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I recommend not updating at all. Lots of changes for stuff you dont need.

It deletes homebrew channel under J0DI and HAXX

Restubs a couple of IOS's that are used for cIOS and such.

New IOS80

Do not update. ;)

http://wii.marcansoft.com/wiimpersonator/reports/USA/20100622-025701.log
http://wii.marcansoft.com/wiimpersonator/reports/USA/20100622-023732.log

By the way. This update does not do anything beneficial... at all. Aside from maybe IOS80, but i dont think anyone knows what it's for. No new improved functionality that you'll notice.

Thanks for the Update I just noticed that they didn't do a stub for IOS 224

Heh, for some reason I was actually thinking about this earlier today.  It's been a long time since the last update.

EDIT:  Information from Hackmii.com...

Source:  http://www.hackmii.com/2010/07/hackmii-installer-v0-7/ (http://www.hackmii.com/2010/07/hackmii-installer-v0-7/)

QuoteAfter more than four weeks we believe we’ve finally reached the point for the next public release of the HackMii Installer: v0.7.

A lot of changes and improvements went into this release. After quite some headaches and a few puzzles (thanks Erant!) we stockpiled over 250 commits since v0.6, increasing the compatibility with even more Wiis.

The installer now works completely differently, The Homebrew Channel got a few new features and a new look, and BootMii received a fair amount of minor improvements too.

Next to the usual minor fixes, these are the changes worth mentioning:

HackMii Installer (v0.7)

    * New exploit to enable (un-) installation of all components on fully updated Wiis (up to, and including System Menu v4.3).
    * Proper support for all regions, including KOR.
    * General overhaul: the installer now requires BootMii/IOS to function. It will automatically be installed upon startup â€" either if BootMii/IOS is not installed or if it is older than the version this release comes with.
    * DVDX died a horrible death. Rumor has it that someone dropped a snapple bottle on its head.
    * Additional installer binary bootmini.elf, see the included README.txt for more infos.

BootMii beta 5 (v1.2):

    * Compatible with more SD cards.
    * New font, borrowed from the deceased Twilight Hack.
    * The button combination when restoring a NAND backup with only BootMii/IOS was impossible to perform with some pads. It has been changed to the Konami Code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami_Code).

The Homebrew Channel (v1.0.7):

    * New title id to circumvent its deletion by System Menu v4.3.
    * New look from our favorite pixel artist drmr.
    * Both views now show five rows of application entries.
    * On-NAND settings.
      The selected device, sort order, view and application are saved. Settings are restored when reentering HBC.
      The settings can be deleted via the System Menu’s Data Management.
    * HBC now has the HW_AHBPROT (http://www.hackmii.com/2009/08/of-tmds-and-hardware/) flags set for direct hardware access, thus replacing DVDX.
    * Ability to not reload IOS when launching an application.
      This effectively means that loaded applications inherit the title id, gaining direct hardware access via HW_AHBPROT.
      To use this feature, add  <no_ios_reload/> to the <app> node in your meta.xml file.
      wiiloaded binaries automatically gain direct hardware access.
      libogc SVN (starting with r4166) has been extended for this feature. DI_Init() will detect if an application has been launched this way, and DVD access should just work without any changes to your code.
    * USB access is more stable, thanks to tueidj
    * Fixed the retry mechanism for the network initialization.
    * Fixed some rare hangs upon launch and exit (Hopefully all of them).
    * A little surprise, to be announced soon. Refrain from bugging us about it, you’ll know soon enough ;)

If you have installed HBC v1.0.7, it is safe to update your Wii to System Menu v4.3.

Please note that HBC’s update check now contains data in the referrer string unique to each Wii. Its sole purpose is for anonymous usage statistics.

Before asking questions, please read the included README files. You will also find information about how to report problems and encountered bugs.

Thanks to all the beta testers, it’s been a long ride.

Either grab the new installer here (http://bootmii.org/), or use the HBC online update (a confirmation dialog should pop up when launching an older version of HBC).

As always: Please link to this post instead of mirroring the binary, thanks.

Enjoy.

Source:  http://www.hackmii.com/2010/06/system-menu-4-3-update/ (http://www.hackmii.com/2010/06/system-menu-4-3-update/)

QuoteIt’s been a quiet few months around here â€" Nintendo seems to have been neglecting the Wii. We expected to see a firmware update bundled with Super Mario Galaxy 2, but found no such thing â€" however, a few weeks later, we have ourselves a brand new 4.3 update. As usual, Nintendo describes the update (http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/systemMenuFeatures.jsp) as:

   

QuoteJune 21, 2010

    Wii Menu 4.3

    Unauthorized Modifications

    Because unauthorized channels or firmware may impair game play or the Wii console, updating to Wii Menu version 4.3 will check for and automatically remove such unauthorized files. In addition, there are some behind the scenes enhancements that do not affect any prominently-used features or menus but will improve system performance.

    If you are seeing “Error:004,” please click here (http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/ts/error004.jsp).

What a disappointment… this is just a rehash of, well … every update in the past 2 years, except for the 4.0 update (which actually added some features). The only thing that will drive people to install this update will be the broken Shopping channel and hypothetical future games which will come with this update on disc.

Anyway, here’s the technical changelog â€" much of this can be seen in the last few Wiimpersonator reports (http://wii.marcansoft.com/wiimpersonator/reports/USA/).

IOS

    * Fixes in all versions â€" the 2 exploits we were using in the HackMii Installer, as well as the /tmp bug that has existed forever and a half and been used by everyone else to downgrade IOS. Updated existing IOSes (9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 21, 22, 28, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 53, 55, 56, 57, 61)
    * Added two new IOSes â€" IOS80 and IOS58. IOS80 continues the trend of a new IOSx0 for each system menu, and IOS70 was stubbed out. IOS58 was previously only found on one disc, and is interesting because it contains an EHCI (USB2.0)
    * Added a stub IOS that will finally overwrite BootMii/IOS with a higher version number.

System Menu

    * Updated to block title IDs â€" HAXX, JODI, DISC, DISK
    * Updated to *really* block Bannerbomb â€" shows Error 004 now

So there’s nothing interesting at all in this update. Just the usual bugfixes. They do get credit this time to actually block exploits. The Bannerbomb block seems to be stable this time and they didn’t leave our privilege escalation exploit unfixed like in the last update.

We’re currently working on new exploits and a new release of the HackMii installer but we’ll spend some more time to obfuscate our exploits this time to make it harder for ninty to find and fix them. It might therefore take some more time until our next release.
Just don’t update â€" there’s nothing interesting in this update anyway.

EDIT:  Information from Wiibrew.org about the 4.3 System Menu...

Source:   http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.3 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.3)

QuoteChanges

    * Deletes the Homebrew Channel (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Channel) and DVDX (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/DVDX), title IDs HAXX, DVDX, JODI, DISC, and DISK.
    * Now uses IOS80 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS80).
    * IOS254 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS254) stubbed BootMii (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/BootMii) is deleted.
    * Fixed Bannerbomb less stupidly this time.
    * Added IOS58 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58).
    * HackMii Installer Userland+Syscall IOS exploit removed
    * NANDFS privilege escalation fixed
    * ES_AddTitleFinish now checks the signature(Trucha Bug Restorer (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Trucha_Bug_Restorer) and similar won't work anymore)


What to do

    * Don't update yet.

Also, here is some information from the Nintendo website about it...

Source:  http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/systemMenuFeatures.jsp (http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/systemMenuFeatures.jsp)

QuoteWii Menu 4.3

Unauthorized Modifications
Because unauthorized channels or firmware may impair game play or the Wii console, updating to Wii Menu version 4.3 will check for and automatically remove such unauthorized files. In addition, there are some behind the scenes enhancements that do not affect any prominently-used features or menus but will improve system performance.

If you are seeing "Error:004," please click here (http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/ts/error004.jsp).

Apparently, as stated in the original post, all that it does is remove things related to exploits for the Wii console.

EDIT:  Interesting explanation from Nintendo about "Error:004"...

Source:  http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/ts/error004.jsp (http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/ts/error004.jsp)

QuoteWii Error:004

The error code you received indicates the system is attempting to load unauthorized software. Unauthorized modifications to save data or program files may impair game play or the Wii console and should be removed.

Will this block the gamecube action replay.  The gamecube action replay i have works on system menu 4.2e

The 4.3 System Menu doesn't update the MIOS, so the GameCube Action Replay should still work on it (unless the System Menu looks for it).

I also checked the update log.. nothing worth upgrading to me.. it only seems to fix IOS security holes and as of such no reason to upgrade. I stick to 4.1!

The only new function I see is the USB camera support for some kind of game, but this is included in IOS58 and not in the system menu so still no need to update cause you can still install the IOS.

The update also doesn't touch IOS236. But it fixes at least one of the exploits that Trucha Bug Restorer is using, so maybe there will never be an updated TBR.

Everybody who updates to 4.3 and still wants to use homebrew is stupid. If there's any need to update, it will be figured out in the next days and a method to update without loosing homebrew. This time it won't be as easy as the last time as bannerbomb may be gone forever.

I still wonder.. no new features.. nothing.. just security upgrades? Really?

They spent 9 months on an update without any features? Either they are really going insane or well.. maybe they really worked out 9 months of security.. meaning it will take 9 days until it's broken ;) . Well, so far, I'd say, Europeans and Japanese lack an exploit (US people have the (probably) unfixable Stack Smash) - or did they (again) forget to fix Indiana Pwns (http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Indiana_Pwns)? I do not see a log saying that it was fixed but it would be really stupid if they forgot that!

I know I know the Hackmii installer does not work and whatever.. but yeah, as long as an exploit for running homebrew exists it basically "only" (okay, make that a major only) a new installer work-around!

Someone on 'a certain website' confirmed that Stack Smash and Indiana Pwns still work.

lol did you really think, nintendo doesn't fix it?
I think nintendo is not sooo stupid.

Quote from: Romaap on June 22, 2010, 02:38:50 PM
Someone on 'a certain website' confirmed that Stack Smash and Indiana Pwns still work.

Well, I do not wonder abotu Stack Smash.. Stack Smash is literally unfixable given the Wii's internal way of working.. Indiana Pwns would have been fixable.. but well.. may I laugh..

I do anyway  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D >:D

but it's a ntsc hack and not pal!?

Quote from: Deathwolf on June 22, 2010, 02:57:28 PM
but it's a ntsc hack and not pal!?

Stack Smash is US only.. but Indiana Pwns is cross-region!

Remember everyone, even though you bought the Wii hardware with your money, and you buy the games with your money, you don't actually own any of it.  You're licensing it from Nintendo.  That is why they are allowed to get rid of these "unauthorized" modifications - as if something that *I* did to *MY* Wii was "unauthorized".

The Wii Shop channel has been updated so you can't use it unless the update is installed.  Use DOP-Shop to update the shop channel to v19.

Quote from: dcx2 on June 22, 2010, 09:16:56 PM
Remember everyone, even though you bought the Wii hardware with your money, and you buy the games with your money, you don't actually own any of it.  You're licensing it from Nintendo.  That is why they are allowed to get rid of these "unauthorized" modifications - as if something that *I* did to *MY* Wii was "unauthorized".

That is correct by American law, in Europe you do not buy a license to use it, you are actual OWNER of your console. (guess why reverse engineering is much less of a problem over here)

Quote from: dcx2 on June 22, 2010, 09:16:56 PM
Remember everyone, even though you bought the Wii hardware with your money, and you buy the games with your money, you don't actually own any of it.  You're licensing it from Nintendo.  That is why they are allowed to get rid of these "unauthorized" modifications - as if something that *I* did to *MY* Wii was "unauthorized".

Quote from: Link on June 22, 2010, 10:16:46 PM
That is correct by American law, in Europe you do not buy a license to use it, you are actual OWNER of your console. (guess why reverse engineering is much less of a problem over here)

I've heard this before.  Do you know of any sites where I can read about this?  Also, does it really apply to the actual hardware, or does the license just apply to the software that is running on it?

Is nintendo really that retarded to just make an update that removes hacks? Im sure any educated person who hacks their Wii knows not to update it. >.> QQ at nintendo.

cocacolafire - Nintendo knows this isn't going to stop piracy.  They just want to give customers a headache.  They want the uneducated masses to be afraid of using unsigned applications.  To that end, they succeed.

111 - You know all those End User License Agreements (EULA, "yoo-lah") that we like to avoid reading?  To know the truth, you'd have to carefully read that. 

From the Nintendo Wii EULA:

Chapter II: Unauthorized Software, Services, or Devices or Unlicensed Accessories

      Your Wii Console and the Wii Network Service are not designed for use with unauthorized software, services, or devices or non-licensed accessories, and you may not use any of these with your Wii Console or the Wii Network Service. Such use may be illegal, voids any warranty, and is a breach of this agreement. Such use may also lead to injury to you or others or cause performance issues or damage to your Wii Console or the Wii Network Service. We (and our licensees and distributors) are not responsible for damage or loss caused by unauthorized software, services or devices or non-licensed accessories. We may take steps to disable or delete any unauthorized software, services or device installed in your Wii Console, for example, by detecting and disabling them through the Wii Network Service and/or game software. If we detect unauthorized software, services, or devices, your access to the Wii Network Service may be disabled and/or the Wii Console or games may be unplayable.

Chapter III: Updates/Changes

      You understand that the Wii Console specifications and the Wii Network Service are constantly evolving and that we may update or change your Wii Console or the Wii Network Service in whole or in part, without notice to you. Such updates may be required for you to play new Wii games or continue to access the Wii Network Service. We may also upgrade, change, or terminate the Content or game software or may discontinue offering Products without notice to you.

QuoteSuch updates may be required for you to play new Wii games or continue to access the Wii Network Service. We may also upgrade, change, or terminate the Content or game software or may discontinue offering Products without notice to you.

Lol at nintendo xD they screw themselves here. lemme go over how that is true that they just want to do that.
1: Ohh look the wii now has a clock on the main menu! HOW BADASS IS THAT?!!!(Also the homebrew stuff gets whiped out)
2: Oh look wii speak and internet update along with a useless channel(nintendo channel) to spam us with game advertizements.(homebrew tackle again)
3: AWESOME you (tried to) stoped hackers and added a useless little Icon that takes you straight to the SD management screen. *claps in surprise*
4: Dude....where's the update....oh look the system menu says 4.2U now instead of 4.2E wooooooowwwww

Quote from: lskennedyX on June 22, 2010, 10:01:15 PM
The Wii Shop channel has been updated so you can't use it unless the update is installed.  Use DOP-Shop to update the shop channel to v19.

Where can i find the latest shop updater as i download that DOP-Shop updater thing and it said my wii shop channel is up to date in the top right hand corner clearly this program needs updating.

Quote from: Nintendo
Such use may also lead to injury to you or others.

....

Quote from: Romaap on June 23, 2010, 11:53:02 AM

Quote from: Nintendo
Such use may also lead to injury to you or others.

....

I see you do not know the dangers of modding.. especially softmods can cause major headache if you do not know what you do!

Quote

WiiBrew recommends that you do not update your Wii through Nintendo.
However, if you have updated or wish to update, you can use the latest version of the HackMii Installer to regain full functionality.
Downgrading or installing patched updates is dangerous and may brick your Wii.

Whatever happened to Galaxii? I think Indiana Pwns should be the one they pretend doesn't exist, a lot more people have SMG then LIJ

Quote from: Nintendo
Such use may also lead to injury to you or others.

Apparently Nintendo has hired ninjas to secretly destroy unauthorized modification users. Also, I heard they will be releasing a grand theft auto type of game where you are one of the ninjas who is set out on a bunch of missions to destroy unauthorized modification users, gets pretty gruesome.

Quote from: Sharkbyte on June 22, 2010, 06:05:50 PM
imagine nintendo puts a little "gift" in disc updates like the new zelda game which FORCES you to update and they refuse to let you play it without updating, and preloader's/priiloader's skip update option does not work.

You can just use startpatch to block the need of disk updates, this only works with menu versions 3.2 through 4.2 though.
You must get the startpatch that is made for the version of your wii or it might brick, otherwise it's fine, here is a link for all the versions of startpatch you can download: http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Startpatch#Download (http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Startpatch#Download)  :)

So how do you install the homebrew channel on 4.3e will bannerbomeb be fixed

Quote from: justin28 on June 24, 2010, 04:56:10 AM
So how do you install the homebrew channel on 4.3e will bannerbomeb be fixed

U will find your Answer on the first page of posts .

One is Smash ______
And the other is Indi ______ <-- u would want this one since your E. but u will have to hold up untill someone posts a name changed one or Hackmii peeps release another version with maybe custom Names ..

was thinking they could make a 4 Digit Hash from the WiiID. to make the HBC ID then it would be Per Wii and would never be blocked by a Name Deleter .. 

Quote from: dcx2 on June 23, 2010, 03:41:02 AM
cocacolafire - Nintendo knows this isn't going to stop piracy.  They just want to give customers a headache.  They want the uneducated masses to be afraid of using unsigned applications.  To that end, they succeed.

111 - You know all those End User License Agreements (EULA, "yoo-lah") that we like to avoid reading?  To know the truth, you'd have to carefully read that. 

From the Nintendo Wii EULA:...

Thanks for that.  However, wouldn't you still own the actual hardware?  I don't know, but it would make sense to me (in a way) that you have a license to use the software, but don't actually own it.  Would you just have a license to the hardware as well?

This is not really related to Nintendo, but what about Sony?  In case you don't know, Sony removed a feature ("OtherOS," I believe) from the PlayStation 3, and there have since been numerous brought up against them for it.  The main claim is that it was an advertised feature of the PlayStation 3.  If this applies to Sony products as well, do those people basically have no argument?

Quote from: Sharkbyte on June 24, 2010, 02:52:09 AM

Quote from: WiiRdgamer on June 24, 2010, 02:15:55 AM

Quote from: Sharkbyte on June 22, 2010, 06:05:50 PM
imagine nintendo puts a little "gift" in disc updates like the new zelda game which FORCES you to update and they refuse to let you play it without updating, and preloader's/priiloader's skip update option does not work.

You can just use startpatch to block the need of disk updates, this only works with menu versions 3.2 through 4.2 though.
You must get the startpatch that is made for the version of your wii or it might brick, otherwise it's fine, here is a link for all the versions of startpatch you can download: http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Startpatch#Download (http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Startpatch#Download)  :)

You misunderstood my point. nintendo's update is new. startpatch is older. what if nintendo disables it from working and forces a disc update? What if they bypass it? (probably not going to happen, but things to think about)

Apparently, there are already some Priiloader hacks for 4.3, along with a "safe" 4.3 updater.  I'm not linking to that site, though.

I might try the 4.3 updater on SNEEK later on, if possible.  However, I see no point.  I updated to the 4.3 System Menu on SNEEK, and there really is no positive difference at all between it and 4.2.

Quote from: justin28 on June 24, 2010, 04:56:10 AM
So how do you install the homebrew channel on 4.3e will bannerbomeb be fixed

Right now, you can't install the Homebrew Channel on an official 4.3 update.  Also, from what I've heard, Bannerbomb is likely gone for good.

Can you use the smash brothers exploite on a pal wii

Quote from: justin28 on June 24, 2010, 05:31:55 AM
Can you use the smash brothers exploite on a pal wii

No, Stack Smash was attempted to be ported on PAL and NTSC-J but it won't work there!

Do you think they will fix bannerbomb

Quote from: justin28 on June 24, 2010, 06:02:39 AM
Do you think they will fix bannerbomb

According to all information I have bannerbomb is indeed fixed and this time it's been done properly! So no coming back.
Pretty much like the Twilight Hack which came up with 3.2, survived 3.3, kinda survived 3.4 because of stupidity.
And bannerbomb came up with 3.4/4.0, survived 4.1 and again survived 4.2 because of stupidity. However, I do not think it will return!

Wii Menu 4.3

Unauthorized Modifications
Because unauthorized channels or firmware may impair game play or the Wii console, updating to Wii Menu version 4.3 will check for and automatically remove such unauthorized files. In addition, there are some behind the scenes enhancements that do not affect any prominently-used features or menus but will improve system performance.[/size]

can anyone tell me how this will impair game play or the wii console as ive never had any problems nintendo must think we are idiots to believe that crap

Source:  http://www.hackmii.com/2010/06/system-menu-4-3-update/ (http://www.hackmii.com/2010/06/system-menu-4-3-update/)

QuoteIt’s been a quiet few months around here â€" Nintendo seems to have been neglecting the Wii. We expected to see a firmware update bundled with Super Mario Galaxy 2, but found no such thing â€" however, a few weeks later, we have ourselves a brand new 4.3 update. As usual, Nintendo describes the update (http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/systemMenuFeatures.jsp) as:

   

QuoteJune 21, 2010

    Wii Menu 4.3

    Unauthorized Modifications

    Because unauthorized channels or firmware may impair game play or the Wii console, updating to Wii Menu version 4.3 will check for and automatically remove such unauthorized files. In addition, there are some behind the scenes enhancements that do not affect any prominently-used features or menus but will improve system performance.

    If you are seeing “Error:004,” please click here (http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/ts/error004.jsp).

What a disappointment… this is just a rehash of, well … every update in the past 2 years, except for the 4.0 update (which actually added some features). The only thing that will drive people to install this update will be the broken Shopping channel and hypothetical future games which will come with this update on disc.

Anyway, here’s the technical changelog â€" much of this can be seen in the last few Wiimpersonator reports (http://wii.marcansoft.com/wiimpersonator/reports/USA/).

IOS

    * Fixes in all versions â€" the 2 exploits we were using in the HackMii Installer, as well as the /tmp bug that has existed forever and a half and been used by everyone else to downgrade IOS. Updated existing IOSes (9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 21, 22, 28, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 53, 55, 56, 57, 61)
    * Added two new IOSes â€" IOS80 and IOS58. IOS80 continues the trend of a new IOSx0 for each system menu, and IOS70 was stubbed out. IOS58 was previously only found on one disc, and is interesting because it contains an EHCI (USB2.0)
    * Added a stub IOS that will finally overwrite BootMii/IOS with a higher version number.

System Menu

    * Updated to block title IDs â€" HAXX, JODI, DISC, DISK
    * Updated to *really* block Bannerbomb â€" shows Error 004 now

So there’s nothing interesting at all in this update. Just the usual bugfixes. They do get credit this time to actually block exploits. The Bannerbomb block seems to be stable this time and they didn’t leave our privilege escalation exploit unfixed like in the last update.

We’re currently working on new exploits and a new release of the HackMii installer but we’ll spend some more time to obfuscate our exploits this time to make it harder for ninty to find and fix them. It might therefore take some more time until our next release.
Just don’t update â€" there’s nothing interesting in this update anyway.

Sooo what they mean by impair my gameplay experiance is the occasional freezing of the game at a possibly inconveniant time? Big woop, honestly, nintendo should just give up and make homebrew channel an acceptable version of action replay for the wii lmao. Or make some action replay ish channel like that so the scardy cats dun have to mod their system to get homebrew style fun with the games at least XD

Does the Lego Indiana Jones hack still work

Quote from: justin28 on June 25, 2010, 05:45:32 AM
Does the Lego Indiana Jones hack still work

Yes, Indiana Pwns (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Indiana_Pwns) and the Smash Stack (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Smash_Stack) both still work.

Trouble is smash stack doesn't work on a pal wii wish it did as i have super smash brother brawl surely someone could covert it into pal format.

Quote from: justin28 on June 25, 2010, 06:26:37 AM
Trouble is smash stack doesn't work on a pal wii wish it did as i have super smash brother brawl surely someone could covert it into pal format.

That's true with the Smash Stack.  However, Indiana Pwns works for all regions, except Korean.  Right now, I think that Indiana Pwns the only option for people on either the 4.3E or 4.3J System Menu.

I take it the game i need is Indiana Jones the original adventures.

So, how does one use DOP-Shop to update the Wii Shop Channel? I've got some VC/WiiWare stuff I want to download and I am NOT going to use their update service to get into the Shop Channel.

Yes it does update the wii shop channel without getting rid of the Hombrew channel, or updating your wii to 4.3.  ;)
If you get dop-shop, install shop channel v19.
Download link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PBCLFCKV (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PBCLFCKV)

I've been running Menu 4.3 since before I started cheating with Ocarina/Gecko. so, if I read you post right, it's alright for me to simply download it from Nintendo as my system wants to do and I won't lose my apps or get my system bricked? (I ask because DOP-Shop's installer seems to have not worked, since I still get the "You must update" message.)

You have menu 4.3? Then you should have the wii shop channel all squared away, are you sure you have menu 4.3 because this whole topic is about how you shouldn't update your wii to 4.3 right now. Make sure in dop-shop you install shop channel v19.

I did set DOP-Shop to download v19. I left the room to make a sandwich, came back, it was back at the HBC menu. I tried to get into Shop Channel and it didn't work. EDIT: And I'm positive I have 4.3 because 4.3 had already come out by the time I decided to try cheat hacking and I'd done a system update not too long before that.

I used Bannerbomb. DOP-Shop -seems- to be correctly installing IOS61 and Wii Shop v19 now, but it's frozen on me twice before and not done a thing.

EDIT: Okay; Wii Shop installed and game downloaded. Dunno what the issue was; I did everything exactly the same every time.

Quote from: KamenRiderGumo on June 26, 2010, 02:43:22 AM
I used Bannerbomb. DOP-Shop -seems- to be correctly installing IOS61 and Wii Shop v19 now, but it's frozen on me twice before and not done a thing.

EDIT: Okay; Wii Shop installed and game downloaded. Dunno what the issue was; I did everything exactly the same every time.

HOW DID YOU GET BANNERBOMB TO WORK ON 4.3???!! :confused:

Kamen, if you had cheats before this week, you were not running 4.3.  You probably had 4.2.  4.3 came out four days ago on Monday, 6/21/10.

My mistake, then; I thought that this was the same topic I'd initially posted in about Ocarina, etc; that must have been the 4.2 topic and my dyslexic mind screwed it up.

I tried the indiana pwns code and tried to install the homebrew channel  and it said no vulnerable was found ios installed what should i do

If it told you the IOS that wasn't there, try installing it, then try to install the hombrew channel again. If it didn't work try another way to install the hombrew channel, bannerbomb is a way were you don't even need to buy a game to install the hombrew channel.

Quote from: WiiRdgamer on June 26, 2010, 01:58:05 PM
If it told you the IOS that wasn't there, try installing it, then try to install the hombrew channel again. If it didn't work try another way to install the hombrew channel, bannerbomb is a way were you don't even need to buy a game to install the hombrew channel.

I tried the bannerbomb :3 it works on 4.2 not sure if it works on 4.3 though X_X unless they updated it for 4.3

Quote from: justin28 on June 26, 2010, 08:55:53 AM
I tried the indiana pwns code and tried to install the homebrew channel  and it said no vulnerable was found ios installed what should i do

If you updated to 4.3 officially through Nintendo, then it's telling you that no vulnerable IOS was found because the exploits that the HackMii Installer used have been fixed on those versions of IOS.  As of right now, it is not possible to install the Homebrew Channel on an official 4.3 update.  Don't try to install any IOS versions (doubt that you can, anyway), and wait for a new version of the HackMii Installer which works on the 4.3 System Menu.

Ok, Am I the only one that never got a message from nintendo informing about a new update?

I only know that 4.3 is out now due to reading it on here :S

I've checked and I never got any messages on my wii about this.  Did anyone else?

ACK!!! IM SOOO SCREWED!!! Was babysitting my nephew last night and he downloaded the 4.3 update!!!! :'( He also downloaded super mario bros 3 from wii shop channel (which is where I guess he got the update from) and took 500 points or whatnot on my account (was saving for sm64 :'( )

Anywho, I'm screwed! Can't get to gecko :'(

I've read this topic a bit and noticed that a lot of people say the "Smash Brothers" hack aka "Smash Stack" works and was curious on what to do to get Gecko Back.

I tried going to WiiBrew and all I got to see was "No vulnerable IOS" :(

Is there some way I can get GeckoOS or some other cheat thing working? Or am I screwed until they come out with a fix for the fix? :'(

Guess you aren't a very good babysitter.

I was making supper and the tv was on mute :P

hmm maybe it's possible to port the smash stack st.bin to pal.
I have no idea how it works, because the instructions are unreadable...

"No vulnerable IOS" since update 4.3.
Maybe nintendo wins?

You can't install HBC, because the old hole was closed.  TT will release a new Hackmii installer with a new HBC soon enough.

Stack Smash is an exploit that you normally use to run Hackmii installer.  However, you could run Gecko OS with the exploit, too.

I would just wait for an updated Hackmii installer if I were you.  And make sure you have a copy of Smash Bros or the Indiana Jones game so you can launch the installer.  Hopefully there's a new exploit soon...

all exploits are NTSC...
I didn't think it's again possible to install the hbc via SD card menu.

even stack smash is unportable and saves are not regionfree...

Indiana Pwns is region free

an regionfree exploit?
btw do u really think, all 4.3 users buy this software (indiana pwns)?
indiana pwns is the game you must buy for hbc.

yes it's the same by zelda but again? lol

from the end return to the begin

Quote from: Deathwolf on June 26, 2010, 07:42:02 PM
btw do u really think, all 4.3 users buy this software (indiana pwns)?

At the price it is, and what it can do, I would :) But already had Smash Bros lol.

Quote from: dcx2 on June 26, 2010, 07:33:40 PM
You can't install HBC, because the old hole was closed.  TT will release a new Hackmii installer with a new HBC soon enough.

Stack Smash is an exploit that you normally use to run Hackmii installer.  However, you could run Gecko OS with the exploit, too.

I would just wait for an updated Hackmii installer if I were you.  And make sure you have a copy of Smash Bros or the Indiana Jones game so you can launch the installer.  Hopefully there's a new exploit soon...

*cries*

Oh well, I'll just play the new games I got. I don't cheat until I beat it once anyways so I got some time to kill lol

Hopefully sooner than later...

Quote from: mrdefender on June 26, 2010, 08:19:59 PM

Quote from: Deathwolf on June 26, 2010, 07:42:02 PM
btw do u really think, all 4.3 users buy this software (indiana pwns)?

At the price it is, and what it can do, I would :) But already had Smash Bros lol.

Quote from: dcx2 on June 26, 2010, 07:33:40 PM
You can't install HBC, because the old hole was closed.  TT will release a new Hackmii installer with a new HBC soon enough.

Stack Smash is an exploit that you normally use to run Hackmii installer.  However, you could run Gecko OS with the exploit, too.

I would just wait for an updated Hackmii installer if I were you.  And make sure you have a copy of Smash Bros or the Indiana Jones game so you can launch the installer.  Hopefully there's a new exploit soon...

*cries*

Oh well, I'll just play the new games I got. I don't cheat until I beat it once anyways so I got some time to kill lol

Hopefully sooner than later...

If you have the NTSC version of Super Smash Brothers Brawl, or (I believe) LEGO Indiana Jones, you could load a homebrew loader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/List_of_homebrew_loaders) through the exploit, instead of the HackMii Installer.  This will allow you to use the exploit to load a list of homebrew applications that you can select.  This is what people used to do with the Twilight Hack, before the Homebrew Channel existed.  However, this method should currently work pretty well for 4.3.

Unfortunately, the Homebrew Channel would probably still be the most convenient way to run homebrew applications.  I also can't say if some homebrew applications have any problems with other loaders, as the only loader I use is the Homebrew Channel.

and what happens if you have only the PAL version?
ssbb is already a "must have" for some people.
a stack smash exploit for pal would be nice.

I don't know what would happen if you tried the Smash Stack on a PAL version of Super Smash Brothers Brawl.  My guess is that the game would probably just crash.

I agree, though.  It would be very nice if someone could make that exploit work on all regions.  Seems like that one would be very hard for Nintendo to patch, although not impossible.

I've tried it on PAL.
it load the stage and finally it freez.

hmm why it only works on NTSC?
it's a binary data and the instructions are unreadable.
maybe there is a SD load bug or something wrong in the RAM? (only by NTSC)

whatever it's possible via ssbb

Quote from: 111 on June 26, 2010, 09:12:53 PM
If you have the NTSC version of Super Smash Brothers Brawl, or (I believe) LEGO Indiana Jones, you could load a homebrew loader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/List_of_homebrew_loaders) through the exploit, instead of the HackMii Installer.  This will allow you to use the exploit to load a list of homebrew applications that you can select.  This is what people used to do with the Twilight Hack, before the Homebrew Channel existed.  However, this method should currently work pretty well for 4.3.

Unfortunately, the Homebrew Channel would probably still be the most convenient way to run homebrew applications.  I also can't say if some homebrew applications have any problems with other loaders, as the only loader I use is the Homebrew Channel.

How? :confused:

I knew the 4.3 update would come soon. knowing nintendo, unless a they make a new nintendo console, they are going to keep updating the wii.

Nintendo is always trying to stop hackers, but hackers do always find a new way/solution to hack, so the war never ends. ;D

Quote from: mrdefender on June 27, 2010, 07:04:12 AM

Quote from: 111 on June 26, 2010, 09:12:53 PM
If you have the NTSC version of Super Smash Brothers Brawl, or (I believe) LEGO Indiana Jones, you could load a homebrew loader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/List_of_homebrew_loaders) through the exploit, instead of the HackMii Installer.  This will allow you to use the exploit to load a list of homebrew applications that you can select.  This is what people used to do with the Twilight Hack, before the Homebrew Channel existed.  However, this method should currently work pretty well for 4.3.

Unfortunately, the Homebrew Channel would probably still be the most convenient way to run homebrew applications.  I also can't say if some homebrew applications have any problems with other loaders, as the only loader I use is the Homebrew Channel.

How? :confused:

First, you would need to have Super Smash Brothers Brawl (NTSC) and/or LEGO Indiana Jones, and the ability to use the Smash Stack and/or Indiana Pwns.  Next, you may possibly need a homebrew loader, which will allow you to have the ability to select many different homebrew applications at once.  When you download the loader, you would need to change the DOL or ELF file to "boot.dol" or "boot.elf", if it wasn't like that already.  Below is a list of Wii homebrew loaders...

http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/List_of_homebrew_loaders (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/List_of_homebrew_loaders)

You would need to select the loader that you feel is most appropriate for you.  Depending on the loader that you select, there might be different instructions on where to place the homebrew applications on your SD card and/or USB device.  If you need any help with getting it set up, ask around here.

Additionally, if the only homebrew program that you care about is GeckoOS, then you can just download GeckoOS 1.9.3.1, and place the "boot.elf" file on the root of your SD card.  Keep in mind, however, that this will not allow you to easily switch to another homebrew application.  You will have to manually change the "boot.elf" or "boot.dol" to another program through your computer.  Download GeckoOS 1.9.3.1 by clicking on the link below...

http://wiird.l0nk.org/projectfiles/Gecko1931.zip (http://wiird.l0nk.org/projectfiles/Gecko1931.zip)

Anyway, until a new version of the HackMii Installer is released, this is the only way for someone who updated to 4.3 through Nintendo, and no longer has the Homebrew Channel.

I'm no way a hacker of any sort so I don't quite understand, which is why I'm asking this, but...

What's wrong with what you guys are doing? I'm just using GeckoOS so I figure it like Action Replay or GameShark or something which I never hear Nintendo Suing them for their things...


So what's the problem? What are you guys doing that's so "wrong" ? You're not working on making all Wii's take over the world or anything are you? lol

<== doesn't understand :(

There are two levels of wrong that are happening.

The first level of wrong is piracy.  People can use the Homebrew Channel to download games from the Internet without buying them.  There are many subtleties to the piracy argument, but most people agree that downloading games is bad.

The second level of wrong is "running unsigned code".  That is, when someone wants to write a game for the Wii, they have to go to Nintendo and pay them some money for a digital signature that the publisher can then use to sign the game, allowing it to run.  This ensures that the only things running on the Wii are what Nintendo wants running on it.  Ostensibly, this is to protect against piracy, but from Nintendo's standpoint if you run Homebrew and don't buy any games, you're as important as a pirate to them because they aren't getting any more of your money.

Most people tend not to agree with that, considering that they paid money to buy hardware, and they ought to be able to do what they want as long as they aren't stealing games.

I'm not sure if it has been mentioned yet but to get the updated shop channel go here:

http://wiibrew.org/wiki/WiiSCU

And go down to "Which version should I get?" and download the v0.24 version and update it to v19.

I'm sure most people already know this but I figured I'd mention it in case it hasn't already been said and there are people trying to figure out how to get an updated shop channel.

How to ask this... lol... Is there any site I can stop by to see the progress on an upcoming hbc fix for 4.3? Just kinda curious to know when one can be expected but don't want to bother anyone to death for it lol

http://hackmii.com/

thx :)

Good to see they are working on a new Hackmii installer hopefully they will find a way for the super stack thing to work on a pal wii.  The main reason why i love the Homebrew channel is for the cheats and region free.  Me living in Australia this is fantastic we usually get games last in our region

nobody know why it only works on ntsc...
for me, a stage.binary data is regionfree but okay

I have a question.My wii is PAL so i got smg2 the 11th June.It came with an update so i updated.after i was done i went to the wii options menu to see what version i had,it was 4.2.So i installed HBC with bannerbomb and it worked fine.Why do people say that bannerbomb is fixed?

Wait so if i connect to internet i cant use shop channel or anything?

Quote from: 111 on June 27, 2010, 05:22:47 PM
First, you would need to have [...]
Anyway, until a new version of the HackMii Installer is released, this is the only way for someone who updated to 4.3 through Nintendo, and no longer has the Homebrew Channel.

Works like a charm :) Had to find Ocarina cause I remembered it had a GCT program but now I'm able to use cheats again. Kinda was spectacle though... Wondered how i was going to load another game other than Brawl with cheats since the dvd had to be in the Wii for this to work. But I guess Gecko Gets loaded from the SD card and doesn't need to have the dvd in the wii for it to work lol

Quote from: Sharkbyte on June 29, 2010, 03:08:24 PM

Quote from: sneakywolfshoe on June 29, 2010, 02:58:31 PM
Wait so if i connect to internet i cant use shop channel or anything?

You can connect to the internet, you just can't use the shop channel at the moment. (they updated the shop channel again.) I think you'll need the wiiSCU. (i'm not sure if they updated wiiSCU to the latest version yet) use wiiSCU at your own risk as wiibrew says. but do not update via nintendo. ever.

But then i can't play new games right?

Gecko OS will check to see if your game requires a new IOS and it will safely install that IOS for you, without doing the full Nintendo update.

Quote from: mrdefender on June 29, 2010, 07:38:05 PM

Quote from: 111 on June 27, 2010, 05:22:47 PM
First, you would need to have [...]
Anyway, until a new version of the HackMii Installer is released, this is the only way for someone who updated to 4.3 through Nintendo, and no longer has the Homebrew Channel.

Works like a charm :) Had to find Ocarina cause I remembered it had a GCT program but now I'm able to use cheats again. Kinda was spectacle though... Wondered how i was going to load another game other than Brawl with cheats since the dvd had to be in the Wii for this to work. But I guess Gecko Gets loaded from the SD card and doesn't need to have the dvd in the wii for it to work lol

The latest version of GeckoOS has Ocarina support, and is more up to date than the Ocarina application.  By default, you can just start the game through GeckoOS, and the cheat codes that you selected for that game will be applied.  GeckoOS should still work with discs on the 4.3 System Menu.  The only thing that will be broken is channel cheats, since your IOS36 will have been updated.

Also, yes, once the homebrew application has been loaded with either the Smash Stack or Indiana Pwns, then the disc can be ejected from the console.  When you want to run a different game through GeckoOS, just insert the disc of the game that you want to run, or in the case of Super Smash Brothers Brawl and LEGO Indiana Jones, you may have to reinsert the disc, depending on which exploit you used.

Quote from: sneakywolfshoe on June 29, 2010, 10:12:12 PM

Quote from: Sharkbyte on June 29, 2010, 03:08:24 PM

Quote from: sneakywolfshoe on June 29, 2010, 02:58:31 PM
Wait so if i connect to internet i cant use shop channel or anything?

You can connect to the internet, you just can't use the shop channel at the moment. (they updated the shop channel again.) I think you'll need the wiiSCU. (i'm not sure if they updated wiiSCU to the latest version yet) use wiiSCU at your own risk as wiibrew says. but do not update via nintendo. ever.

But then i can't play new games right?

All games need a specific IOS.  The latest version of GeckoOS (http://wiird.l0nk.org/projectfiles/Gecko1931.zip) will install only the IOS that is needed by that game, and nothing else.  You could also try to boot the game through GeckoOS 1.07b (http://wiird.l0nk.org/gos-hbc-dol.zip), and see if you can bypass all updates on the disc.  I am on 3.0U, and for New Super Mario Brothers Wii and Wii Sports Resort, I still had to install the IOS versions that they wanted.  However, for both Mario Kart Wii and Super Smash Brothers Brawl, I did not have to install IOS36.  Therefore, I'm guessing that you will need to install the proper IOS for newer games.

The Shop Channel can also be updated to the latest version, without updating the System Menu.

lol now that i have homebrew channel, when I see the update thing I think this XP

*You've got mail*
Nintendo: Due to illegal operations and software exploits we've updated our firmware that does not benefet you and just stops the annoying hackers from supposidly ruining our games.


Nintendo just give up, hackers are presistant and clever little asses you won't ever be able to stop.  >:D Besides, they should only be erasing shit like dvd players and stuff. Gecko OS more or less is basically just Action Replay isn't it? Maybe somebody should just liscenes it, pattent it and then charge money for it and call it the new action replay. Cause nintendo didn't give shit about action replay at all....

Quote from: zfan121 on June 29, 2010, 10:37:50 PM
lol now that i have homebrew channel, when I see the update thing I think this XP

*You've got mail*
Nintendo: Due to illegal operations and software exploits we've updated our firmware that does not benefet you and just stops the annoying hackers from supposidly ruining our games.


Nintendo just give up, hackers are presistant and clever little asses you won't ever be able to stop.  >:D Besides, they should only be erasing shit like dvd players and stuff. Gecko OS more or less is basically just Action Replay isn't it? Maybe somebody should just liscenes it, pattent it and then charge money for it and call it the new action replay. Cause nintendo didn't give shit about action replay at all....

:D Yeah seriously Nintendo! They have no idea do they, they'll never give up. And I'm suprised Action Replay hasn't thought of such a thing like this. XP

Nintendo hates us game hackers too.
They sued Game Geine (a cheat device like GameShark/ActionReplay/Codebreaker) in the early 90's and lost the lawsuit.
After Game Geine won they tried to play nice and get an official license from Nintendo but Nintendo denied it.
That point in out history is significant for 2 reasons; 1: it makes it pretty clear that all Game Hacking devices will be unlicensed (and thus need to run off exploits), and 2: it makes it legal for game hacking devices to exist and be used.

If nintendo lost the lawsuit to gamegenie, wouldn't that mean that they found the GameGenie to be legal?

Quote from: WiiRdgamer on June 30, 2010, 01:20:24 AM

Quote from: zfan121 on June 29, 2010, 10:37:50 PM
lol now that i have homebrew channel, when I see the update thing I think this XP

*You've got mail*
Nintendo: Due to illegal operations and software exploits we've updated our firmware that does not benefet you and just stops the annoying hackers from supposidly ruining our games.


Nintendo just give up, hackers are presistant and clever little asses you won't ever be able to stop.  >:D Besides, they should only be erasing shit like dvd players and stuff. Gecko OS more or less is basically just Action Replay isn't it? Maybe somebody should just liscenes it, pattent it and then charge money for it and call it the new action replay. Cause nintendo didn't give shit about action replay at all....

:D Yeah seriously Nintendo! They have no idea do they, they'll never give up. And I'm suprised Action Replay hasn't thought of such a thing like this. XP

I still think nintendo should only really be worried about the stuff that actually DOES modify the wii. Like the stuff as in the DVDX player, and the mp3 player though the mp3 player is harmless the dvd player could be used to pirate cd's etc. CODES however, jeeze, I mean god, why make games if we can't cheat at em? XD

EDIT: James, that second point kinda contradicts itself don't it? Cause Action replay and code junkies have been doing codes and stuff that are similar to the Gecko OS. The only difference is that it's licenced, paid for/sold, and packaged in a neat plastic container that adds waste to the world lol

Action Replay is not licensed by Nintendo, and from this standpoint, is no more official than GeckoOS.  If you look on the Action Replay disc and/or Action Replay packaging for the GameCube, you will not find a "Nintendo Seal of Quality (http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/licensed.jsp)" on it.  I even believe that newer GameCube systems block older versions of the GameCube Action Replay from running on them, but I can't confirm that.  GameShark was also not licensed by Nintendo, and I remember that some of the newer N64 games didn't even work on the GameShark that I had, while others required a keycode.

Also, with the 3.3 System Menu (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_3.3), Nintendo already blocked the Datel Wii Freeloader (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Freeloader) from being used.  This was also not licensed by Nintendo.

Gamecube action reply disk still works on 4.3e which is great , i have tested it and i have a newer gamecube and all the action replay disks work on the newer version of gamecube.

Quote from: mrdefender on June 30, 2010, 04:47:05 AM
If nintendo lost the lawsuit to gamegenie, wouldn't that mean that they found the GameGenie to be legal?

Yeah, that's exactly what I said..

@zfan121 No, it doesn't. Nintendo can choose at it's own will what gets licensed and what doesn't.

Nintendo channel needs to have the 4.3 update in order to work.:-\  Anyone know how to fix this yet?

how's that and could i get a link to the vid please

Does anyone know if or when a new hackmii installer will be released.  I bought lego indiana jones so i can install the homebrew channel again

svpe said on #wiidev that they already have a new exploit that allows them to install stuff. I can't say if he was kidding at that moment or not. Well if it's true, i would say it will take at least another week until the new installer is released, this time TT wants to add more code to the installer that hides how their exploit works.

But you can get the HBC already, it's just not easy. At first you need to install a korean IOS(lowest possible version), then go Trucha Bug Restorer. And then install the IOS36 from 4.2.

im now on 4.3 nothing much new with it .. just no asking me to update with a few things :P
i went from 4.0 to 4.3 using the "Safe Updater" wiird and everything works. :) so im happy
but incase something down the road and i need to Downgrade i do have the 4.0 Nand Dump :P and also a 4.3 since i was messing with it using Sneek :)

Quote from: James0x57 on June 30, 2010, 02:15:17 AM
Nintendo hates us game hackers too.
They sued Game Geine (a cheat device like GameShark/ActionReplay/Codebreaker) in the early 90's and lost the lawsuit.
After Game Geine won they tried to play nice and get an official license from Nintendo but Nintendo denied it.
That point in out history is significant for 2 reasons; 1: it makes it pretty clear that all Game Hacking devices will be unlicensed (and thus need to run off exploits), and 2: it makes it legal for game hacking devices to exist and be used.

Forgive me if I'm mistaken (it's been quite a while since I read up on this), but while Nintendo sued Game Genie, I believe Sega was so impressed with the Game Genie for the Genesis/MegaDrive that they approached Galoob (the developers of Game Genie), offered them a license and devkit, and started encouraging the writers of official strategy guides for games to include Game Genie codes.  So while all Nintendo game hacking devices will be unlicensed, that was not the case for all console makers.  Too bad Sega left the hardware business, one of the reasons I liked them was their hacker-friendly policies.

Quote from: Sharkbyte on July 04, 2010, 04:04:18 PM
I think nintendo should say something like this on their update screen.
wii menu version 4.3 is now available for your wii console. select update at bottom of your screen.
The purpose of this update is made to delete your homebrew channel, custom channels, and screw up your Cios's and ios's. There are no new features because we can't think anything positive to add. Again, if you want "behind-the-scenes fixes, and your homebrew channel deleted, please select update at the bottom of the screen. Thank you for your cooperation, and we look forward to your Wii console back the way you had it when you bought it. Except this time no homebrew. HAHAHA!
Nintendo >:D

No more like this in the licence agreement.

"If you choose to accept then we are allowed to update the hardware of the wii to prevent HARMLESS soft mods and Homebrew from ruining our super cool games and making them lass fun.(yeah right XP) We can say you can't use nintendo channel or shop channel as well, but you don't need those do you? Also be aware that all future updates will ONLY be wasted attempts to stop homebrew from running on our precious precious Wii. Which you bought and now have license to do with however you please."

XD

Does anyone know how close we are to getting a new hackmii installer that is compatible with 4.3e.  I hope it will be compatible with Lego Indiana Jones again

Quote from: dcx2 on June 23, 2010, 03:41:02 AM
Such use may be illegal, voids any warranty, and is a breach of this agreement. Such use may also lead to injury to you or others or cause performance issues or damage to your Wii Console or the Wii Network Service.

Chapter III: Updates/Changes

      You understand that the Wii Console specifications and the Wii Network Service are constantly evolving and that we may update or change your Wii Console or the Wii Network Service in whole or in part, without notice to you. Such updates may be required for you to play new Wii games or continue to access the Wii Network Service. We may also upgrade, change, or terminate the Content or game software or may discontinue offering Products without notice to you.

Oh. Just because we have homebrew,there gonna give us a headache. Oh im so scared. NOT!

Quote from: Sharkbyte on July 04, 2010, 04:04:18 PM
I think nintendo should say something like this on their update screen.
wii menu version 4.3 is now available for your wii console. select update at bottom of your screen.
The purpose of this update is made to delete your homebrew channel, custom channels, and screw up your Cios's and ios's. There are no new features because we can't think anything positive to add. Again, if you want "behind-the-scenes fixes, and your homebrew channel deleted, please select update at the bottom of the screen. Thank you for your cooperation, and we look forward to your Wii console back the way you had it when you bought it. Except this time no homebrew. HAHAHA!
Nintendo >:D

LOL  :D :D :D :D  xD

(http://nintendobros.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/brewtous.png?w=375&h=275)

I remember I made this for the 4.2 Update. Still applies!

The button should say "I surrender" ;P

Quote from: dcx2 on June 27, 2010, 05:45:51 PM
Most people tend not to agree with that, considering that they paid money to buy hardware, and they ought to be able to do what they want as long as they aren't stealing games.

Well, that... and infringing on someone else's fun on Wifi via online codes like what happened on Mario Kart Wii...

My view on using codes online, is like how it works in Brawl... you desynch if you're not all using the same codes (of course unless you're using "okay" use online codes such as the music changer")... so basically, you have to "consent" to using codes that make matches "crazy fun"... like setting the damage ratio to 25.5 and having an "INSTANT Sudden Death Matches" of 40 stock or more and still actually finish each match in a decent amount of time...

lol, it's 1:20 AM, and I'm sleepy, so skimming through the thread wasn't really that effective...

So I'll just ask, how come Smash Stack doesn't work on other region Wii Consoles?

Well I Did update to 4.3 and lost homebrew but i managed to get it back by using a 4.3 fix. Do this
Link Removed - Contained Download Links to Nintendo IOS Files
at your own risk. And now i have homebrew on a 4.3 wii

As stated before, Indiana Pwns and Smash Stack still works... which is what you did.

Quote from: pichu04 on July 12, 2010, 02:46:41 AM
Well I Did update to 4.3 and lost homebrew but i managed to get it back by using a 4.3 fix. Do this
Link Removed - Contained Download Links to Nintendo IOS Files
at your own risk. And now i have homebrew on a 4.3 wii

The guide that you linked to contained Nintendo IOS files, so I had to remove it.  Anyway, the guide was basically stating that you could install Nintendo files, like the Korean IOS41, to do things like downgrade IOS15, and then patch IOS36.  This method could even be used to downgrade from 4.3, allowing you to install the Homebrew Channel again.  However, I would recommend just waiting for a new version of the HackMii Installer.  I'm also not too familiar with downgrading methods.

Actually I didn't downgrade anything i just installed the necessary ios files to get the hackmii installer 0.6 working again.

Are there any Wii games out now that contain this update on the disc? I have Pirates Plundarrr for the Wii, but I don't know if that game has the update on the disc.  Any info on this stuff would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

I could be completely wrong about both of these but I think:
1) No, there's not
and 2) The updates only come on Nintendo's games. (not 3rd party dev's)

Quote from: KingKRool2002 on July 16, 2010, 03:15:52 PM
Are there any Wii games out now that contain this update on the disc?

If you use Gecko OS to launch your games, then you will be safe.  Gecko OS will make sure you have any required IOS installed, without updating the System Menu.

They now have a Banner Bomb designed to hack the 4.3 menu!  Just saw it yesterday!   O0

Awsome where can i download it from and can you provide a link to it.

Quote from: dcx2 on July 16, 2010, 03:51:38 PM

Quote from: KingKRool2002 on July 16, 2010, 03:15:52 PM
Are there any Wii games out now that contain this update on the disc?

If you use Gecko OS to launch your games, then you will be safe.  Gecko OS will make sure you have any required IOS installed, without updating the System Menu.

Thanks for the info everyone.  I really appreciate it.  By Gecko OS, do you mean the one that is installed on an SD memory card or the USB one?  I only have the SD memory card version.

Thanks.

SD Card. Usually launched through Homebrew Channel. =)

Quote from: Warlock on July 17, 2010, 01:56:01 PM
They now have a Banner Bomb designed to hack the 4.3 menu!  Just saw it yesterday!   O0

Are you Sure? Was it European, Australian Or U.S.  ???

question
would I still be able to use the wad manager ???

Quote from: Mathew_Wi on July 22, 2010, 08:31:45 AM

Quote from: blazingflare on July 22, 2010, 06:53:27 AM
question
would I still be able to use the wad manager ???

WAD Import is much better. To answer your question, not unless you can restore the signing bug.

What's better in WAD Import? Anyways, both programs will work if you have some method to run them. The question blazingflare wants answered is: is it still possible to install "stuff". And only that depends on the signing bug/patched IOS.

PS: Trucha Bug Restorer doesn't really restore the trucha bug, the patched IOS36 completeley ignores signing.

The HackMii Installer v0.7 has been released.  This version is compatible with the 4.3 System Menu, and includes many changes.  You can read more about it by clicking on the link below...

http://www.hackmii.com/2010/07/hackmii-installer-v0-7/ (http://www.hackmii.com/2010/07/hackmii-installer-v0-7/)

Personally, I don't like the new look as much as the old look, but it is not unbearable.  In addition, I would prefer that it didn't require a BootMii as IOS install, but it can easily be removed after you are done.

There is also a version of the HackMii Installer that can be run from BootMii as boot2, assuming that you have it installed.  Running the HackMii Installer from BootMii as boot2 means that no IOS exploit is required.

^^^ Just installed it, I loved the new GUI. In need now of newer Icons for my apps to fit the new theme.  :D
   

I'm on vacation in Michigan and i heard about nintendo's update.

Now i can update my HBC after i get back ;D

NINTENDO CAN'T WIN >:D >:D >:D

So should i update to 4.3 and get homebrew back? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Quote from: Warlock on July 17, 2010, 01:56:01 PM
They now have a Banner Bomb designed to hack the 4.3 menu!  Just saw it yesterday!   O0

Can we have a link to it?

Quote from: msp26 on July 30, 2010, 11:35:56 AM
So should i update to 4.3 and get homebrew back? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I wouldn't update to 4.3.  As of right now, no games "require" 4.3, and it is possible to access the Shop Channel without updating to it, as well.  In addition, 4.3 provides no new features, and appears to only have been made to attempt to stop unauthorized code from running on the Wii.

Quote from: WiiRdgamer on July 30, 2010, 06:41:26 PM

Quote from: Warlock on July 17, 2010, 01:56:01 PM
They now have a Banner Bomb designed to hack the 4.3 menu!  Just saw it yesterday!   O0

Can we have a link to it?

As far as I know, there isn't a Bannerbomb for an unmodified 4.3 System Menu, nor is there likely to be one.  Maybe something like StartPatch can allow it, however?

So this means if you want to get homebrew on wii menu 4.3, you need to waist money on a game, because I heard you can still get homebrew on 4.3 using the indiana jones trick or something.

Yes, you might need to spend money on a game, if you don't already have it to begin with.  You could also rent it, or borrow it, if you know someone who owns it.

Also, just to clarify, the Smash Stack can also be used, although it only works on NTSC consoles.  Indiana Pwns works on NTSC and PAL consoles.

Korean and Japanese consoles that have been updated to 4.3 currently do not have an exploit to run code on them.

Can anyone try to look for problems with Gecko 1.9.3.1 on 4.3 :confused:

I noticed that there is a program called StartPatch that is up to v. 4.3.1.  If I use this program, will I be able to access the Wii Store (so I can download WiiWare games again)?  I have v. 4.2U for my Wii and I want to make sure that there is a program available that will enable me to access the Wii Store without having to upgrade to v. 4.3.xU before I play any newly released 1st party Wii games and before I connect to the Wii Store.  Any info on an easy-to-use program that will do this would be greatly appreciated.  BTW, I have a program similar to PriiLoader on my Wii, will that conflict with StartPatch?  Which exact options should I install from StartPatch?

Thanks.

You can probably use a homebrew application like the WiiSCU (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/WiiSCU) to update just the Shop Channel.  To access the Wii Shop Channel again, all that is needed is the newest version of the Shop Channel, along with the IOS that the new channel uses.

StartPatch (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/StartPatch) allows you to apply various hacks to your System Menu.  For example, it can remove the check that the System Menu has for the Twilight Hack, and allow the Twilight Hack to be used on the 4.3 System Menu.  Personally though, I'm not too familiar with Priiloader or StartPatch.  If possible, all that I would recommend is to install BootMii as boot2, and create/verify a NAND backup, before using a program like StartPatch.  If you can't install as boot2, then install as an IOS, create/verify a NAND backup, and save that along with the keys that BootMii will generate for you.

Quote from: 111 on July 31, 2010, 02:30:54 AM
You can probably use a homebrew application like the WiiSCU (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/WiiSCU) to update just the Shop Channel.  To access the Wii Shop Channel again, all that is needed is the newest version of the Shop Channel, along with the IOS that the new channel uses.

StartPatch (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/StartPatch) allows you to apply various hacks to your System Menu.  For example, it can remove the check that the System Menu has for the Twilight Hack, and allow the Twilight Hack to be used on the 4.3 System Menu.  Personally though, I'm not too familiar with Priiloader or StartPatch.  If possible, all that I would recommend is to install BootMii as boot2, and create/verify a NAND backup, before using a program like StartPatch.  If you can't install as boot2, then install as an IOS, create/verify a NAND backup, and save that along with the keys that BootMii will generate for you.

Okay, I think I'll use the WiiSCU app.  Thanks for the info.  Are there any special instructions for using this app.?  I didn't see any step-by-step instructions in the linked webpage.

Thanks.

UPDATE #1: Am I supposed to modify any of the IOS files?  IOS61 only has the option of -trucha, should I do that?  Also, what v. do I use for to update the Wii Shop Channel?  I tried v. 25, but I got an error message about the http request being denied.  How do I fix this problem?

Update #2: I checked the website and it says that v. 19 is the newest ver. of the Shop Channel.  When I try to update the channel, it keeps saying Bad Hash for Download #1 (of 18).  I tried doing it with IOS61 -trucha too, but I still got the same error message.  Why isn't it working?

Just throwing this out there.
I'm trying to back out of hacks, and can't see a need for them in the future. Will 4.3 do any actual damage (Brick/corrupt etc.)? I have HBC (Newest update) installed via Bootmii/Hackmii (I forget which is which), and honestly don't mind losing it.
Is 4.3 a valid way to remove the HBC and return to a hackless wii?

4.3 will not remove the latest HBC.  If you really want a hackless Wii, you'll need to use DOP-Mii to remove any IOS that's installed that shouldn't be.  It can also upgrade your boot2 to the latest version, wiping out BootMii/boot2.  Then run the Hackmii installer and uninstall HBC and the BootMii IOS.

111 will probably swing by soon with more details.

Quote from: KingKRool2002 on July 31, 2010, 04:39:08 AM

Quote from: 111 on July 31, 2010, 02:30:54 AM
You can probably use a homebrew application like the WiiSCU (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/WiiSCU) to update just the Shop Channel.  To access the Wii Shop Channel again, all that is needed is the newest version of the Shop Channel, along with the IOS that the new channel uses.

StartPatch (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/StartPatch) allows you to apply various hacks to your System Menu.  For example, it can remove the check that the System Menu has for the Twilight Hack, and allow the Twilight Hack to be used on the 4.3 System Menu.  Personally though, I'm not too familiar with Priiloader or StartPatch.  If possible, all that I would recommend is to install BootMii as boot2, and create/verify a NAND backup, before using a program like StartPatch.  If you can't install as boot2, then install as an IOS, create/verify a NAND backup, and save that along with the keys that BootMii will generate for you.

Okay, I think I'll use the WiiSCU app.  Thanks for the info.  Are there any special instructions for using this app.?  I didn't see any step-by-step instructions in the linked webpage.

Thanks.

UPDATE #1: Am I supposed to modify any of the IOS files?  IOS61 only has the option of -trucha, should I do that?  Also, what v. do I use for to update the Wii Shop Channel?  I tried v. 25, but I got an error message about the http request being denied.  How do I fix this problem?

Update #2: I checked the website and it says that v. 19 is the newest ver. of the Shop Channel.  When I try to update the channel, it keeps saying Bad Hash for Download #1 (of 18).  I tried doing it with IOS61 -trucha too, but I still got the same error message.  Why isn't it working?

When you say "-trucha," that means that it is trying to install without the trucha/signing bug, right?  If it's installing an unmodified IOS61 and Wii Shop Channel, then you shouldn't need any patched versions of IOS.

If WiiSCU doesn't work for you, maybe you can try something like Dop-SHOP (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Dop-SHOP) to download the updated version.

If you can't get any of those to work, then maybe try downloading the Shop Channel and IOS61 with the NUS Downloader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/NUS_Downloader), and install those two files with a WAD Manager.  This is what you would have to type in to download...

000000010000003D [v5661] - IOS61
0001000248414241 [v19] - Shop Channel

Quote from: Hexual on July 31, 2010, 09:05:17 PM
Just throwing this out there.
I'm trying to back out of hacks, and can't see a need for them in the future. Will 4.3 do any actual damage (Brick/corrupt etc.)? I have HBC (Newest update) installed via Bootmii/Hackmii (I forget which is which), and honestly don't mind losing it.
Is 4.3 a valid way to remove the HBC and return to a hackless wii?

The 4.3 System Menu shouldn't do any damage to your console, but there is always a slim chance of something happening when changes are made to a console.

As stated by dcx2, if your Homebrew Channel is updated to the latest version, then the 4.3 System Menu will not remove it.  If you load the newest version of the HackMii Installer, you should have an option to delete the Homebrew Channel from your system.  If you don't, then you can always remove it through the "Data Management" on your Wii console.  You can read more about that from the site below...

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/data.jsp#wiiDelete (http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/data.jsp#wiiDelete)

The newest version of the HackMii Installer requires that BootMii as an IOS be installed.  Therefore, you should remove the Homebrew Channel first, followed by BootMii as IOS.  Also, if you have BootMii as boot2, that would need to be uninstalled as well.

Alternatively, like dcx2 said, if you have an older version of boot2, updating to the latest version of boot2 should remove BootMii as well.

Quote from: dcx2 on July 31, 2010, 11:08:46 PM
4.3 will not remove the latest HBC.  If you really want a hackless Wii, you'll need to use DOP-Mii to remove any IOS that's installed that shouldn't be.  It can also upgrade your boot2 to the latest version, wiping out BootMii/boot2.  Then run the Hackmii installer and uninstall HBC and the BootMii IOS.

111 will probably swing by soon with more details.

So, if I have menu 4.2, run the new hack-mii installer on 4.2 and install the new homebrew channel, then upgrade to 4.3, I will still have the homebrew channel?

        -Just putting it out there, name changed from WiiRdgamer to FoohyGuy45

Yes, when you run Hackmii Installer 0.7, it will install HBC with a new Title ID.  It is then safe to upgrade to 4.3, because the new System Menu will not find the new HBC Title ID.

Though, I don't know why you would want to update to 4.3.  Between WiiSCU for the Shop Channel, and Gecko OS downloading/installing any new IOS needed to run games, upgrading gets you nothing but closed exploits.

now i accidently downloaded it cuz i didnt know about all this hacking stuff so now what should i do?

i have a problem my wii is updated 4.3 .. i tried to use (Indiana pwns EUR) but it got an error:

cleaning up environment... Eventhook release failed with code 0
ok.
SD card not found (-1056964604)
USBgecko not found
no code found to load, hanging.   ??? do any one know what to do.  :'(


PS: this isnt me. its my friend who was writing from my account becouse he dont have one :)

Quote from: Snoozeman on August 03, 2010, 01:18:13 PM
i have a problem my wii is updated 4.3 .. i tried to use (Indiana pwns EUR) but it got an error:

cleaning up environment... Eventhook release failed with code 0
ok.
SD card not found (-1056964604)
USBgecko not found
no code found to load, hanging.   ??? do any one know what to do.  :'(


PS: this isnt me. its my friend who was writing from my account becouse he dont have one :)

Looks like its telling you the problem more than likely a incompatible sd card, or incorrect folder structure.

Quote from: thomas83lin on August 03, 2010, 01:32:27 PM

Quote from: Snoozeman on August 03, 2010, 01:18:13 PM
i have a problem my wii is updated 4.3 .. i tried to use (Indiana pwns EUR) but it got an error:

cleaning up environment... Eventhook release failed with code 0
ok.
SD card not found (-1056964604)
USBgecko not found
no code found to load, hanging.   ??? do any one know what to do.  :'(


PS: this isnt me. its my friend who was writing from my account becouse he dont have one :)

Looks like its telling you the problem more than likely a incompatible sd card, or incorrect folder structure.

ok. i will show my SD folder files look lik this

_____________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________lXl_
COPYING file

folder = private\wii\rlie, rlij, or rlip... all folders has a .bin file i think it´s okay  ???

README file

yea that looks ok private on root.  Have you tried a different sd card, make sure your not using a sdhc card.

edit:
And put your Wii executable on the root of the sd card.

Quote from: thomas83lin on August 03, 2010, 02:41:04 PM
yea that looks ok private on root.  Have you tried a different sd card, make sure your not using a sdhc card.

edit:
And put your Wii executable on the root of the sd card.

what is the different for a sdhc ?

Quote from: Snoozeman on August 03, 2010, 03:20:00 PM

Quote from: thomas83lin on August 03, 2010, 02:41:04 PM
yea that looks ok private on root.  Have you tried a different sd card, make sure your not using a sdhc card.

edit:
And put your Wii executable on the root of the sd card.

what is the different for a sdhc ?

Its just a High-Capacity card. Indiana Pwn is just not compat with a sdhc card, it should say on the card if its a sdhc or not. 

maybe this will help
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Indiana_Pwns

Quote from: thomas83lin on August 03, 2010, 07:38:46 PM

Quote from: Snoozeman on August 03, 2010, 03:20:00 PM

Quote from: thomas83lin on August 03, 2010, 02:41:04 PM
yea that looks ok private on root.  Have you tried a different sd card, make sure your not using a sdhc card.

edit:
And put your Wii executable on the root of the sd card.

what is the different for a sdhc ?

Its just a High-Capacity card. Indiana Pwn is just not compat with a sdhc card, it should say on the card if its a sdhc or not.  

maybe this will help
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Indiana_Pwns

same error code  :confused: i will make a account name = lol_ypop_boy    berceuse i using my friends.

same error code? what all have you tried? different sd cards? did you follow the guide i linked to. If so than i'm not sure what your problem is.

Quote from: thomas83lin on August 04, 2010, 02:37:11 AM
same error code? what all have you tried? different sd cards? did you follow the guide i linked to. If so than i'm not sure what your problem is.

o.m.fu :-X.g. It works!!!!!!! :D ;D ;D if you wonder why  ::):

i found a old SD card with 32 mb. and not SDHC. it must be les then 2gb. if you have this error* try to get the SD card


*error:

cleaning up environment... Eventhook release failed with code 0
ok.
SD card not found (-1056964604)
USBgecko not found
no code found to load, hanging.
_____________________________________________________
Try to get the SD card   
_____________________________________________________

thanks for help every one! im so happy now ;D
see you all agen if I have any problems... hi... ;)
_____________________________________________________

THE END of the error code... :D

Glad you got it :D I figured it was the sd card

Quote from: thomas83lin on August 04, 2010, 11:01:53 PM
Glad you got it :D I figured it was the sd card

now i got an other problem :(
how can I install DVDX for my wii 4.3 system :confus

same dvdx error in the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gjb9LRjfW0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gjb9LRjfW0)

yes I know he running 3.4 and not 4.3 but i still same error* help! ???

error*code:

Installing dvd stub with normal IOS(61)
loading dvd stub
fixing up tmd signature...
installing dvd stub ticket...

Error -2011 installing dvd stub ticket
Error -2011 installing stub

back
exit

Quote from: Lol_ypop_boy on August 05, 2010, 07:38:15 AM

Quote from: thomas83lin on August 04, 2010, 11:01:53 PM
Glad you got it :D I figured it was the sd card

now i got an other problem :(
how can I install DVDX for my wii 4.3 system :confused:

If the Wii is black or you bought it on christmas '09 or later, then DVDX won't do anything for you. Since DVDX was removed from the latest hackmii installer, you need the version from before. And that only works with IOS from system menu up to 4.2. So you would need to downgrade one IOS to a 4.2 version.

Quote from: WiiPower on August 05, 2010, 09:21:26 AM

Quote from: Lol_ypop_boy on August 05, 2010, 07:38:15 AM

Quote from: thomas83lin on August 04, 2010, 11:01:53 PM
Glad you got it :D I figured it was the sd card

now i got an other problem :(
how can I install DVDX for my wii 4.3 system :confused:

If the Wii is black or you bought it on christmas '09 or later, then DVDX won't do anything for you. Since DVDX was removed from the latest hackmii installer, you need the version from before. And that only works with IOS from system menu up to 4.2. So you would need to downgrade one IOS to a 4.2 version.

my wii is white and will my wii maybe crash if i downgrade  IOS to a 4.2 version :confused:

I'm pretty sure that you cant install DVDX on 4.3, since it "died a horrible death"

Quote from: goemon_guy on August 05, 2010, 02:41:34 PM
I'm pretty sure that you cant install DVDX on 4.3, since it "died a horrible death"

W.T.F* :-X !  can I do to get

• dvdx or something like it
  
• a cios 222/249 installer

• and usbloaderGX
  on my fu* :-X ing wii system 4.3!  :mad: :confused: :'(
  
  ps. how do i add a .gif or imange file on this Forum?
  

???[/list]

Quote from: Lol_ypop_boy on August 05, 2010, 04:28:50 PM

Quote from: goemon_guy on August 05, 2010, 02:41:34 PM
I'm pretty sure that you cant install DVDX on 4.3, since it "died a horrible death"

W.T.F* :-X !  can I do to get

• dvdx or something like it
  
• a cios 222/249 installer

• and usbloaderGX
  on my fu* :-X ing wii system 4.3!  :mad: :confused: :'(
  
  ps. how do i add a .gif or imange file on this Forum?
  

???[/list]

No need for the language but the color of the Wii doesn't matter.  It could be black or white and not be able to play backups at all (except through USB loading but you can't do GC games through it as of yet unless you have WODE or a hard mod done to your console).  They can still be hacked through the use of either Stack Smash or Indiana PWNS!  Google them for 4.3 systems!

Hey, i updated my wii before looking into it because i wanted to get something off the wii shop channel. i was able to get the HBC back on with the Smash Stack hack, but i want to use cheats on wiiware games. is there a way i can on 4.3?

Quote from: MasterWilshire on August 08, 2010, 03:57:41 PM
Hey, i updated my wii before looking into it because i wanted to get something off the wii shop channel. i was able to get the HBC back on with the Smash Stack hack, but i want to use cheats on wiiware games. is there a way i can on 4.3?

Yes.  You will have to download IOS41 with the NUS Downloader, use IOS41 with DOP-Mii or Trucha Bug Restorer, and then go through the process to patch IOS36.  The information on this thread might help you...

http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,6575.0.html (http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,6575.0.html)

I updated the Wii Shop Channel via NUS Downloader like it was mentioned in an answer to one of my previous questions and the Shop Channel loads without asking for an update.  Do I need to install anything else so that future Wii games that have the 4.3 System Menu requirement will think that my Wii has it (even though it doesn't)?  (BTW, with the NUS Downloader, I installed the 2 .wad files for the Shop Channel.)  Also, is there a way to see if I still have Priiloader (or a similar thing) on my softmodded Wii?  I installed so much stuff trying to get Gecko OS codes to work with WiiWare games, that I do not know if one of them might've uninstalled Priiloader.  I know that I can still copy non-copyable saves to and from my Wii (I can do this both with and without my SD memory card inserted into the Wii (aka both with and without BootMii at start-up).  Does this mean that I still have Priiloader installed on my Wii?  Any info on this stuff would be greatly appreciated.  I really appreciate all the help I've gotten from everyone so far.

Thanks.  :smileyface:

Quote from: KingKRool2002 on August 09, 2010, 04:08:02 AM
I updated the Wii Shop Channel via NUS Downloader like it was mentioned in an answer to one of my previous questions and the Shop Channel loads without asking for an update.  Do I need to install anything else so that future Wii games that have the 4.3 System Menu requirement will think that my Wii has it (even though it doesn't)?  (BTW, with the NUS Downloader, I installed the 2 .wad files for the Shop Channel.)  Also, is there a way to see if I still have Priiloader (or a similar thing) on my softmodded Wii?  I installed so much stuff trying to get Gecko OS codes to work with WiiWare games, that I do not know if one of them might've uninstalled Priiloader.  I know that I can still copy non-copyable saves to and from my Wii (I can do this both with and without my SD memory card inserted into the Wii (aka both with and without BootMii at start-up).  Does this mean that I still have Priiloader installed on my Wii?  Any info on this stuff would be greatly appreciated.  I really appreciate all the help I've gotten from everyone so far.

Thanks.  :smileyface:

To stop potential games with the 4.3 System Menu from asking for an update, the only thing that I can really think of is to block the updates with Priiloader.

If you can copy non-copy saves on your Wii console when you start it up, then I'm assuming that you still have Priiloader installed, since that cannot normally be done.  From what I understand, if you hold in "Reset" while powering the Wii on, the Priiloader menu should come up.

A new version of the HackMii Installer (http://www.bootmii.org/download/) has been released.  The main update with this version is that the Homebrew Channel (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Channel) has had USB improvements on all IOS versions, and now has USB 2.0 support if you have IOS58 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58) installed.  IOS58 is used by the Wii game Your Shape (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/kWaDeezcH80LHKNQW5AcuaOxTTipXuNJ).  Use the IOS58 Installer (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58_Installer) to download IOS58 to your console.  In addition, I'm guessing that NUS Downloader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/NUS_Downloader) will also work, although you will need another program (like a WAD Manager) to install it to your Wii console.  You can read more about this from the following link...

http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/ (http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/)

Quote from: 111 on August 14, 2010, 08:07:52 PM
A new version of the HackMii Installer (http://www.bootmii.org/download/) has been released.  The main update with this version is that the Homebrew Channel (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Channel) has had USB improvements on all IOS versions, and now has USB 2.0 support if you have IOS58 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58) installed.  IOS58 is used by the Wii game Your Shape (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/kWaDeezcH80LHKNQW5AcuaOxTTipXuNJ).  Use the IOS58 Installer (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58_Installer) to download IOS58 to your console.  In addition, I'm guessing that NUS Downloader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/NUS_Downloader) will also work, although you will need another program (like a WAD Manager) to install it to your Wii console.  You can read more about this from the following link...

http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/ (http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/)

how do i install my 222 ios to the usbloaderGX :-\

Quote from: 111 on August 14, 2010, 08:07:52 PM
A new version of the HackMii Installer (http://www.bootmii.org/download/) has been released.  The main update with this version is that the Homebrew Channel (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Channel) has had USB improvements on all IOS versions, and now has USB 2.0 support if you have IOS58 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58) installed.  IOS58 is used by the Wii game Your Shape (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/kWaDeezcH80LHKNQW5AcuaOxTTipXuNJ).  Use the IOS58 Installer (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58_Installer) to download IOS58 to your console.  In addition, I'm guessing that NUS Downloader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/NUS_Downloader) will also work, although you will need another program (like a WAD Manager) to install it to your Wii console.  You can read more about this from the following link...

http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/ (http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/)

You can also get IOS58 by updating to System menu 4.3   :cool:

Quote from: skyground95 on August 22, 2010, 03:38:11 PM

Quote from: 111 on August 14, 2010, 08:07:52 PM
A new version of the HackMii Installer (http://www.bootmii.org/download/) has been released.  The main update with this version is that the Homebrew Channel (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Channel) has had USB improvements on all IOS versions, and now has USB 2.0 support if you have IOS58 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58) installed.  IOS58 is used by the Wii game Your Shape (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/kWaDeezcH80LHKNQW5AcuaOxTTipXuNJ).  Use the IOS58 Installer (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58_Installer) to download IOS58 to your console.  In addition, I'm guessing that NUS Downloader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/NUS_Downloader) will also work, although you will need another program (like a WAD Manager) to install it to your Wii console.  You can read more about this from the following link...

http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/ (http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/)

You can also get IOS58 by updating to System menu 4.3   :cool:

where can I get wadmanager for my 4.3 system?
And how do i install a kind of usbloader on it?
:-\
ps. how do i add .gif image in this forum?    ???

If you are looking to install IOS58 on 4.3, you could probably download it with NUS Downloader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/NUS_Downloader) (pack it into a WAD file), and then use WadImport (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/WadImport) to install it.

I don't know anything about the USB loaders, and I'm pretty sure that discussion of such things are against the forum rules, anyway.

Quote from: 111 on August 14, 2010, 08:07:52 PM
A new version of the HackMii Installer (http://www.bootmii.org/download/) has been released.  The main update with this version is that the Homebrew Channel (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Channel) has had USB improvements on all IOS versions, and now has USB 2.0 support if you have IOS58 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58) installed.  IOS58 is used by the Wii game Your Shape (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/kWaDeezcH80LHKNQW5AcuaOxTTipXuNJ).  Use the IOS58 Installer (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58_Installer) to download IOS58 to your console.  In addition, I'm guessing that NUS Downloader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/NUS_Downloader) will also work, although you will need another program (like a WAD Manager) to install it to your Wii console.  You can read more about this from the following link...

http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/ (http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/)

If I download IOS58, will it get rid of the Homebrew Channel (like updating to 4.3U)?  Does it matter where I download IOS58 from?

Quote from: KingKRool2002 on August 26, 2010, 07:07:36 PM

Quote from: 111 on August 14, 2010, 08:07:52 PM
A new version of the HackMii Installer (http://www.bootmii.org/download/) has been released.  The main update with this version is that the Homebrew Channel (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Channel) has had USB improvements on all IOS versions, and now has USB 2.0 support if you have IOS58 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58) installed.  IOS58 is used by the Wii game Your Shape (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/kWaDeezcH80LHKNQW5AcuaOxTTipXuNJ).  Use the IOS58 Installer (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58_Installer) to download IOS58 to your console.  In addition, I'm guessing that NUS Downloader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/NUS_Downloader) will also work, although you will need another program (like a WAD Manager) to install it to your Wii console.  You can read more about this from the following link...

http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/ (http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/)

If I download IOS58, will it get rid of the Homebrew Channel (like updating to 4.3U)?  Does it matter where I download IOS58 from?

it will not if you updated your homebrew Channel to the latest version.

Quote from: KingKRool2002 on August 26, 2010, 07:07:36 PM

Quote from: 111 on August 14, 2010, 08:07:52 PM
A new version of the HackMii Installer (http://www.bootmii.org/download/) has been released.  The main update with this version is that the Homebrew Channel (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Channel) has had USB improvements on all IOS versions, and now has USB 2.0 support if you have IOS58 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58) installed.  IOS58 is used by the Wii game Your Shape (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/kWaDeezcH80LHKNQW5AcuaOxTTipXuNJ).  Use the IOS58 Installer (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58_Installer) to download IOS58 to your console.  In addition, I'm guessing that NUS Downloader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/NUS_Downloader) will also work, although you will need another program (like a WAD Manager) to install it to your Wii console.  You can read more about this from the following link...

http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/ (http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/)

If I download IOS58, will it get rid of the Homebrew Channel (like updating to 4.3U)?  Does it matter where I download IOS58 from?

No, IOS58 alone would not delete the Homebrew Channel.  Only System Menu 4.3 deletes the Homebrew Channel (IOS58 and System Menu 4.3 are separate files).

I downloaded IOS58 with the IOS58 installer, and it seemed to install fine, although I have not tested a USB drive on the Homebrew Channel yet.  If your Wii is not connected to the internet, then you can download IOS58 v6175 with the NUS Downloader (pack it into a WAD file), and you should be able to install it to your console with wadImport (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/WadImport).

EDIT:  Only the latest version of the HackMii Installer supports USB 2.0 with IOS58.  You should probably install IOS58 before installing the latest version of the Homebrew Channel.  Otherwise, the Homebrew Channel will select a different IOS version to use.

Quote from: 111 on August 26, 2010, 08:51:18 PM

Quote from: KingKRool2002 on August 26, 2010, 07:07:36 PM

Quote from: 111 on August 14, 2010, 08:07:52 PM
A new version of the HackMii Installer (http://www.bootmii.org/download/) has been released.  The main update with this version is that the Homebrew Channel (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Channel) has had USB improvements on all IOS versions, and now has USB 2.0 support if you have IOS58 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58) installed.  IOS58 is used by the Wii game Your Shape (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/kWaDeezcH80LHKNQW5AcuaOxTTipXuNJ).  Use the IOS58 Installer (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS58_Installer) to download IOS58 to your console.  In addition, I'm guessing that NUS Downloader (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/NUS_Downloader) will also work, although you will need another program (like a WAD Manager) to install it to your Wii console.  You can read more about this from the following link...

http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/ (http://www.hackmii.com/2010/08/the-usb2-release/)

If I download IOS58, will it get rid of the Homebrew Channel (like updating to 4.3U)?  Does it matter where I download IOS58 from?

No, IOS58 alone would not delete the Homebrew Channel.  Only System Menu 4.3 deletes the Homebrew Channel (IOS58 and System Menu 4.3 are separate files).

I downloaded IOS58 with the IOS58 installer, and it seemed to install fine, although I have not tested a USB drive on the Homebrew Channel yet.  If your Wii is not connected to the internet, then you can download IOS58 v6175 with the NUS Downloader (pack it into a WAD file), and you should be able to install it to your console with wadImport (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/WadImport).

EDIT:  Only the latest version of the HackMii Installer supports USB 2.0 with IOS58.  You should probably install IOS58 before installing the latest version of the Homebrew Channel.  Otherwise, the Homebrew Channel will select a different IOS version to use.

Okay, I am still a little bit confused on this stuff.  How do I get my Wii to think that it has 4.3U (even though it doesn't), so that it won't try and update when I try using future 1st party Wii games?  I basically want to be able to play future Wii games without needing to install 4.3U.

Thanks.

To do that, you may want to look into Priiloader (http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Preloader/Priiloader) or StartPatch (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/StartPatch).  I've personally never used either program, so I can't offer help with them.  However, they can do what you want.  I usually just run newer games through Gecko/GeckoOS to bypass the whole update, and only install the IOS that the game needs.

Quote from: 111 on August 29, 2010, 06:16:10 PM
To do that, you may want to look into Priiloader (http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Preloader/Priiloader) or StartPatch (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/StartPatch).  I've personally never used either program, so I can't offer help with them.  However, they can do what you want.  I usually just run newer games through Gecko/GeckoOS to bypass the whole update, and only install the IOS that the game needs.

So as long as I always load Wii games via Gecko 1.9.3.1 (either with or without codes), the game won't try and update the Wii to 4.3U?  That's great news!  Thanks.

No, it won't update to 4.3 or higher.  It will only install the IOS that is needed.  For example, I am on 3.0U, and can run Super Mario Galaxy 2 just fine.  The Super Mario Galaxy 2 disc includes IOS56v5405.  However, I've found that it works just fine with IOS56v4890.

GeckoOS 1.07b can run some games without installing any IOS at all.  For example, Mario Kart Wii and Super Smash Brothers Brawl each use IOS36.  I have never had IOS36 on my console, but with GeckoOS 1.07b, I can run both of those games just fine.  I've found that gives an Error 002 on newer games (such as Super Mario Galaxy 2), however.

With this method, however, you can't run newer Wii games through the Disc Channel, unless you use the Rebooter to block the disc updates.

Quote from: 111 on August 29, 2010, 09:37:06 PM
No, it won't update to 4.3 or higher.  It will only install the IOS that is needed.  For example, I am on 3.0U, and can run Super Mario Galaxy 2 just fine.  The Super Mario Galaxy 2 disc includes IOS56v5405.  However, I've found that it works just fine with IOS56v4890.

GeckoOS 1.07b can run some games without installing any IOS at all.  For example, Mario Kart Wii and Super Smash Brothers Brawl each use IOS36.  I have never had IOS36 on my console, but with GeckoOS 1.07b, I can run both of those games just fine.  I've found that gives an Error 002 on newer games (such as Super Mario Galaxy 2), however.

With this method, however, you can't run newer Wii games through the Disc Channel, unless you use the Rebooter to block the disc updates.

Awesome!  Thanks for the info.  I'll load games via Gecko from now on.

Thanks.

Okay - I rented Metroid: Other M yesterday to give it a whirl; loaded it through Gecko OS to avoid the system update. I headed out a couple of hours ago to do some errands and my brother asked if he could play it. I assumed he meant on -his- Wii downstairs, so I said "Yes". I come back home to find him playing it on my console - and he loaded it through the disc channel and updated me to 4.3. Fortunately I had updated my Homebrew Channel and still have my apps, but I've lost the ability to launch WiiWare/Virtual Console channels through Gecko OS and the "Launch Rebooter" option is gone; all I have is "Launch Game", "Config Options", "About" and "Exit" on the Gecko screen. Is there -any-thing I can do to get my WW/VC cheats back?

Kamen - I just helped one of the forum members restore channel cheats to their 4.3

The short version:

• Make sure your Wii is connected to wifi
• Download and run DOP Mii v13
• Select "Install IOS36 (v3351) w/FakeSign"
• It should hold your hand and install IOS41 v3348
• then it will downgrade IOS15 to v257
• then it will ask you what you want to patch in IOS36.  You MUST select Identify, as that is what Gecko OS uses to re-load channels with access to savegames, etc
• I'm not sure what the NAND permission patch is good for...maybe reading save games that can't be copied?  You don't need it, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't hurt
• then it will upgrade IOS15 back to v1031

I tried this and got ">> ERROR! No Usable IOSes found to downgrade IOS15."

Did you use Dop Mii v13?  ....or do you happen to have a Korean Wii? 

I had v12 and upgraded to v13 before trying this; and no - I have a US Wii.

v13 should automatically install IOS41 so that it can downgrade IOS15.

It tried to but said my IOS41 wasn't usable.

If you've got a USA Wii, you don't have IOS41.  It's a Korean IOS.  This process worked for another guy over here.  You can try to follow this thread starting here.  http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,6703.msg57583.html#msg57583

Since I don't have 4.3 I can't really help you much more.

Maybe I'm overlooking/misreading things, but none of that seems to apply to me. He wasn't getting the same errors I was at all. In retracing my steps I noticed that at the top of my DOP-Mii menu is says "v12.1" despite the fact that I installed v13 straight from Arikado's Google Code page. Could this be causing the issue or am I overthinking things?

The same things apply to you because you both have 4.3 and you both have an unpatched IOS36.

You must use v13.  I doubt 12.1 does IOS41 correctly.

If you didn't remove the old version, it's possible that you have both, and you're choosing the first one instead of the second.

I did remove the first one; completely deleted it from the SD card before installing the file I got here: http://code.google.com/p/dop-mii/downloads/detail?name=DOP-Mii%20v13.zip&can=2&q=

I am led to believe that this comes from the creator Arikado himself; I hope I am not in error.

Wiibrew says the shop channel was updated. I'm hearing that the Korean IOSes were added for all regions.
Would this pose a problem?

nintendo just won't give up :|
now they updated the wii menu 4.3 for no obvious reason  >:(

Is that what it is? I kind of added and patched a few IOS files recently. (http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,6703.0.html) I'd like to update but will it interfere with the Wii's functions in any negative way? (besides the possibility of removing the Homebrew Channel)

I'm sure a new WiiSCU will pop up soon if you want to use the shop channel.

as of September 7th, the system menu has had another update.
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/systemMenuFeatures.jsp

Nintendo doesn't list it, but it's still 4.3, kinda like 3.2v2 if you remember way back when.

From NUS:
[spoiler]

Starting Wii System Update...
- Sending SOAP Request to NUS...
- Region: USA
- Recieved Update Info!
- Title information:
- 0000000100000001 [v4] [Boot2]
- 0000000100000002 [v513] [System Menu]
- 0000000100000004 [v65280] [IOS4]
- 0000000100000009 [v1034] [IOS9]
- 000000010000000A [v768] [IOS10]
- 000000010000000B [v256] [IOS11]
- 000000010000000C [v526] [IOS12]
- 000000010000000D [v1032] [IOS13]
- 000000010000000E [v1032] [IOS14]
- 000000010000000F [v1032] [IOS15]
- 0000000100000010 [v512] [IOS16]
- 0000000100000011 [v1032] [IOS17]
- 0000000100000014 [v256] [IOS20]
- 0000000100000015 [v1039] [IOS21]
- 0000000100000016 [v1294] [IOS22]
- 000000010000001C [v1807] [IOS28]
- 000000010000001E [v2816] [IOS30]
- 000000010000001F [v3608] [IOS31]
- 0000000100000021 [v3608] [IOS33]
- 0000000100000022 [v3608] [IOS34]
- 0000000100000023 [v3608] [IOS35]
- 0000000100000024 [v3608] [IOS36]
- 0000000100000025 [v5663] [IOS37]
- 0000000100000026 [v4124] [IOS38]
- 0000000100000028 [v3072] [IOS40]
- 0000000100000029 [v3607] [IOS41]
- 000000010000002B [v3607] [IOS43]
- 000000010000002D [v3607] [IOS45]
- 000000010000002E [v3607] [IOS46]
- 0000000100000030 [v4124] [IOS48]
- 0000000100000032 [v5120] [IOS50]
- 0000000100000033 [v4864] [IOS51]
- 0000000100000034 [v5888] [IOS52]
- 0000000100000035 [v5663] [IOS53]
- 0000000100000037 [v5663] [IOS55]
- 0000000100000038 [v5662] [IOS56]
- 0000000100000039 [v5919] [IOS57]
- 000000010000003A [v6176] [IOS58]
- 000000010000003C [v6400] [IOS60]
- 000000010000003D [v5662] [IOS61]
- 0000000100000046 [v6912] [IOS70]
- 0000000100000050 [v6944] [IOS80]
- 00000001000000DE [v65280] [IOS222]
- 00000001000000DF [v65280] [IOS223]
- 00000001000000F9 [v65280] [IOS249]
- 00000001000000FA [v65280] [IOS250]
- 00000001000000FE [v65280] [IOS254]
- 0000000100000100 [v6] [BC]
- 0000000100000101 [v10] [MIOS]
- 0001000248414141 [v2] [Photo Channel]
- 0001000248414241 [v20] [Shopping Channel]
- 0001000248414341 [v6] [Mii Channel]
- 0001000248414645 [v7] [Weather Channel]
- 0001000248414745 [v7] [News Channel]
- 0001000248415941 [v3] [Photo Channel 1.1]
- 0001000848414B45 [v3] [EULA]
- 0001000848414C45 [v2] [Region Select]
- Outputting results to NUS script...
- Script written!
- Run this script if you feel like downloading the update!
[/spoiler]

Lots of unnecessary updates as of late. I dont think this fixes any of the exploits they left out so it has to be an improvement somehow... right?

The update adds IOS41 to non Korean Wiis - so it is a fix at least against TBR. Whether it fixes the Homebrew channel installer.. possibly but I dunno!

Quote from: Link on September 09, 2010, 04:43:38 AM
The update adds IOS41 to non Korean Wiis - so it is a fix at least against TBR. Whether it fixes the Homebrew channel installer.. possibly but I dunno!

No it doesn't. And since it doesn't update the system menu, i'm sure all the current savegame exploits aren't fixed either.

You know that there are 2 alternatives to TBR that will always work if you can install HBC and BootMii IOS?

Yes, I do know... so as I guessed.. a typical Nintendo fix for nothing again ^^

I guessed, it might fix the Homebrew channel installer as it updated IOS files and even in current versions the HBC installer kinda relies on IOS exploits (and admittedly I didn't read too far on it, simply because I literally did not care too much - my Wii is still on 4.1 with update blockers enabled)...

For savegame exploits.. I cannot imagine how they fix them without updating the System menu so well.. let's just assume they work.

^ the day nintendo made 4.3 they were my enemy, witch as long as they don't secretly update my wii for me >:( then i'll keep 4.2U and just update the shop, speaking of witch is the shop v20 now? or like 4.3 is it just basicly v19 V2?

@ link: how do you install update blockers?

Um...guys? My question hasn't been answered. I patched a few IOS files recently. Will updating brick my Wii at this point?

You shouldn't have any fear of bricking by an update.  The worst an update will do is get rid of HBC.  Chances are this update is going to fix the patches you made to IOS36.  DOP Mii can be used to update the Shop Channel to v20 if you want...note that the new Shop Channel may require the latest IOS56.

I'm sure more details will come out in the next few days.

Quote from: zfan121 on June 23, 2010, 04:22:09 AM

QuoteSuch updates may be required for you to play new Wii games or continue to access the Wii Network Service. We may also upgrade, change, or terminate the Content or game software or may discontinue offering Products without notice to you.

Lol at Nintendo xD they screw themselves here. lemme go over how that is true that they just want to do that.
1: Oh look the wii now has a clock on the main menu! HOW BADASS IS THAT?!!!(Also the homebrew stuff gets whipped out)
2: Oh look wii speak and internet update along with a useless channel(nintendo channel) to spam us with game advertisements.(homebrew tackle again)
3: AWESOME you (tried to) stopped hackers and added a useless little Icon that takes you straight to the SD management screen. *claps in surprise*
4: Dude....where's the update....oh look the system menu says 4.2U now instead of 4.2E wooooooowwwww

reading that just makes me laugh apple does things quite the same except they do not release so many worthless updates.I know this is slightly unrelated.

The only reason I want to update my 3.2u to at least 4.0 is for the sd menu!
I need more blocks for my channels.
So I hope someone can make it possible to make a sd menu wad
or app for Homebrew or something.

I went to use the Shop Channel today to buy the first episode of Sonic the Hedgehog 4 but I got a message saying I need to get an update to access it. So I did a bit of research and found out I need DOP Mii to update the shop channel. I got the app and it tells me I had v19 of the channel, so I update it and now I get a blue screen with "ERROR #002" on it. I go back to the program and it says I now have v20 of the channel. What do I do to fix this?

EDIT: Nevermind, I figured it out.

Is there another way to use the shopping Channel without destroying the Homebrew Channel?

BTW, I've searched online, but I can only find Topics made in 2009 about updating the Wii.

I followed this guide to get the shop channel updated:

http://gwht.wikidot.com/wii-shop

Quote from: Sharkbyte on October 11, 2010, 03:51:07 PM

Quote from: vanish on October 11, 2010, 12:19:07 AM
The only reason I want to update my 3.2u to at least 4.0 is for the sd menu!
I need more blocks for my channels.
So I hope someone can make it possible to make a sd menu wad
or app for Homebrew or something.

I wouldn't update through nintendo. Ever. It will take you straight to 4.3V2. However, I was also wondering if it is possible to update to 4.0/4.1 from a 3.2U using various apps such as NUS downloader and wads, etc. I have never used this method, so I don't know. 111, do you know how/if this is possible? And @vanish once/if you update, never, ever downgrade.

DOP-Mii (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/DOP-Mii:_WiiBrew_Edition) can allow you to update or downgrade the System Menu.  I'm not sure exactly what it updates, though.  If you want to update to System Menu 4.0, then I would just use that program.  For System Menu 4.1, you can do the same thing, or use a game like New Super Mario Brothers Wii to update to it.

Technically, yes, you can update the System Menu by using a program like wadImport (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/WadImport), but I would not recommend this method.  You would need the following files...

IOS60 v6174 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS60)
System Menu 4.0 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.0) OR System Menu 4.1 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.1)

Keep several things in mind, however...

1.  If you do this, you MUST install IOS60 v6174 first.  If you install the System Menu first, YOU WILL BRICK!  Also, remember that we are talking about System Menu 4.0 and 4.1 here.

2.  Make absolutely sure that you have IOS60v6174, and NOT IOS60v6400.  IOS60v6400 is a stub IOS, which means that it is basically a placeholder on the Wii, and does not do anything.  If you install IOS60v6400 and then System Menu 4.0/4.1, YOU WILL BRICK!

3.  Make sure that you have the correct region System Menu.

4.  I am not sure how this will affect Preloader/Priiloader.

Also, remember that IOS60v6174 is used by System Menu 4.0 and 4.1.  System Menu 4.2 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.2) uses IOS70v6687 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS70), and System Menu 4.3 (version one and version two) (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.3) uses IOS80v6943 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS80).  Again, watch out for stub IOSes, and ALWAYS INSTALL THE IOS FIRST!  Use the following page for information on System Menu version, and what IOS they use...

http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu)

Again, I would not recommend the wadImport method.  However, if you decide to try it, I would recommend using BootMii to make a NAND backup, and install it as boot2 if you can.  This way, if something goes wrong, you can restore to where you were before.  See the "BootMii" section of this guide for information on how to do that...

http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,6843.0.html (http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,6843.0.html)

Also, remember that an official update to System Menu 4.2 will give you boot2v4, which will remove BootMii.  Boot2v4 may also prevent you from using a NAND backup to go back to 3.2U.  If you are on Boot2v3 or lower, I would recommend staying there if possible.

theres been a recent new update occuring in september, ive gone to my wii scu and installed the latest shop channel i could, at this moment v20, but now the shop channel gives me an error 2 telling me to remove the game disc, something that has nothing to do with the shop channel.

Quote from: Crystal Jinjo on October 13, 2010, 09:37:37 AM
theres been a recent new update occuring in september, ive gone to my wii scu and installed the latest shop channel i could, at this moment v20, but now the shop channel gives me an error 2 telling me to remove the game disc, something that has nothing to do with the shop channel.

you need to update ios56 too for the shop channel to work ;)

wii scu doesnt have 56 listed =(

use dopmii

where can i download, i downloaded at the homebrew wiki but the win rar file is corrupted

Quote from: Crystal Jinjo on October 13, 2010, 10:22:45 PM
where can i download, i downloaded at the homebrew wiki but the win rar file is corrupted

That happens with WinRAR downloads sometimes, try to download it again  ;)

nope still getting sytax errors when extracting, someone please provide a better link.

ok i eventually got dop mii downloaded but it wont install IOS 56 it says "choose an IOS that accepts fake Signing" please help, this is annoying me

Downgrading is deprecated and unnecessary!  Use the Simple IOS Patcher.

http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,6843.msg59073.html#msg59073

Follow that link and click the "Patching IOS36" spoiler.

erm that didnt do anything, shop channel still gives the wrong error message and dop mii still refuses to install/patch ios 56.

Oh, whoops, I thought you were trying to run channel cheats...sorry.

Uhm...you could probably use Simple IOS Patcher, and make sure that you also check the Trucha signing bug, as well as ES_Identify, for IOS36.  Then you could use DOP Mii, select IOS36 as the "IOS that accepts fake signing", and then you should be able to use DOP Mii.

Alternatively, 111 also posted something on the same page about how to update the Wii Shop Channel.  Click the spoiler under "Update the Wii Shop Channel without updating the System Menu"

http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,6843.msg59073.html#msg59073

look all i want to do is install ios 56 with dop mii, no other ios just 56. but its not bloody doing it and im losing my temper here. I dont need ios 36 cause i was told that 56 is the problem.

Kindly go lose your temper somewhere else.

You already *have* IOS36.  The problem is that you need an IOS that supports fake signing.  If you want to use Dop Mii, you'll need one with that.  IOS36 is a common IOS to patch, because most Wiis have it and they don't use it for very many games.

Or you can just read the link I gave you.

Or, if you have the latest HBC, just update the System Menu.

And in the future, remember, we do this for free.  Before going off on us, make sure you've actually...you know...read the links we provided.  If it's too hard to read the link, maybe homebrew isn't for you.

yeah im sorry guys it was stupid to get into a temper, I was panicking cause this problem i got with the shop channel scared me, I was afraid i did something wrong and bricked my wii. I dont have a clue what im doing cause im not very good with this technical stuff. I only use the HBC to use Gecko OS to use codes on games like I would with an AR. and everytime a new system update appears it blocks access to the shop channel till the upgrade is done. I used Wii scu before to update the shop channel alone and it asks what version install of the channel and i selected 19 when i shouldve chose 20 and after using v20, the shop channel kept giving me an eroor message which has nothing to do with it. It told me to remove a cd from the drive which is weird since the channel doesnt even use the drive. I started panicking and getting things wrong.

So yeah im sorry for bursting out like that cause i can see your all trying to help, im just afraid of bricking the wii if i get things wrong.

but you mentioned if i have the latest HBC then update the system. Do you mean use nintendos official update? cause arent we told to avoid that or it may brick our wii.

my system is at the mo version 4.0E
my HBC is Version 1.0.8 *original install from Twilight Hack*
my Gecko oS is version 1.9.3.1

so are you saying I could just update with nintendo normally and still have both HBC and Gecko OS working?

HBC 1.0.8 changed the "name" of HBC so that the  new SM would stop deleting it.  So yes, if you install the new SM, you should be okay, although you may lose any channel cheats (WiiWare/VC) and some cIOS may be stubbed (usually used for pirating).  The channel cheats are easily restored with that Simple IOS Patcher.  Gecko OS will still be able to play any disc-based game no matter what.

It's kinda sad, cos it sounds like you're really, really close.  What version of Dop Mii are you using?  The newer versions probably don't require fake-signing IOS.  (fake-sign is a bug that was in an IOS which lets you "cheat" the cryptographic hash to install your own software)

The Dop Mii I used is version 13, i had to find it using google, the dop mii at the wii brew website doesnt extract properly with win rar, i try extracting it but the files are corrupt.

This has probably been asked before but how do i get wiiware and vc game codes to work on 4.3e do i need a patch or something

http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,6843.msg59073.html#msg59073

Follow that link and click the "Patching IOS36" spoiler.

I have done all the steps but when i come up to this stage i don't know what to do-Place it into a "wad" folder on the root of your SD card.  Do i need to download that first.

which version of DOP Mii should I use and if I could have a link to a rar file that isn't corrupted

Is anyone having trouble getting onto the codemii website and wiibrew.org website as i think both of these sites are down i cant even use the homebrew browser at the moment as it uses codemii website to retrieve information

Yeah me as well. Annoys me because I need to get the latest version of Gecko.

wiibrew.org seems to be up and working again but codemii is still down cant use homebrew browser at the moment

Does anyone know when it'll be back up? Who's working on it?

Both sites are up and running again now

Hi guys a quick question, how do i use Dopmii if i have 4.2 and want to use the wii shop channel for 4.3?

I'm too lazy to check but, if you have the latest version of Dop-Mii you could check channels and look if it alows you to install the channel for 4.3 there. You could also always get Dop-Shop and install the newest version of the Shop channel if you can't with Dop-Mii. I hope this helps.

Ya it really sucked I accendently updated and I had to go through alot of stuff!  I recommend too
NOT UPDATE

My son accidentally upgraded to 4.3e. Good thing I had a copy of my Wii on my computer. Dop-Mii was excellent to help me through everything too.
So I recommend backing up your Wii + checking everything with Dop-Mii
O0

If you have the latest HBC, updating to 4.3 is safe.

Quote from: dcx2 on January 27, 2011, 12:55:46 AM
If you have the latest HBC, updating to 4.3 is safe.

Does that mean that updating won't wipe out the ability to use cheats on WiiWare/Virtual Console games anymore?

Hm...I don't know if System Menu updates will remove patches from other IOS.  Your question implies that it used to...so I would say that 4.3 will probably wipe out channel cheats because it's unpatching IOS36.  EDIT: what it will not do is remove HBC, because 1.0.8 uses a different Title ID that 4.3 will not remove.

However, the process of patching IOS36 is much simpler than it used to be.  An official update is probably the easiest way to get the Shop Channel back.  Then use Simple IOS patcher or something like that; it uses AHBPROT instead of downgrading IOS14, which was a process fraught with peril.

The reason I asked was because I did the system update before to update the Shop Channel and when I went through the process to get my WW/VC cheats back in Gecko, I lost the ability to play newer games (Metroid: Other M and Epic Mickey to name a couple) through the normal Wii launcher and had to load them through Gecko anyway. I'd like to only use Gecko when I want to play around with cheat codes and use the normal method of booting up game disks when I want to play a game straight, yet also not lose my Load Channel option in Gecko. Is that possible at all or am I just pipe dreaming here?

Ya know, someone should REALLY update the "ZOMG DON'T UPDATE" banner...

OK
1 How do I play 4.3 games without updateing
2 My little brother updated his WII so what are his options

and yes i have been using search but it's damn near impossible to find a clear answer
gives me every post that contains 4or a 3
seperately
or a sorry no matches found

^Launch your game through Gecko OS, 'nuff said.

And other than "shady stuff", nowadays you can use nearly any homebrew on 4.3

Quote from: Cyn on March 24, 2011, 12:41:57 AM
1 How do I play 4.3 games without updateing

I assume you mean, "how do I play games that require installing a new IOS, without updating the System Menu?"

If you use Gecko OS instead of the Disc Channel to play games, and a new game requires the installation of a new IOS, Gecko OS will read the update partition on the disc and install the new IOS without updating the System Menu.  So just use Gecko OS instead of the Disc Channel for all games.

Quote2 My little brother updated his WII so what are his options

If the Homebrew Channel was already installed and updated to 1.0.8, then updating the System Menu is safe.

If the HBC was not installed, or was out-of-date, then you will need to re-run the Hackmii Installer to get HBC.  This requires a gamesave exploit of some sort if you're on 4.3.  Read this whole post, specifically the part about exploits and the Hackmii Installer.

http://wiird.l0nk.org/forum/index.php/topic,6843.msg59070.html#msg59070

This morning for shits and giggles I modded a 4.3 (Used from GameStop), I used the program ModMii (google) and it gave me all the files i need to mod this bad one. Currently everything is working awesomely and even got BootMii to Load in Boot2, set the priiloader to do its thing so I wouldnt get 4.3 v2! If your going to use gecko then in Multi-Mod Manager (MMM) you just have to change your currently used IOS236 to whichever IOS gecko uses I dont remember off the top of my head

Gecko OS uses IOS36 by default.

ModMii looks interesting...

QuoteWiiBrew recommends that you run the latest version of the HackMii Installer and then optionally update your Wii to 4.3 using Nintendo's official updater.

Only update using the official update procedure. Downgrading or installing patched updates is unsupported, dangerous, and may permanently brick your Wii.

This means that you can update your Wii safely to 4.3 AND be able to have HBC 1.0.8 on the same console. To install HBC on 4.3 use either Smash Stack or Indiana Pwns.

Oh, and Cyn, ask if your brother has Smash Bros. Brawl or Lego: Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures. If he does, then good. If not...

Basically, updating to 4.3 is safe for HBC and all that. ;)

Quote from: Cydewinder on May 30, 2011, 07:05:11 PM

QuoteWiiBrew recommends that you run the latest version of the HackMii Installer and then optionally update your Wii to 4.3 using Nintendo's official updater.

Only update using the official update procedure. Downgrading or installing patched updates is unsupported, dangerous, and may permanently brick your Wii.

This means that you can update your Wii safely to 4.3 AND be able to have HBC 1.0.8 on the same console. To install HBC on 4.3 use either Smash Stack or Indiana Pwns.

Oh, and Cyn, ask if your brother has Smash Bros. Brawl or Lego: Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures. If he does, then good. If not...

Basically, updating to 4.3 is safe for HBC and all that. ;)

It's safe for HBC, but various other homebrew tends to get screwed up by updates (particularly things that rely on IOS mods).  The 4.3 System Menu has no advantage whatsoever, so while it's not a huge disaster if you update accidentally (and yes, there are ways to restore your IOS mods from 4.3), it's still inadvisable to update unless you have a very good reason.

Newbie here: TOO LATE! Can I use a NAND image to reverse an upgrade?

Thanks for any info

Quote from: hetoan2 on June 22, 2010, 02:53:18 AM
I recommend not updating at all. Lots of changes for stuff you dont need.

It deletes homebrew channel under J0DI and HAXX

Restubs a couple of IOS's that are used for cIOS and such.

New IOS80

Do not update. ;)

So long as you have HBC 1.0.8 it's okay to have 4.3 installed.

All I know is that when you have a Wii that was updated and then lost Homebrew, doing a hack like the Indiana Pwns hack works. A known "bug" is that when trying to enter the Art Room, it takes a few seconds to let you in.

I'm skeptical that it's the real TT, because they are not just one person.  Here are the known members of TT

segher
bushing
tmbinc
marcan
dhewg
drmr

If e.g. bushing or segher wanted to join this forum, I'm pretty sure they'd make their name bushing or segher.  This guy, though, posted his email address in the Google+ thread, and his email address doesn't line up nicely with any of the known TT hackers.

I'm not saying it is or isn't, I'm just saying I'm skeptical, that's all.  I should find TT on IRC and ask them if this user is legit.

Remember, on the Internet, all the women are actually men, and all the little girls are actually FBI agents.

EDIT:

Confirmed fake.

Hey, I just have one question: I have 3.3U version, I also have the HBC installed (the latest), BUT my problem is with just two games so far: Kirby Return To Dreamland & Epic Mickey.... from what I heard, I am not  the only one having problems with these games.
I tried to run them with Gecko OS, but it always happens that the game freezes
Several have told me that I need to upgrade, there is no choice
so the question: is convenient and safe upgrade to version 4.3, having the HBC already installed? Gecko OS still work?

Quote from: mkarim85 on March 10, 2012, 06:46:40 PM
Hey, I just have one question: I have 3.3U version, I also have the HBC installed (the latest), BUT my problem is with just two games so far: Kirby Return To Dreamland & Epic Mickey.... from what I heard, I am not  the only one having problems with these games.
I tried to run them with Gecko OS, but it always happens that the game freezes
Several have told me that I need to upgrade, there is no choice
so the question: is convenient and safe upgrade to version 4.3, having the HBC already installed? Gecko OS still work?

You need to update the IOS that the games use. If you're going to update the system menu, make sure to have the latest version of HBC.
And yes, Gecko OS will still work.