECT
00080000 = START
00100000 = DPAD_UP
00200000 = DPAD_RIGHT
00400000 = DPAD_LEFT
00800000 = DPAD_DOWN

humm
0x00800000 LEFT
0x00400000 DOWN
0x00200000 RIGHT
0x00100000 UP
0x00080000 START
0x00040000 R3
0x00020000 L3
0x00010000 SELECT
0x00000080 SQUARE
0x00000040 CROSS
0x00000020 CIRCLE
0x00000010 TRIANGLE
0x00000008 R1
0x00000004 L1
0x00000002 R2
0x00000001 L2



Conditions Compare
$DW0T AAAAAAAA 0000VVVV

W = Bitwize
0 = Not Equal
1 = Equal to
2 = Greater then
3 = Less then
T = Bit Type (Intesting) [0,1,2]
A = Address
V = Value to compare to


Conditions Compare [Pointer version]
$E000 00000000 00000000
$E000 00000000 00000000
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: James0x57 on February 17, 2011, 04:44:37 AM
I don't want to be an ass but why are these codetypes being done so differently than "normal"? That looks god awful..
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Nutmeg on February 17, 2011, 04:49:01 AM
Don't know if this is a stupid question or not, but here goes:

Is it possible to make a cheating application for a computer?  The only cheating devices I know of are Cheat Engine and Art Money.  With those, you have to remake the code every time you play.  There is no ASM support and no "pointer" or "base address."  I know that these hack your process list, so codes may very from computer to computer.  So, is it impossible?  Because if it wasn't, I would've expected to see one long ago...
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Deathwolf on February 17, 2011, 04:59:40 PM
hmm sorry but I don't like the codetypes.
could be much easilier
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: Link on February 17, 2011, 07:43:28 PM
Quote from: Nutmeg on February 17, 2011, 04:49:01 AM
Don't know if this is a stupid question or not, but here goes:

Is it possible to make a cheating application for a computer?  The only cheating devices I know of are Cheat Engine and Art Money.  With those, you have to remake the code every time you play.  There is no ASM support and no "pointer" or "base address."  I know that these hack your process list, so codes may very from computer to computer.  So, is it impossible?  Because if it wasn't, I would've expected to see one long ago...

Cheat Engine has pointer support, module entry base address data, and everything.. I admit, ASM hacks are not easy with Cheat Engine as you need to store your ASM stuff within a ce file and then hook it manually. However, Cheat Engine is perfectly capable of all of that. However, Cheat Engine is supposed to help you at finding codes.. it's not a universal cheat/hack/all-inclusive solution such as Gecko dotNET or WiiRd. However, Cheat Engine can pull of everything WiiRd can from disassembling applications, browing application memory, breakpoints (access, read/write, execute!) - ArtMoney cannot, but ArtMoney is really quite a simple app for beginners.
Title: Re: Can you make PS3 cheat app?
Post by: wiiztec on May 15, 2013, 03:45:47 AM
Any news on this?