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Poll
Question: Will you update to 4.0?
Option 1: hell yeah
Option 2: no ill wait for wiibrew to find a workaround
Option 3: no, even if wiibrew find a workaround the update doesnt interest me
Title: 4.0/4.1 update
Post by: Jassim on March 25, 2009, 05:07:20 PM
i would check myself but my nintendo wiis away at the moment. according to wiibrew 4.0 has been released (wheres 3.5,3.6...etc.??)

25 March 09: Nintendo has released System Menu 4.0, which includes a batch of IOS updates. Updating is not recommended at this point.

Edit by Link: 4.1 was released which is essentially just a quick patch to 4.0 - no new special protections were added with 4.1 so all 4.0 vulneribilities apply to 4.0!
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: ssbbdude on March 25, 2009, 05:12:57 PM
 :eek: post a link to it im scared :eek:
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Jassim on March 25, 2009, 05:14:37 PM
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.0 (http://wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.0)

its actually seems like a good update, kills homebrew but at least it does other things which are useful
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: ssbbdude on March 25, 2009, 05:17:24 PM
i just read it, it does seem good but i cant do it!

Version 4.0 of the System Menu is yet to be announced and was released on March 25th, 2009. Presumably will be announced in the next few minutes of Satoru Iwata's GDC talk. This menu includes as-of-yet not officially announced features related to launching/copying channels from an SD card.

The announcement lists these changes:

Virtual Console/WiiWare titles can be launched and downloaded directly from a SD card.
Shows up as its own set of channels: SD Card Menu
SDHC support, up to 32GB
...
The update includes a batch of IOS updates issued a few hours before the System Menu update.


Affected                                                                  |Workaround 
Twilight Hack 0.1beta2                                               | None yet 
DVDx                                                                       |None yet 
The Homebrew Channel (new install AND already installed) |None yet 

Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Romaap on March 25, 2009, 05:33:25 PM
It took a really long time, but Nintendo finaly made a good update
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Link on March 25, 2009, 05:42:12 PM
Stickied.. also according to some guys in the discussion, an already installed HBC is NOT affected!
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Jassim on March 25, 2009, 05:43:26 PM
is the twilight hack officially dead now or did nintendo not try to stop it this time. i really really hope a workaround comes soon
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: ssbbdude on March 25, 2009, 05:46:55 PM
i really wanna test it out, but im not killing my homebrew
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Gh0sT on March 25, 2009, 05:57:18 PM
I got it
All it blocks is the Gamecube Backup Launcher and the IOS downgrader from working

But wads/GeckoOS/Wii backups all work fine!
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: ssbbdude on March 25, 2009, 06:10:15 PM
backups we use backups?
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Jassim on March 25, 2009, 06:22:48 PM
it affects the twilight hack too aparently, and dvdx
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Link on March 25, 2009, 06:29:34 PM
Quote from: ssbbdude57 on March 25, 2009, 06:10:15 PM
backups we use backups?

even if he does, I do not care.. as long as no information is shared on how people get backups running or where to get them, it's their problem
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: ssbbdude on March 25, 2009, 06:31:42 PM
ok
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Jassim on March 25, 2009, 06:37:04 PM
gh0st do you mean the ios downgrader which is used to downgrade your ioses or the ios downgrade as in the one which downgrades you from 3.2E to 3.0E or whatever
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: BahamutLagoon on March 25, 2009, 06:38:19 PM
I want this update but my concern is that with the 3.4 update Nintendo can update your system without you knowing. That comes with the 4.0 update, right? And if WiiConnect24 is turned off wouldn't that stop them from doing what they want?
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Jassim on March 25, 2009, 06:39:24 PM
oh by the way, if anyone heres on 3.4, please answer my question.


Did nintendo automatically update you to 4.0 or was that a load of bs
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Gh0sT on March 25, 2009, 06:43:23 PM
Quote from: Jassim on March 25, 2009, 06:37:04 PM
gh0st do you mean the ios downgrader which is used to downgrade your ioses or the ios downgrade as in the one which downgrades you from 3.2E to 3.0E or whatever

the 2nd one :)
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: SuperLink on March 25, 2009, 06:50:19 PM
Same as others, I want to know if anyone with 3.4 has found this to be an automatic update like Nintendo said it may be. Anyone have any idea? Or did they lie about that and it's still prompted?

Once I know about that I'm downloading right away.

EDIT: Friend just told me he had to prompt it to update. He's not sure since he prompted it as soon as he switched the Wii on (literally went to update right away)

Anyone else know anything?
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Jassim on March 25, 2009, 07:00:50 PM
a convo i had in #wiihelp

[18:39] <Jassim> who was/is on 3.4 here?
[18:39] <djdyna> arikados new release
[18:39] <TheLemonM> cya
[18:39] <Jassim> anyone?
[18:40] * TheLemonM ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: killing myself)
[18:40] <Piko> Jassim, Using 3.2U here
[18:41] <Jassim> k
[18:41] <Piko> I also have a 4.0U wii as well.
[18:41] <Jassim> i wanna know if this "auto  update" thing was true
[18:41] <Piko> No
[18:41] <Jassim> its bs?
[18:41] <Piko> Yup



@gh0st: wasnt that already blocked in 3.3v2?


Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: ssbbdude on March 25, 2009, 07:11:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYPqufDWwto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYPqufDWwto)

btw just tell you, you cant get on the wii shop channel
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: SuperLink on March 25, 2009, 07:17:23 PM
Win. I'll be downloading it in a few mins.

Thank you oh so very much Nintendo ^^
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: cubivore on March 25, 2009, 07:39:28 PM
I sort of want to update, as launching a WiiWare/VC game from an SD card would be helpful. But I really don't want to loose the Homebrew Channel, as I have Disaster Day of Crisis coming in the mail, and I really want to play it. So my question is does any know if I update to 4.0 from 3.4 with the homebrew channel installed will I still be able to use it properly, most importantly Gecko OS and the ability to play PAL games on NTSC Wii? Thanks.
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: ssbbdude on March 25, 2009, 07:45:42 PM
check the video ^_^
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Jassim on March 25, 2009, 08:00:11 PM
guys i reccomend giving it at least a week to see if anyone finds a workaround for this
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Macha on March 25, 2009, 08:07:06 PM
So if I get a Wii with no homebrew with this update, I can't use the twilight hack?

Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Jassim on March 25, 2009, 08:10:27 PM
macha, at the moment, yes, but hopefully therell be a workaround for that, i think twilight hacks dead now, we''ll propbably get something like the mario galaxy hack, or the ssbb hack i dunno
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Macha on March 25, 2009, 08:12:08 PM
Oh damn, how long does it take before Nintendo ships out Wii's with new updates? D:
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: hetoan2 on March 25, 2009, 09:28:59 PM
Oh god how I have longed for this update :D

But its a double edged sword that must be downloaded in pieces to prevent all the horrible things that the update has to offer.
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Link on March 25, 2009, 09:41:34 PM
Quote from: hetoan2 on March 25, 2009, 09:28:59 PM
Oh god how I have longed for this update :D

But its a double edged sword that must be downloaded in pieces to prevent all the horrible things that the update has to offer.

I assume that we'll get to see some form of download where all IOS will be manually fake signed and the menu will be downloaded seperately..

oh and marcan: http://hackmii.com/2009/03/system-menu-40-rundown/ (http://hackmii.com/2009/03/system-menu-40-rundown/)
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Romaap on March 25, 2009, 10:17:20 PM
Quote from: Marcan in a comment on hackmii
New exploits exist and are on the way.
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n31/Romaap/cf1a750f.jpg)
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: hetoan2 on March 25, 2009, 11:03:06 PM
screw it i'm just doing the update :|
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: ssbbdude on March 25, 2009, 11:05:32 PM
:eek:
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Austin on March 25, 2009, 11:27:43 PM
an awesome homebrew app would be one that has to deal with the updates. whenever a nintendo update comes out, and a workaround is found, all files (like latest wii shop) can be downloaded, or maybe even installed also.
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Crystal Jinjo on March 26, 2009, 02:48:19 AM
So its ok to install 4.0? see i dont hack, i use HBC to use the Gecko OS and use the game codes I find here to use on the games, I just wanna know if thats ok?
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: 111 on March 26, 2009, 03:10:26 AM
Crystal Jinjo, if you use the Rebooter function of GeckoOS, you should not update.  If I remember correctly, '3.3V2' and higher breaks that feature of GeckoOS.

If you do not use the Rebooter, then I'm guessing that it would be okay to update, as long as you have the Homebrew Channel installed.
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Crystal Jinjo on March 26, 2009, 03:18:46 AM
i use homebrew channel like an action replay, i get the codes for wii games from this site and put them in a codes folder on my sd and when i go to HBC i use gecko os and then run game and when it loads the game it loads the codes for the game that I saved on the SD card, thats all I use HBC for.
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: justin28 on March 26, 2009, 03:33:39 AM
Guys Need a answer does the gamecube action replay the one that works on 3.4e still work on 4.0 would love a quick replay
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: luigiman1928 on March 26, 2009, 03:35:17 AM
So everything is ok with this update? I forgive Nintendo for what they did now.
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: 111 on March 26, 2009, 04:01:40 AM
Quote from: Crystal Jinjo on March 26, 2009, 03:18:46 AM
i use homebrew channel like an action replay, i get the codes for wii games from this site and put them in a codes folder on my sd and when i go to HBC i use gecko os and then run game and when it loads the game it loads the codes for the game that I saved on the SD card, thats all I use HBC for.

You should be fine, as long as the codes that you are using do not require the Rebooter function of GeckoOS.  I don't recommend doing so, but if you decide to update to 4.0, make sure you have the Homebrew Channel installed.

Quote from: justin28 on March 26, 2009, 03:33:39 AM
Guys Need a answer does the gamecube action replay the one that works on 3.4e still work on 4.0 would love a quick replay

The MIOS was not updated for this firmware, so I'm guessing that it should still work.
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: justin28 on March 26, 2009, 04:14:23 AM
Guys i just updated to 4.0 and i can confirm gamecube action replays still works on 4.0 so if you have the latest version it will work.Guys gecko os and ocarina work fine just tested the ocarina codes and they work fine.
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: darkadvice on March 26, 2009, 10:06:58 AM
Nice update but I will wait for a manual menu install so I can keep rebooter working, and all the other security I get from having 3.2U firmware. Thanks for all the information from those who have tested this update out.
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: hetoan2 on March 26, 2009, 10:18:52 AM
Quote from: 111 on March 26, 2009, 04:01:40 AM
Quote from: Crystal Jinjo on March 26, 2009, 03:18:46 AM
i use homebrew channel like an action replay, i get the codes for wii games from this site and put them in a codes folder on my sd and when i go to HBC i use gecko os and then run game and when it loads the game it loads the codes for the game that I saved on the SD card, thats all I use HBC for.

You should be fine, as long as the codes that you are using do not require the Rebooter function of GeckoOS.  I don't recommend doing so, but if you decide to update to 4.0, make sure you have the Homebrew Channel installed.

Quote from: justin28 on March 26, 2009, 03:33:39 AM
Guys Need a answer does the gamecube action replay the one that works on 3.4e still work on 4.0 would love a quick replay

The MIOS was not updated for this firmware, so I'm guessing that it should still work.
The MIOS was still installed though. Don't think that if you have a cMIOS you will be  safe, because this update gives you MIOSv8.

If you try installing cIOSCORP and the like the menu will give a "The System Files Are Corrupted" message, and then it will "fix" them for you... -.-
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: justin28 on March 26, 2009, 10:25:47 AM
Im happy with this update i had the homebrew channel installed before the update gecko os, ocarina work fine and even gamecube action replay still work i am very surprised that the gamecube action replay still works,thought they would have blocked it.
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Crystal Jinjo on March 26, 2009, 10:57:36 AM
would it be best to avoid 4.0 for now in case in the future you are able to hack virtual console and wii ware games which may use the reboot function of gecko OS? I presume they are researching ways to hack wii ware and virtual console games
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: dondi on March 26, 2009, 12:33:34 PM
waninkoko released his new Firmware Updater 4.0

DESCRIPTION

"This application allows you to update your console's firmware installing only the
needed applications (IOS, System Menu, channels...).

Thanks to it you can keep some features like Trucha bug that affected first IOS versions."

Any testers here ;)

Cya
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Jassim on March 26, 2009, 01:40:55 PM
Quote from: dondi on March 26, 2009, 12:33:34 PM
waninkoko released his new Firmware Updater 4.0

DESCRIPTION

"This application allows you to update your console's firmware installing only the
needed applications (IOS, System Menu, channels...).

Thanks to it you can keep some features like Trucha bug that affected first IOS versions."

Any testers here ;)

Cya

so youll still be on 3.2 but will have the advantages of 4.0?
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Panda On Smack on March 26, 2009, 02:11:46 PM
http://209.85.227.132/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://www.teknoconsolas.es/blog/waninkoko/firmware-updater-40&prev=_t&usg=ALkJrhhK9Y9UQAyqZ2kheH_Qs1vO3JnHqw (http://209.85.227.132/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://www.teknoconsolas.es/blog/waninkoko/firmware-updater-40&prev=_t&usg=ALkJrhhK9Y9UQAyqZ2kheH_Qs1vO3JnHqw)

Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: ssbbdude on March 26, 2009, 04:35:12 PM
it workies :D
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Jassim on March 26, 2009, 04:37:34 PM
so ssbbdude your on 3.2E with all the 4.0 features and advantages
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: ssbbdude on March 26, 2009, 04:39:12 PM
it says im on 4.0E which is quite annoying now i cant use starfall

Rebooter: Works
Wad Manager: Works

you can now Move channels instead of Copying and Deleting
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Jassim on March 26, 2009, 05:42:01 PM
looks like nintendo blew it, again.

Marcans post at hackmii:
Hi there Nintendo
March 26th, 2009 by marcan · No Comments
Good job trying (again) to kill PatchMii and forgetting to overwrite cIOS. In case you don’t know, that’s IOS249 (not IOS254), and it’s what all the VC/WiiWare pirates use, as well as the softmod pirate’s choice of IOS, as it includes DVD read patches. It’s also what they’re using to patch your update now so they can enjoy SD launching of pirated titles. Good job.

Hint: If you worked on screwing up piracy instead of blocking homebrew, you might have a better chance at stopping it. And you know that we aren’t going to help the pirates, don’t you?

This was also your last chance to get rid of some piracy before the release of a NAND backup/restore solution. You blew it.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

they overwrote the wrong IOS, loooool!!!! oh god thats hilarious, they need to think up of an amazing update whichll literally force the pirates to update
___________________________________________
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: ssbbdude on March 26, 2009, 06:02:40 PM
i might have too sell my wii now and buy a fricking new one!!   :'(
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Jassim on March 26, 2009, 06:05:39 PM
whys that?
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: Batandy on March 26, 2009, 06:06:31 PM
No,id wait to get a workaround,
Because i love the Twilight Hack,and i don't want to update only for this stupid SD full support...
But i'm waiting for a sd patch that makes you to play custom wads without instellig 'em.
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: ssbbdude on March 26, 2009, 06:08:35 PM
lalala i put all my homebrew stuff on my SD card lalala now i cant move it back lalala or play it on the Sd card menu lalala!!
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 26, 2009, 08:10:03 PM
ssbbdude. for your solution you need the trucha bug back in IOS 60.

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=143281 (http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=143281)

:D
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: ssbbdude on March 26, 2009, 08:19:15 PM
but i cant get on homebrew :( thnx anyway
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 26, 2009, 08:28:47 PM
oh... you don't have a CIOS?

and now you have no HBC.

sucks.

Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: ssbbdude on March 26, 2009, 08:31:20 PM
yes it does
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Jassim on March 26, 2009, 08:35:56 PM
just wait for the new hack, whether its a brawl hack, a mario galaxy hack whatever, they always manage to find a way through this so i wouldnt worry too much
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: ssbbdude on March 26, 2009, 09:05:04 PM
if its a mario galaxy hack i gotta buy them game
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: panmusic on March 26, 2009, 11:42:51 PM
I tried Ocarina after the 4.0 update and it does not work.In the menu (Ocarina application or Geckos) appears a 'SD error' message.
Why is this happening?Can anybody help me?
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Crystal Jinjo on March 27, 2009, 12:13:19 AM
Im seeing people having problems with the update now not running gecko os or loading codes from the sd, and with the workaround posted still installing 4.0... i wanna update for the reason cause i need the shop channel back... now what do i do...

if theres a hack for galaxy or brawl wouldnt it be found by now!
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Full Metal Kirby on March 27, 2009, 12:29:55 AM
Quote from: Crystal Jinjo on March 27, 2009, 12:13:19 AM
[...]if theres a hack for galaxy or brawl wouldnt it be found by now!
Found, yes, mentioned, no. Just because you've never heard of there being a hack for them doesn't mean there isn't one. What would be the point of mentioning other 'bugs' when the twilight hack has been working fine for a whole year or so? All it'd do is make it easier for Nintendo to patch sooner, which is why other 'bugs' haven't been mentioned for other games.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 27, 2009, 12:34:16 AM
I've seen videos of homebrew being run off of a hack for Godfather Wii and Super Mario Galaxy.

Wish i knew where the videos were. It was like a month ago too, but i bet those are where the next versions will show up.

The Godfather one took like 5 minutes of gameplay to get to the part where to code started though...
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: g6flavor on March 27, 2009, 08:28:55 AM
anyone tried this?
http://wehackwii.pbwiki.com/News+-+System+Menu+v4 (http://wehackwii.pbwiki.com/News+-+System+Menu+v4)
and will usbgecko still function after the upgrade?
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Link on March 27, 2009, 08:31:27 AM
if you keep the HBC and Gecko OS a USB gecko will work!
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: panmusic on March 27, 2009, 11:32:44 AM
Guys,am I the only one with Ocarina not working after the 4.0 update?
Please help me...
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Panda On Smack on March 27, 2009, 11:59:00 AM
Quote from: panmusic on March 27, 2009, 11:32:44 AM
Guys,am I the only one with Ocarina not working after the 4.0 update?
Please help me...

Ocarina is VERY outdated. Use Gecko OS
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: panmusic on March 27, 2009, 01:46:29 PM
Quote from: Panda On Smack on March 27, 2009, 11:59:00 AM
Quote from: panmusic on March 27, 2009, 11:32:44 AM
Guys,am I the only one with Ocarina not working after the 4.0 update?
Please help me...

Ocarina is VERY outdated. Use Gecko OS

I tried Gecko OS with the same results unfortunately...
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 27, 2009, 07:17:02 PM
you don't have a cIOS therefore you wont be able to use rebooter.

nintendo also changed around some other things in their failed attempt at stopping piracy. Possibly this is one of the things. I mean it would stop all the people from hacking on wifi that they have to spend their time banning.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: panmusic on March 27, 2009, 07:20:49 PM
Quote from: hetoan2 on March 27, 2009, 07:17:02 PM
you don't have a cIOS therefore you wont be able to use rebooter.

nintendo also changed around some other things in their failed attempt at stopping piracy. Possibly this is one of the things. I mean it would stop all the people from hacking on wifi that they have to spend their time banning.

I am not an online cheater but I find Ocarina very helpfull for unlockables.Is there any hope for an updated Ocarina version?
Do we have any information?
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 27, 2009, 07:25:03 PM
Ocarina will not be updated. If you still have HBC you can wait until someone figures out a downgrade method.

you might want to start by seeing if you can install IOS 16 over the new one or just see if you can use an IOS60 patcher to load trucha bug in that.

At this point there is no way back from 4.0 without a cIOS. We were warned by 3.3v2 and most of us got cIOS's just in case. :|
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Link on March 27, 2009, 07:34:31 PM
Quote from: panmusic on March 27, 2009, 07:20:49 PM
Quote from: hetoan2 on March 27, 2009, 07:17:02 PM
you don't have a cIOS therefore you wont be able to use rebooter.

nintendo also changed around some other things in their failed attempt at stopping piracy. Possibly this is one of the things. I mean it would stop all the people from hacking on wifi that they have to spend their time banning.

I am not an online cheater but I find Ocarina very helpfull for unlockables.Is there any hope for an updated Ocarina version?
Do we have any information?

What hetoan2 said.. Gecko OS is the new Ocarina.. there will not be any Ocarina anymore ever.. basically tell me how you used Ocarina..

Start it.. press A to start the game with codes

Wanna know what.. close your eyes.. and use the exact same tactics with Gecko OS thus ignoring the terrifying menus (notice: sarcasm).. press A.. and it will start with codes!
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: panmusic on March 27, 2009, 09:45:09 PM
Quote from: Link on March 27, 2009, 07:34:31 PM
Quote from: panmusic on March 27, 2009, 07:20:49 PM
Quote from: hetoan2 on March 27, 2009, 07:17:02 PM
you don't have a cIOS therefore you wont be able to use rebooter.

nintendo also changed around some other things in their failed attempt at stopping piracy. Possibly this is one of the things. I mean it would stop all the people from hacking on wifi that they have to spend their time banning.

I am not an online cheater but I find Ocarina very helpfull for unlockables.Is there any hope for an updated Ocarina version?
Do we have any information?

The problem is that I tried Gecko OS(OO2 fix) and while it launches the game normally, it fails to incorporate the codes.Again the same' SD error' message.Have you tried it after the update?Any ideas?

What hetoan2 said.. Gecko OS is the new Ocarina.. there will not be any Ocarina anymore ever.. basically tell me how you used Ocarina..

Start it.. press A to start the game with codes

Wanna know what.. close your eyes.. and use the exact same tactics with Gecko OS thus ignoring the terrifying menus (notice: sarcasm).. press A.. and it will start with codes!
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 27, 2009, 10:16:16 PM
don't quote a post unless you have something to say.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Crystal Jinjo on March 27, 2009, 10:28:07 PM
im starting to think i better just save up to buy a 2nd wii concsole, one for the HBC with an old system menu and one always updating to play downloaded games from the shop channel and games without cheating.

I only wanna use the HBC for gecko os to use codes on games, like an action replay but i also want this cool update for the shop channel and running downloaded games off of sd, but im seeing problems installing 4.0 with HBC and twilight hack etc. Besides I think the wii is going down in price
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 27, 2009, 11:39:56 PM
wii will not change in price.

plus that is a stupid reason to buy a second wii. HBC and gecko OS are unaffected by this update as long as you have a cIOS and even then you can easily undo the updates for free.

you don't need to waste your money on an overpriced system again when the second one won't be homebrewable ever either. Now ALL wiis in stores have a new boot1 so you'll find yourself royally fucked.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: panmusic on March 28, 2009, 07:05:03 AM
Sorry for the previous post.I suppose that I screwed up my answer.
I tried Gecko OS(both versions,002fix and regular) and neither can use Ocarina.It displays again the same message 'SD error'.
Is there any hope about an updated Ocarina or Gecko OS version which supports 4.0 update?
Or am I doing something wrong?Has anyone else tried to use Ocarina codes after the last update?
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Link on March 28, 2009, 08:45:28 AM
Quote from: panmusic on March 28, 2009, 07:05:03 AM
[...] again the same message 'SD error'. [...]

SDHC support must be added to the application itself.. the shop channel was made SDHC aware, the Wii Menu is.. back then the HBC learnt SDHC long before the Wii Menu.. Gecko OS admittedly still uses the old libogc libraries.. the new version might switch to new libogc and would then support SDHC..

Ocarina will not be updated so not SDHC support for it!

That issue has nothing to do with 4.0!
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Crystal Jinjo on March 28, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
I dont have the cIOS file, where can I get one and where should I put it before installing 4.0? i gotta make sure that gecko os does work after the update, im not concerned bout twilight hack anymore cause i will be keeping the HBC and Gecko OS.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Link on March 28, 2009, 01:07:08 PM
If you wanna update with Waninkokos Updater or other updaters then you do not need any cIOS, you can downgrade later on with regular WAD managers!
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 28, 2009, 03:00:03 PM
as long as you're not on 3.3v2 you  still need trucha bug in at least 1 IOS to downgrade.

IOS 16 is no longer an option.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Crystal Jinjo on March 28, 2009, 03:27:25 PM
im on 3.3E normal 3.3 version, so where do i go, what do i do, im not a techincal person so help XD
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 28, 2009, 03:33:17 PM
install cios rev 8 by waninkoko google it. then use his updater

Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: panmusic on March 28, 2009, 03:38:19 PM
Quote from: Link on March 28, 2009, 08:45:28 AM
Quote from: panmusic on March 28, 2009, 07:05:03 AM
[...] again the same message 'SD error'. [...]

SDHC support must be added to the application itself.. the shop channel was made SDHC aware, the Wii Menu is.. back then the HBC learnt SDHC long before the Wii Menu.. Gecko OS admittedly still uses the old libogc libraries.. the new version might switch to new libogc and would then support SDHC..

Ocarina will not be updated so not SDHC support for it!

That issue has nothing to do with 4.0!

The problem is that I tried to use the codes after the 4.0 update using my SD card(non SDHC) also with the same problem again.
I don't think  that SDHC cards cause the problem anymore.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 28, 2009, 05:03:21 PM
if you don't have a cIOS that could be the problem. the only thing is none of us are willing to sacrifice homebrew just to see what your issue is. then we'd all be in the same boat.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: panmusic on March 28, 2009, 05:37:00 PM
Can you inform me about the whole CIOS thing?
What am I must do?Any links for downloads and tutorials?
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Crystal Jinjo on March 28, 2009, 06:53:01 PM
hetoan2: You mean cIOS36 Rev08?
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 28, 2009, 08:29:25 PM
yes

downloads cant be posted on this site
and no tutorials, just google
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Crystal Jinjo on March 29, 2009, 12:00:02 AM
Waninkoko's 4.0 updater isnt appearing in the HBC, ive placed the downloaded files in the apps folder but its not appearing on my HBC menu to install it
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Jassim on March 29, 2009, 12:31:16 AM
make sure its inside a folder called updater which should be inside apps.

also make sure the dol file is boot.dol and not something like updater.dol
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 29, 2009, 12:43:15 AM
waninkoko always has his files not named boot.dol

they never come with a folder, image, or xml either.

only 2 readme's one is english other is espanol
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Crystal Jinjo on March 29, 2009, 03:05:07 AM
Awesome! Installed the need Ios' Cios' and the updater and now ive got the SDVC feature and the games on their load fine, the HBC and Gecko OS work fine with the codes working for games and the new shop channel is runnign again

Thanks for all the help guys =)
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 29, 2009, 12:12:27 PM
One more thing I would do is patch IOS 60. Waninkoko's updater doesn't patch any of them, but if you do patch IOS 60 then you can load homebrew wads from the SD card. Doing this may also bring back the No-copy flag remover from gecko OS's rebooter.

dont move any homebrew to the sd card until you patch ios 60 or you'll be screwed.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: ssbbdude on March 29, 2009, 01:15:33 PM
great i wish i would of known that sooner =[
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: mkarim85 on March 29, 2009, 08:10:42 PM
hi, can someone tell me if I can use the gecko os to launch a game and use the codes in the new version 4.0??? please!
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 29, 2009, 08:15:48 PM
yes you can. as long as you have homebrew before.

id recommend a cios and trucha patched ios's tho.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Crystal Jinjo on March 29, 2009, 08:28:19 PM
Hetoan2: I think ive already done that, I googled the patcher and it came across a page with the file for the IOS patcher which I had already used along with installing the updater, so I think im all set then =)
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 29, 2009, 08:48:04 PM
k

let me know how it goes :D
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Jassim on March 29, 2009, 08:51:27 PM
all honesty its not worth it, and dont get overexcited and move your homebrew channel to the sd menu *cough*...ssbbdude...*cough* cos youll regret it.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: ssbbdude on March 29, 2009, 09:10:46 PM
>:(
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Austin on March 29, 2009, 11:44:45 PM
i wouldnt have copied EVERYTHING and THEN tried to load, i'd try one thing that i could put back easily.... like wad manager channel .... but i know how ssbbdude feels, when 3.3v2 came out i updated, then some annoying family member deleted it :| luckily a workaround came out soon (and i used twilight hack cause that still worked...) hope a workaround cames out for ya ssbbdude!
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: ssbbdude on March 30, 2009, 07:48:37 AM
 :)
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Crystal Jinjo on March 30, 2009, 11:36:07 AM
I don't intend to copy HBC over since it may be dangerous, but I just wanted the SD feature so i can save VC games and channels onto the card and load off the card instead, Im hoping nintendo will be able to allow saves for VC games and Wii games to be loaded off of SD card instead of having to have them on the system, that way the SD cards will act like a PROPER memory card.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on March 30, 2009, 08:26:05 PM
Can't ever load saves off of the SD card. The memory can only be loaded from the NAND. And nintendo can't get it to bypass their own save protection. So their not going to implement the feature if it has practically no compatibility. Wifi games are numerous now a days :|
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Clel on April 03, 2009, 09:10:18 PM
Gecko Loader can still load games if I just update right?
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: ssbbdude on April 05, 2009, 08:49:42 PM
Shouldn't we update the news from 3.4 to 4.0??
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Fred on April 05, 2009, 09:33:02 PM
Is there a walkaround on the update including the shop update yet? Want to buy majora's mask soon.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Link on April 05, 2009, 10:51:06 PM
Hm.. my shop channel didn't work so I tried to just re-run Waninkoko's updater.. it only installed the European shopping channel and it's working!
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Fred on April 06, 2009, 03:11:07 AM
Quote from: Link on April 05, 2009, 10:51:06 PM
Hm.. my shop channel didn't work so I tried to just re-run Waninkoko's updater.. it only installed the European shopping channel and it's working!
And you have an PAL wii right? So the Waninkoko 4.0 update worked alright for you? (Shop and Menu[SD] update)
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: g6flavor on April 06, 2009, 06:11:05 AM
Quote from: Clel on April 03, 2009, 09:10:18 PM
Gecko Loader can still load games if I just update right?
Usbgecko and GeckoOs still works if you use Waninkoko 4.0 update method (do not use Nintendo 4.0 update from Wii Menu)
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Link on April 06, 2009, 07:28:30 AM
Quote from: Fred on April 06, 2009, 03:11:07 AM
Quote from: Link on April 05, 2009, 10:51:06 PM
Hm.. my shop channel didn't work so I tried to just re-run Waninkoko's updater.. it only installed the European shopping channel and it's working!
And you have an PAL wii right? So the Waninkoko 4.0 update worked alright for you? (Shop and Menu[SD] update)

Yes, I have a PAL Wii only! (No US/JP/KO models here)
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: NL-LINK on April 11, 2009, 01:05:42 PM
Its there someone who has a Zelda file of Twilight Hack that works on Wii 4.0?
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Romaap on April 11, 2009, 01:37:57 PM
twilight hack wont work on 4.0, you'll have to wait for this new exploit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bCi0flUyDU) and hope that it will work on 4.0
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: NL-LINK on April 11, 2009, 10:34:26 PM
Who is Comex? He says he needs people to test. I want to test since my Wii version its 4.0
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Benedict on April 13, 2009, 05:17:14 PM
Will my homebrew channel be removed if I try to upgrade?
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: 111 on April 13, 2009, 06:43:31 PM
http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.0 (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.0)

No, it will not be removed.  However, when on 4.0, if you try to move it to the SD card, or delete it off the Wii entirely, you currently will not be able to install it back on.  Honestly, I would recommend that you not update to 4.0.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on April 13, 2009, 07:34:27 PM
4.0 is fine as long as your not an idiot. You can even downgrade. Theres a guide somewhere.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: NL-LINK on April 14, 2009, 12:35:12 AM
I just heard the the HBC its finished and It already works on 4.0. Also that It will be released on this Week. Its that true?
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on April 14, 2009, 03:07:42 AM
wouldnt doubt it. nintendo leaves exploits all the time
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: supermariorick on April 17, 2009, 10:44:59 PM
Im so happy! I actually was able to remove the October 23rd update, and can run homebrew 100%  :) Also, I was bale to get starfall to work, and I blocked updates from coming in! I dont think that I will ever update to 4.0, seeing how much it kills homebrew,and seeing as I finally got my wii to downgrade properly to 3.2!
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Jassim on April 18, 2009, 05:39:02 PM
4.0 really isnt that worth it, unless youve got a tonne of wiiware/vc games
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Yoshi52 on April 18, 2009, 07:51:07 PM
I updated anyway just to see what the Wii Shop Channel was like. The only thing the 4.0 update did to my Homebrew was disable Gecko's Rebooter with its new IOS thingie. And the latest Gecko OS can run multidol games without that now, so there was no problem for me updating. As long as Gecko and Dragon Media Player run, I'm fine. :smileyface:
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: hetoan2 on April 19, 2009, 02:09:21 AM
might want to enable trucha bug just to be safe for the future...
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Yoshi52 on April 19, 2009, 02:07:30 PM
Now the amateur part of me comes in to play... What's a Trucha Bug?
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: bobpaul on April 22, 2009, 08:47:18 AM
http://nintendo.joystiq.com/2008/02/27/trucha-signer-opens-new-wii-hacking-possibilities/ (http://nintendo.joystiq.com/2008/02/27/trucha-signer-opens-new-wii-hacking-possibilities/) <-- first result on google for "trucha bug"
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: chicksdigit56 on May 11, 2009, 10:58:56 PM
I have a question about Waninkoko's 4.0 updater. I have a 3.3v2U Wii if I update using this will I be able to use something like the rebooter or other apps that dont work on 3.3v2 or would I have to downgrade to 3.2 then go 4.0?
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: M. Aensland on May 12, 2009, 01:34:06 AM
Yes you will, well only one i know that works is WAD manager, but i havent tried anything else. Starfall wont work because its a new menu i believe.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: chicksdigit56 on May 12, 2009, 07:49:22 PM
Never mind just used the downgrading guide now no need for the updater.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Yoshi52 on June 09, 2009, 12:43:00 AM
Is it possible for someone to use the Twilight Hack to get HBC when they have the 4.0 firmware? One of my friends was considering getting the HBC, but he has the 4.0 update.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: matt123337 on June 09, 2009, 12:58:12 AM
Quote from: Yoshi52 on June 09, 2009, 12:43:00 AM
Is it possible for someone to use the Twilight Hack to get HBC when they have the 4.0 firmware? One of my friends was considering getting the HBC, but he has the 4.0 update.
no it is not.  He will have to use bannerbomb.
Title: Re: 4.0 update
Post by: Panda On Smack on June 09, 2009, 12:57:11 PM
Or maybe the new Brawl hack?
Title: Re: 4.0 update?
Post by: jfmherokiller on July 12, 2009, 03:12:42 AM
Quote from: BahamutLagoon on March 25, 2009, 06:38:19 PM
I want this update but my concern is that with the 3.4 update Nintendo can update your system without you knowing. That comes with the 4.0 update, right? And if WiiConnect24 is turned off wouldn't that stop them from doing what they want?
i hope it does and anouther way to stop updates is turning off internet
Title: Re: 4.0/4.1 update
Post by: WiiKirby on August 30, 2009, 12:25:12 PM
Um, I am ADHD, so I need all the explanations to my questions in one neat little post if ever possible. I apologize for my lack of patience. ^^;

I have only softmodded it. The only things I have are HBC and two Gecko OS's and savestate loader/unloaders. If I update my Wii, will I still be able to hack Animal crossing, and use codes for that and other games with my SD card?

And if I update to 4.0, will I be able to hack VC games without the danger of having to downgrade my Wii? (Doing lots of fancy stuff like this to my expensive and beloved Wii makes my brain feel like teeth rubbing on a dinner plate, since I am generally poor.)

Again, sorry for asking anything that was already asked... I just need special explaining at times.
Title: Re: 4.0/4.1 update
Post by: Link on August 30, 2009, 01:36:59 PM
Quote from: WiiKirby on August 30, 2009, 12:25:12 PM
Um, I am ADHD, so I need all the explanations to my questions in one neat little post if ever possible. I apologize for my lack of patience. ^^;

I have only softmodded it. The only things I have are HBC and two Gecko OS's and savestate loader/unloaders. If I update my Wii, will I still be able to hack Animal crossing, and use codes for that and other games with my SD card?

And if I update to 4.0, will I be able to hack VC games without the danger of having to downgrade my Wii? (Doing lots of fancy stuff like this to my expensive and beloved Wii makes my brain feel like teeth rubbing on a dinner plate, since I am generally poor.)

Again, sorry for asking anything that was already asked... I just need special explaining at times.

If your Wii is virgin other than HBC.. then updating to 4.1 will not top HBC and Gecko OS from working (Hacking Animal Crossing will work) however, hacking channels will only work if you use a custom IOS!
Title: Re: 4.0/4.1 update
Post by: WiiKirby on August 30, 2009, 02:49:02 PM
1.) Aww, rightious!!!

2.) Is a custom IOS downloaded or is it a hardware chip? If it's downloaded, I would love to do so. Because I keep fearing my memories of the Gameshark Pro would be just memories. If not, will there be a soft way to do so? If I have to wait until the right stuff is achieved first, I will. But will it be possible?


Edit: I looked around the internet and it seems the IOS is handled like an actual ROM is as far as legality. What I want to know is though, is that what KINDS of custom IOS are there? Is there one specific one just for old games hacking?
Title: Re: 4.0/4.1 update
Post by: Codyk on September 14, 2009, 11:54:24 AM
@ssbbdude found this maybe it could help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KEJl5JwBmg&feature=related check the description

Post Merge: September 14, 2009, 08:12:32 PM

i used winiakos firmware updater it says i have 2.2u now instead of 4.0 lol